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David Cameron Cannot Help Playing to the Anti-EU Gallery

Posted: 10/07/2012 13:50

Francois Hollande comes to London today. He meets the Queen as a fellow head of state and the prime minister as fellow chief of government. On France's Europe 1 radio news programme this morning the presenter announced that the French president would be meeting "James" Cameron in Downing Street. Britain's prime minister may be flattered to be confused with the Hollywood film director but it shows little impact or interest the current British leader has across the Channel.

Hollande likes Britain. He was one of the few French socialists who did not look down his nose at Tony Blair's New Labour government. As leader of the French socialist party he ruefully acknowledged that Blair was better at one thing than the French left and that was winning elections.

Cameron by contrast seems to specialise in vaguely Francophobe gaffes. He snubbed Hollande when the French socialist came to London in February. It is hard to know what, if any advice, Cameron gets on European political affairs as he seems out of touch and out of his depth, in a manner not seen since John Major, in dealing with continental politics. Then after Hollande announced some tax hikes on the Bob Diamonds and Philip Greens of France, Cameron announced he would roll out the 'red carpet' for French citizens fleeing socialist France.

It is childish politics unworthy of a British prime minister but Cameron cannot help playing to the anti-EU gallery in his own party and the British press. It is all the more foolish as London, France's sixth biggest city in terms of French residents, has just sent a socialist deputy to the National Assembly. Axelle Lemaire beat off her conservative challenger to win election for one of the new constituencies created for French citizens living outside of France. Hollande called her up at the weekend to ask for advice on his London visit but who on earth is advising Cameron as he goes out of the way to look small and cheap in the eyes of Paris?

Hollande simply shrugs his shoulders. He is an experienced politician who has seen all the twists and turns in UK-French relations. He recalls the high points like the cooperation between Margaret Thatcher and Francois Mitterrand in shaping the Single European Act, the biggest transfer of sovereignty to shared EU institutions like the Council of Ministers, the Commission and the European Parliament. Or the low points when President Chirac scuppered Tony Blair's hopes of getting UN blessing for the ouster of Saddam Hussein.

But France and Britain have permanent interests. Both are UN Security Council permanent members, see themselves as global diplomatic players, share some military procurement work, and despite different approaches to austerity and fiscal responses to the economic crisis both want and need growth in Europe. Hollande, a natural conciliator will not seek a row and find nice words for Britain and roll out the tapis rouge for the hundreds of thousands of Brits who live and work in France and the millions who holiday there. The visit coincides however with William Hague launching today a Tory anti-EU report demanding the dismantling of current Treaty obligations.

Cameron has hinted at a veto of efforts to shape a eurozone response to the current crisis unless he gets a unilateral Tory British re-write of existing Treaties. Last week he gave the green light to a referendum on Britain's future with Europe. Hollande will not seek today to make polemical points on this growing Tory language about a British future separate from Europe. But in Paris and Berlin and Brussels the belief is sinking roots that Britain may on the way out.

Will Cameron make clear the opposite is the case, or will he agree with William Hague's dictum that between the Tory Party and Europe, the present government will always opt for the former?

 

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Moderation in somethings
17:32 on 11/07/2012
If the average voter is not prepared to consider the options for and against the EU then it would be farcical to offer them a referendum on that question. Much better to leave it to those who will consider the issues involved and vote accordingly.
Unfortunately I don't know how to recognise these paragons, and I don't know how we would empower them to vote in our stead: we gave that privilege to our useless MPs.
Perhaps it would be better if we tried harder to interest the people in the issues, then gave them the vote after all!
00:19 on 11/07/2012
The problem in the UK is that the pro EU voices are never heard - if in fact there are any. We seem unable to have a reasoned debate about the real advantages/disadvantages of EU membership, mainly because the media (or at least that large part of it dominated by the right wing) seems to spout nothing but populist rhetoric on the subject of the EU. I can only hope that if we are to have a referendum, both sides of the debate will be put fully and fairly. I want to know the real facts, not some Sum journalists populist take!
07:12 on 11/07/2012
Agreed. The govt would have to regulate it and monitor it. I also think that there should be a clear majority in favour before any action is taken. If it's 51% one way and 49% the other then this will never be solved. There should be at least a 60% turnout and at least 60% of them should vote to leave, otherwise no change. We have to stop this bickering and if we come out, well we have to put the flags out and get on with it. However I could not accept a wafer-thin majority, it would have to be a real consensus. The antis think they will walk it, that's why they want it, so let's see.
17:59 on 11/07/2012
The pro-EU voices are heard. The Guardian reading BBC is their station quite clearly. Having a referendum would put the arguments for and against to the fore.
23:39 on 10/07/2012
Anti EU = Pro democracy, pro human rights, pro jobs, anti racist, anti extemism, anti corruption.

Being Anti Eu is clearly a good thing.
22:49 on 10/07/2012
"Cannot help but play to the anti EU lobby" ? , if this is the prevailling view of the electorate then we may have here a case of a politician actually doing the job he's paid to do..................................
.............................no dont blink , this is a very rare event .............
17:59 on 10/07/2012
Why is a UK referendum about the EU is considered so taboo by Labour? its called democracy, let the people decide, its long, long over due.
15:56 on 10/07/2012
I'm pro-EU and I want a referendum asap.
15:53 on 10/07/2012
How can Cameron be Francophobe by snubbing Hollande when he was supporting Sarkozy and volunteered to campaign for him (if asked). Sounds pretty Francophile to me. Or do Right wing French not count as French to MacShane ?

As for a French presenter confusing Cameron's first name. Apart from it probably being a slip-of-the-tongue surely it just shows the insular, ignorant Little France mindset of the French media. Again MacShane would be first to complain if a British presenter got Hollande's name wrong.
15:14 on 10/07/2012
Playing to the anti-EU Gallery? It's a pretty big gallery now. Cameron may place party above country, but luckily for him the majority of the country support moves to leave the EU. Paris, Berlin and Brussels are clearly getting the message, if a little slowly, that replacing our smaller nation states with one massive nation state is not popular in the UK, nor, as the polls show, in many other northern European countries.

The fact that Cameron feels bound to respond, just a little, to the wishes of the people is dangerously close to democracy.
14:17 on 10/07/2012
As a member of the anti-EU brigade, I can tell you that he is not playing at all to the Anti-EU lobby. His dilly-dallying does nothing to instill confidence that the people of the UK will get their say on #SelfDetermination. In my humble opinion, the most Pro-EU party is the Lib Dems with both Tory & Labour level pegging just slightly behind them.

We need an In/Out Referendum on the EU soon. It is the very least the people of the UK deserve.
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15:54 on 10/07/2012
Excuse me if I say nonsense. We have a system of decracy and it doesn't lurch from referendum to referndum, only intended by trivial inconsequential parties to embarrass government at the behest of Anglo phones like Murdoch.

What you do is get withdrawal from Europe into you favoured parties manifesto. When they get into govt., and with the support you aver that's a certainty, they then enact the appropriate white paper and, after full discussion, bring forward legislation. What we don't do is have a two bit drunken argument down the pub, fuelled by lies and deceit printed round the abdomen of a nasty piece of work and then ask the wrong question, get the wrong answer and serve democracy not one jot.

You want out of the EU, super, your right to make such argument. But beware, the referendum clowns seek not to achieve your goals but distract your attention.
17:56 on 11/07/2012
Wow, name-calling. I respect your right to a different opinion. I may not agree with you but name-calling just because I disagreed with you.... no, I wouldn't do that.

The argument for a referendum is democracy, or lack of democracy as it is as the minute. Not lies. Clearly visible to all on the EU website, DirectGov et al.
16:01 on 10/07/2012
I am pro-EU and I agree with you. A referendum asap. But what if the result were very close, say 51% one way versus 49% the other way? Don't say it couldn't happen. Would both sides be willing to accept the verdict and get on with whatever the result was? I doubt it: I think we'd need more than a simple majority to put an end to this bickering once and for all.
17:57 on 11/07/2012
Well as a supporter of democracy, I do see what you are saying. It could end up that way but the question would have been answered.