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Hunt's Abortion Statements Are About Politics, Not Medicine

Posted: 06/10/2012 13:30

It is worth contemplating why senior Tory politicians are queuing up to attack women's reproductive rights. First there was equalities minister Maria Miller, then Secretary of State for Health Jeremy Hunt, now Home Secretary Theresa May.

Their opinions on the time limits for abortions obviously have no basis in medical fact. The people best placed to know whether there is any scientific case for lowering time limits are doctors, specifically doctors that specialise in women and childbirth. But their representative body, the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, has dismissed the need for lowering time limits out of hand. They argue that there is little sustainable evidence that the survival rates for babies born under 24 weeks have improved in any meaningful way. So there is no medical basis for what these Tories are saying.

We can also dismiss any notion that the Tory politicians, wading into the debate about abortion time limits, are concerned about the life chances of the unborn children. If the Coalition really cared about the life chances of children, unborn or otherwise, they would not be pursuing their current economic policies and welfare cuts. Whether it is cuts in support for breast feeding or slashing the Sure Start program, Coalition policy will make the lives of women and children that much harder.

The timing is the clue. Miller, Hunt, May et al have all chosen to talk about women's reproductive rights on the eve of Tory Party conference. This is about politics not medicine. These statements are a deliberate attempt to appeal to that wing of the Tory right which is obsessed with rolling back women's rights over their own bodies.

Those Tory right wingers like the idea of lowering time limits, because they believe it will bring down the number of abortions. Anti-abortion dogmatists know they can't win a straight fight on a woman's right to choose. So they are choosing to constrain women's rights by a "salami slicing" approach. Whether it is insisting on extra counselling for women seeking abortion (women already get counselling as a matter of course) or bringing down time limits, the idea is to gradually circumscribe women's rights. The Tory Christian right in parliament is persistent and well funded.

They represent a voting bloc that no ambitious Tory minister can afford to ignore. It will not have escaped Jeremy Hunt's attention that by appealing to his own right-wing on an issue like abortion, it buttresses his still shaky position. Despite Cameron's gesture of faith in him by making him health secretary at all, Hunt still needs all the friends he can get. Who knows what Leveson may bring. Hunt must realise that he cannot, in practise, bring the time limit down to 12 weeks. But he must calculate that it all creates pressure to bring down time limits at least as far as 20. He must also know the kudos it will bring him in right wing Tory circles by being seen to lead that fight.

Women's reproductive rights present a range of issues that need to be dealt with calmly, objectively and on the basis of the available medical evidence. Instead leading Tories are jumping into the debate on the basis of their own subjective views. The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists (RCOG) has called the Health Secretary's intervention 'insulting to women'. It is more than that.

Leading Tory politicians are intervening in a difficult issue, with no regard for medical opinion, for the crudest of political motives. Britain does not need a toxic American-style politicised debate on abortion with politicians trying to outdo each other in appeals to the religious right. Women deserve better. "

 

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It is worth contemplating why senior Tory politicians are queuing up to attack women's reproductive rights. First there was equalities minister Maria Miller, then Secretary of State for Health Jeremy ...
It is worth contemplating why senior Tory politicians are queuing up to attack women's reproductive rights. First there was equalities minister Maria Miller, then Secretary of State for Health Jeremy ...
 
 
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rabidrightwatch
Green lefty & active environmentalist
01:25 PM on 10/08/2012
Ms. Abbott has every right to respond to an outrageous 'opinion'... we are talking about Jeremy Hunt here, remember; he's the recently appointed Health Minister and any 'opinion' emanating from a Health Minister persupposes knowledge and in-depth consideration - unfortunately it doesn't...

I share Ms. Abbott's outrage and see this 'opinion' as the first stumbling step to introduce the rabid neoconagenda favoured by the likes of Hunt; the gradual erosion of womens' rights.

And Mr. Hunt should also realised that simply restricting the timescale doesn't make abortion go away; it merely transfers it to the backstreets from where it was effectively rescued by the enlightened AoP in 1967..

Before that time, women faced with this situation for whatever reason, had stark choices; either have an unwanted child she couldn't support, self-abort or go to a backstreet abortionist instead... not very good choices, are they..??

I'm a thinking man and support unreservedly a woman's right to chose what happens to and with her body - women with or without their partners should decide whatever course of action they deem to be correct for their individual circumstances, with our support and with authorised medical procedures available.

Anything else condems women and their existing families to no choice at all...

Well said and good luck, Ms. Abbott
08:20 AM on 10/08/2012
Diane Abbott does anyone care what she has to say about anything?
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MelRoy
I think, therefore...here I am
04:33 PM on 10/07/2012
Actually, if you look at the NHS Choice site, they recommend if you are having an abortion it be "before 12 weeks".

What have you, Diane Abbott, done to address the number of repeat abortions in this country, or do you not see some very serious problem with 21 year olds already having had 5 abortions? Or sex-selective abortions which are becoming more and more common? Or that 98% of all abortions are purely a matter of choice, and not of need (health of the mother, birth defects, rape or incest)? In addition, we have the highest number of teen mothers in Europe, with children as young as 13 giving birth and 37 year old grandmothers. We have so much child abuse and neglect and so many little ones in care who still receive visits from their mothers who say, "I am not mentally equipped to deal with 'it'", and very often this boils down to drug and/or alcohol abuse or not wanting to upset the latest boyfriend.

There is something terribly, terribly wrong. This is not a political issue, it is a societal issue, and one which must be addressed by us women. No politics or political correctness - this is about children (born and unborn) being treated as burdens or meal tickets (sometimes both) and women disrespecting themselves and allowing men to disrespect them and their children.
01:54 PM on 10/07/2012
Abortion should only be allowed for medical reasons (those that would affect the mother or the child), and in cases of rape! If women want to take control of the reproductive rights, there are plenty of contraceptive devices available, abortion should not be one of them!
04:35 PM on 10/07/2012
That's your opinion, why should it become law? Right now if a person doesn't want to use abortion as birth control no-one is forcing them.
05:18 PM on 10/09/2012
Regrettably I don't understand your reply to my comment! My stance is not against abortion per se, but against it being used as a means of birth control! The time limits should be set by the medical profession!
01:20 PM on 10/07/2012
I'm horrified by the comments of Hunt and others; I think it's staggering that with no scientific reason they can just wave their hands and come out with this stuff. What is it with Jeremy Hunt? Does he have 9x9 lives or something? He should already be completely discredited given what came out at Leverson and plainly is a loose cannon.

OTOH there's more than a sniff of hypocrisy here as Abbott makes of it just what she accuses the others of making -- political capital. Her own party would be in just as bad or worse financial straits as the coalition and making just as many cuts. Thank goodness someone will stand up for women's rights and common sense, but don't pretend labour is any better than other parties.
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Ben Wilson
What's the story mourning Tories?
11:34 AM on 10/07/2012
Trying not to be rude but, oh Diane, you're all about the politics yourself. While sounding above it, you have you're own niche within the partisan bickering over abortion. Reducing everything Hunt or the Tories say about abortion to a cheap political move, is a cheap political move its self! I have no doubt the Tories have an agenda at play, however there is so much missing from this debate, such as abortion statistics, which from what I've heard from nurses say all that is needed to be said on the matter. It's my understanding the stats show that not many women have abortions passed 12 weeks anyway and the majority that do, do so based on serious medical issues. Then I, like many others, personally know babies that have survived premature births at 21 and 22 weeks. So it seems to me there is good cause for a mature discussion the nature of abortion and if the limit should be adjusted. I would like to know, because I credit past governments had good reasons for legislating in the manner that they did and yet vital points that can be explained very quickly always seem to go AWOL in the media.
11:10 AM on 10/07/2012
As there is no scientific reason to shorten the period when abortions are permitted, the only reason to suggest that the period should be shortened seems to be prejudice. Prejudice against those whose religious beliefs allow abortion.
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Ben Wilson
What's the story mourning Tories?
11:41 AM on 10/07/2012
Im not anti abortion, but what abou the fact premature babies are surviving at 20/21/22 weeks? Yes it is of course with intense medical support, but should abortions be allowed at this stage without a serious medical reason?
01:21 PM on 10/07/2012
If you don't want to get an abortion at any stage, don't get one. Don't legislate against others who hold a different view.
01:52 PM on 10/07/2012
Some do survive, but with significant mental and physical impairment.
To some, that is just cruelty.
03:35 PM on 10/07/2012
There's no evidence that Jeremy Hunt's view is influenced by religion. Diane Abbott says it is but he says it's not. We should not criticise Christians for something they have not done just because Dianne Abbott thinks they have. Many people in the US would like to bring religion into this debate but we in the UK do not do so. The issue of religion is spurious and has no bearing in this debate.
07:55 AM on 10/07/2012
In my humble opinion, 24 weeks even though medically unviable to survive, we are talking about a tiny human life, I am not anti abortion at all, I am a female, and I am not politically orientated. I am though against late stage abortion for anything other than medical reasons. Theres lots of people banging on about the rights of womens reproduction- I don't think lowering the timing of abortion from 24 weeks has got anything to do with this and in my view is over politicalising something.
07:19 AM on 10/07/2012
Thank you Diane Abbott.
Jeremy Hunt should stay out of subjects he knows nothing about, like abortion,health, culture, business etc and leave it to people who know what they're talking about.
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casual agent
Advocate for social justice
04:16 AM on 10/07/2012
Jeremy *unt should have been aborted at conception'..Come to think about it'..That would go for the rest of these Poxy Tory MP's also!
12:46 PM on 10/07/2012
What a pathetic thing to say. Such vitriolic-personal attacks negate anything that you say. Can no-one hold an alternative opinion to yours without you insulting them?? Obviously not
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casual agent
Advocate for social justice
05:15 PM on 10/07/2012
daviduk'..Well'..Mitchell' doesn't seem to think it matters calling ordinary citizens "F***** Plebs" though eh?...or does that negate anything he says from now on?..Not to mention that that Toff-Boy *unt'.being given a job as "Health Minister"?...Thats the sickest joke'..When he should have been sacked anyway eh?..Pathetic Comment!!
03:32 AM on 10/07/2012
The religious right is an American term. Christianity in the UK is not polarised according to political party like it is in the US and there is no link in parliament between right-wing conservatives and fundamentalist Christians. We should not try to create a group that doesn't exist.
12:48 PM on 10/07/2012
That is absolutely right. Irrespective of differing views people should not cloud the waters by creating something that simply doesn't exist/apply in the UK
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inapickle
01:29 AM on 10/07/2012
I'm from the States and can't help but urge you not to let this sort of politicking over health matters ruin you too. Our laws are a mess. I've known two California women who had to carry dead fetuses to term because of laws against late stage abortion. It's sick and cruel.
12:54 PM on 10/07/2012
Can you clarify this please. If the BABIES were already dead in the womb- a miscarriage- then it wouldn't be defined as abortion.
02:35 PM on 10/07/2012
if the fetus is dead in the UK your labour is induced in order to birth the stillborn in the late stages of pregnancy, different countries have different ways of dealing with these cases due to differing abortion laws.
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inapickle
02:51 PM on 10/07/2012
And yet it is. Until the fetus 'naturally' miscarries or causes sepsis in the mother, she has to carry it. If the woman doesn't go into labor eventually (both women I know did around their due date), I suppose they can induce, just as though it was a normal pregnancy. 
States are trying to pass more of these laws- Georgia is the most recent Mississippi tried to get voters behind a law that made some birth control and all abortions, including to save the life of the mother, illegal. A couple more states are making women prove that they did nothing to cause a miscarriage or face jail time. There are a good few women sitting in jail right now awaiting their trials on the accusation of having used drugs or alcohol during a pregnancy that ended in miscarriage. 
11:32 PM on 10/06/2012
Diane Abbott is plain EVIL. Jeremy Hunt has expressed a personal view and she has turned it into politics and then accuses him. there are many out there who believe that killing a human is wrong. Diane Abbot is not one of these people. Nor does she believe that people are entitled to an opinion if it differs from her own.
07:49 PM on 10/06/2012
Why did Cameron promote this fool? He had form over the Murdoch/ BSkyeB bid. I know Cameron slapped him down, but their balls-up's are a daily event now. Still If your not a Tory supporter, It Is good fun watching them Implode.
07:36 PM on 10/06/2012
It would be sad to see matters of women's health and reproduction turning into a matter of party politics in UK. In my memory, it has been a topic for free votes, so that David Steel could vote his conscience without political pressure from his party. The use of this issue as a political touchstone has ruined American political politics at the national level, and also cooperation over social problems at a local level.

One does not think of the Conservatives as notably prayerful, let alone being still adherents to a particular religious viewpoint, although there are clearly a few MPs in all parties who have a considered religious position on this matter, just as there are others who view this as a matter of human rights. Both positions are worthy of respect, but politicizing the issue is deplorable.

Can this really be an anti-choice stance, rather than a pro-life position? Either way, where is it coming from?

What will be next? Party whips on sexuality and the death penalty? Such a development would destroy rational political debate on a host of other issues, and serve the interests of politicians of none of the parties, whose consciences would be overruled.