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Tax: The Missing Ingredient From the Liberal Democrat Conference Agenda

Posted: 29/08/11 01:00 BST

There are many weighty issues on the agenda for the Liberal Democrat autumn conference in Birmingham, as well as some potentially significant debates over the party's medium term strategy and policy outlook. There is also, however, a curious omission: tax.

The word tax is not completely absent from the agenda, but aside from a reference in one motion calling for the party to look at its tax policy as part of a big policy review, there is nothing about what the country's overall tax system should look like.

Yet even a cursory following of political news will notice how often the question of changes to the UK's tax system come up. The big risk for the Liberal Democrats is that a relatively modest pace of policy development following that one brief reference on the agenda leaves the party caught flat-footed as events overtake it.

The risk flows from a simple coalition calculation: Conservatives by and large want to cut taxes and Liberal Democrats by and large want to increase taxes on wealth. There is therefore scope for a package which appeals to both wings of the coalition whilst also having whatever net fiscal effect that George Osborne and Danny Alexander agree is necessary.

That is just what happened last summer, when raising capital gains tax - normally an anathema to most Conservatives - was packaged up with increasing the income tax allowance to produce a bundle that everyone was willing to support.

The idea of a similar repeat package is already finding favour in Conservative Party ranks, such as in the recent op-ed for The Guardian penned by ConservativeHome's Tim Mongtomerie: " We should be increasing taxes on wealth and pollution in order to afford cuts in taxes on families and employers".

However, amongst Liberal Democrats the question of what wealth taxes to support is deeply controversial. There is no simple consensus in the way there was over capital gains tax.

Some are very keen on a land value tax, but it is a concept that is often ridiculed by others in the party (perhaps unfairly, though it has to be said that some of the land value tax campaigners do little to rebut the view that it is an eccentric policy). Vince Cable's talk of a mansion tax before the last general election was not helped by a rushed and bungled consultation within the party, but even a perfectly paced and conducted consultation would not have avoided opposition - especially from those in the party who prefer more bands on council tax to any sort of mansion tax, whether it is on their values or on profits from their sale.

Thinking on tax is clearly going on in some sections of the party, as witnessed by not only the regular appearances of stories that "Vince Cable is considering..." but also from the sequence of written questions tabled by David Laws (note the emphasis on how to raise money by restricting pension tax breaks for the richest).

If decisions are made on tax for the next budget, however, it is very likely that this autumn's party conference will become a missed opportunity to debate, agree and produce party unity on a subject that has so often been a matter of debate amongst Liberal Democrats (let alone those of differing political persuasions) in the past.

 
 
 

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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Skeptical Patriot
11:16 PM on 08/30/2011
The liberal democrats want to roll back the Bush tax policy to fix the deficit. Oh wait, they really don't want to back. They just want to tax the wealthy and forego the incremental 2.7T of taxes of a decade that the full tax roll back would produce. Liberals want to tax income and capital as a punishment rather than a policy. There is already a new 4.7% tax on income over 250K in the Obama health law that starts in 2013. So another tax of 5% would increase ordinary income from 35% to 44.7% within one year. These taxes would have virtually no effect on the super wealthy (they don't generate much ordinary income and the they can defer capital gains) but would impact the up and coming well do workers.

What the liberals are not proposing include:
- Asset tax- tax 3-5% of asset over $100M - this would generate far more and only affect those of real wealth not the small business person
- Means test SS and means test Medicare - this is essentially an asset test of the two biggest government entitlement programs
- implement a VAT tax while reducing corporate taxes
- implement a high inheritance tax and keep income and capital gains low - this would prevent multi-generational wealth from accumulating.
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Mike Beckett
LibDem Cllr & Director of Caring for Business Ltd
03:51 AM on 08/31/2011
Are you confusing American politics with UK politics, this post is about our side of the pond for your information.
07:31 PM on 08/29/2011
Hi Mark, thanks for reply. How about the fact that the Banks trading floor have just made a grab and smash on most peoples pension funds. Forced the price down then bought in low.If this kind of activity was taxed at only .05% it would bring in billions. Better still stop it completly with new regulations.
06:46 PM on 08/29/2011
If the Lib/Dem's want to raise taxes why did they not join coalition with Lab? There are plenty of ways to raise taxes but D.C. won't let them. Why not nationalise the Banks we own half of them anyway. Why not have a tax on incomes above £50K,sliding scale,2% starting. Why not ask super-rich to follow France with Emergency Contribution. D.C. won't let them.
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Dr Mark Pack
Co-Editor, Lib Dem Voice / Head of Digital, MHP
06:53 PM on 08/29/2011
How about the tax rises that have already taken place - such as on capital gains tax and on pension contributions from the richest? Given Cameron agreed to those (albeit through gritted teeth!) why do you think he's go an absolute veto on future tax decisions?
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Blockem1
When will our politicians start putting policies
08:51 PM on 09/04/2011
Tiny amounts compared to the closing down of tax loopholes and as for the Switzerland deal , you are giving them all 2 years to get their money out and move it else where.
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Blockem1
When will our politicians start putting policies
12:11 PM on 08/29/2011
Tactical Mike , you are having a laugh .... its bizarre is it not,when british companies such as Boots or Barclays, Vodaphone and many more engineer their tax affairs avoiding billions in UK tax and no one from a party bankrupt of ideas is willing to say anything about it . The quickest way to get tax rates down is to collect what is due and stop allowing rich individuals and corporations walking out the door and not paying ........we are talking hear about billions and billions , given that we control half of these offshore centers world wide we more than any country in the world should be able to put a stop to it.
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Dr Mark Pack
Co-Editor, Lib Dem Voice / Head of Digital, MHP
06:50 PM on 08/29/2011
I agree that better collection of taxes that are due should happen - though unlike you I guess given your comment that no one is willing to say anything, I've heard Liberal Democrat ministers talk about this plenty of times. Out of curiosity, where've you looked to come to the conclusion no-one is saying this stuff?

News such as the deal with Switzerland to start taxing money kept in accounts there shows it isn't just words - action is also happening.
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Mike Beckett
LibDem Cllr & Director of Caring for Business Ltd
03:21 AM on 08/29/2011
Fiscal policy is important, spending controls have been the popular topic of choice in the media, the raising of future government revenue has not been adequately addressed. I agree with Mark that taxation policy is an important area where distinctive Liberal Democrat branding of a position will be required as the Coalition matures.

I am unsure if the reason for it not being on the agenda is a tactical one, keeping powder dry. So Liberal Democrats best policies won't be cherry picked by opportunistic opponents? or just a pragmatic one of agreeing a consensus and a way forward on policy areas in a systemic approach with Tax being provisionally planned as a focus for another conference? Or simply the natural organic development of policy is still in a period of idea formation and fermenting the potency of future proposals.
07:01 PM on 08/29/2011
Hi mike, I have just posted three taxes that should have been implemented before now. What are the coalition waiting for? Once again we have pensioners going to jail. An NHS about to be sold down the river.And our brave Police Service being slugged to death.Best thing to do is invite Lab to Join a real coalition not an election smash and grab, which is what DC has done.
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Mike Beckett
LibDem Cllr & Director of Caring for Business Ltd
12:50 AM on 08/30/2011
Hi Robin. As to tax, I agree more needs to be done to reform the mess Labour and a few unfettered bankers left the country.
I agree that the biggest let down of the British people was the lack of both Labour and the Conservatives putting aside tribal differences and working together in coalition, putting our nations people before their own agendas, as the two largest parties this should have been their first choice in national unity.
I am yet to see any evidence that Labour in Westminster are seriously considering sharing the power of Government.