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Breasts - The Latest Psychological Research Finds Women Don't Care What Men Want

Posted: 19/09/2012 00:00

In one of the largest psychological studies ever conducted, an intriguing difference between male and female views on what is attractive has emerged. The study was recently published in the academic journal Aesthetic and Plastic Surgery and was conducted by Lukas Prantl, a cosmetic surgeon and psychologist Martin Grundl from the University of Regensburg in Germany.

Until now, researchers had been found women were very good at anticipating what female body shape men found attractive.

There is a psychological theory that it makes sense for women to correctly estimate what men find desirable, and for men to calculate accurately what women like. This allows both genders to assess their own relative attractiveness with respect to the "competition". Correct estimation permits better "matching".

For example, if you are "premiere league" in the good-looking divisions, psychological theory predicts you will tend to seek and find a prospect in the same club. Gross mis-matching in desirability seems to rarely happen, and this might be because it doesn't promote relationship longevity. A physically gorgeous person is surely likely to be seduced away from a less desirable mate, at some point in the future.

Prantl and Grundl argue that in Western cultures both sexes tend to agree a smaller female waist and relatively lower weight is more appealing. The main difference between men and women on the best female body shape has now been found, by this latest research, to be opinions about the ideal bust size.

Prantl and Grundl quote previous research which found over two decades, models in 'Playboy' magazine, who would be selected for male appreciation, had a much larger breast size in comparison to waist measurement, than models in Vogue, who would be chosen for female admiration.

A similar previous study found Playboy models tended to have the largest bust size while 'fashion' models the smallest. Yet another study cited by Prantl and Grundl, found 'pinup' girls in adult magazines for men in Japan, United States, and Germany sported larger breast sizes relative to waist measurements, than models and display mannequins, who should be designed to appeal to women.

Prantl and Grundl in their experiment used a web-based interface which allowed participants to manipulate the appearance of a woman's photographed figure by adjusting five sizes and shapes including weight, hip width, waist width, bust size and leg length. By clicking on a button, the photograph of the female figure changes its dimensions. Participants adjusted the woman's features until it matched their own beauty ideal.

A total of 34,015 participants - 16,686 men and 17,329 women aged between 15 and 98 years took part - rendering this one of the largest psychological studies ever.

The majority of men and women were found to prefer female figures of medium or low body weight with medium-sized hips and a narrow waist. However, a striking gender difference emerged over breast size, with 40% of men preferring a large bust size, in comparison to only 25% of women.

Prantl and Grundl argue that this difference between men and women is surprising because women theoretically ought to have the same beauty ideal as men. Men and women seeing eye to eye on what is attractive, allows them to judge their own relative desirability levels with respect to other men and women, and so match with the correct prospective mate.

Prantl and Grundl point out a woman with a large-sized bust who considers medium size as more eye-catching, naturally underestimates her own attractiveness to men, and hence 'undervalues' herself. It logically follows she will tend to be settle with a man of lower league desirability, so she is throwing away her advantages in the 'mating market place'.

One theory as to why women believe smaller breast size is more attractive, is that there appears a widespread prejudice that women with larger breasts are less intelligent and competent, and it could be women are keen to avoid this label.

Prantl and Grundl contend various previous studies have found the female curvaceousness ideal amongst women has declined, as more women entered the workforce, put greater store on careers compared to marriage, and pursued further education.

Prantl and Grundl argue that women today favour a more androgynous figure, or smaller breasts, since this might create an impression of career-relevant qualities such as intelligence and competence. Women also seem to not mind being so sexually attractive to men as they become more economically independent.

Another theory is women may prefer a medium-sized bust because they think that they are less likely to be ogled if they don't have big breasts, but a study using eye-tracking software found men spent just as much time looking at medium-sized as large breasts.

Perhaps it's as simple as women are more practical than men - bigger breasts are a challenge when it comes to finding clothing that fits well, or participating in sports and exercise.

Prantl and Grundl's experiment produced another intriguing finding. Only 11% of participants preferred a regular leg length in women, whereas 54% favoured a leg extent that in the case of a body height of 170 cm would correspond to a leg lengthening of 6 cm. This difference corresponds with the height of fashionable high-heeled shoes.

Prantl and Grundl point out that we already know models tend to have very long legs and, second, that high heels, which visually lengthen legs, are widely deployed by women to increase attractiveness. However, a longer leg length in relation to the torso is also associated with various important health outcomes, for instance, reduced risk of coronary heart disease, diabetes resistance, low blood pressure, better cardiovascular profiles, and considerably reduced risk of cancer.

This last result adds fuel to the debate over why we tend to find particular features of a body attractive. Evolutionary Psychology argues that we are driven by an evolutionary imperative to disseminate our genes as much and as widely as possible - so we are attracted to mates who look fit, because fitness on the outside suggests physical resilience and survival value.

By mixing genes with the strongest DNA out there, we give our progeny the best chance of survival.

This theory suggests that when you find yourself drawn to someone, you may think you are the victim of a poetic and mysterious process called falling in lust or love, but in reality, beneath conscious awareness, your genes are busy running cold calculations on who is hot, and who is not.

 
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In one of the largest psychological studies ever conducted, an intriguing difference between male and female views on what is attractive has emerged. The study was recently published in the academic j...
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07:27 PM on 09/24/2012
I see so many overweight or downright obese women with perfectly nice looking men that I think that's what they must like now. Or it could be that it's so prevalent that men don't have much choice if they don't want to be alone.
02:21 PM on 09/23/2012
These last three paragraphs don't make sense, together. If longer legs are associated to a range of health risks, then people are not drawn to body types that are associated with health. It would have been great if you'd pointed out that the scientific findings go against the theory of 'Evolutionary Psychology', which seems to be posited mostly be men in search of excuses for infidelity and sexual violence.
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09:41 PM on 09/23/2012
Many thanks for your comment. Longer legs are not associated with a range of health risks but with a range of health benefits. The article reads - 'a longer leg length in relation to the torso is also associated with various important health outcomes, for instance, reduced risk of coronary heart disease, diabetes resistance, low blood pressure, better cardiovascular profiles, and considerably reduced risk of cancer.' Apologies we could have discussed this in much greater detail but do please bear in mind the Huff Post, perhaps understandably, has a recommended word limit for its blog posts, and this limits our ability to enlarge on our arguments and ideas in one post. Many apologies. I agree that Evolutionary Psychology is too often used as an excuse for us to not engage our higher brains, resist impulses plus make positive choices and take responsibility for our behaviour. However, it persists in coming up with interesting associations, such as leg length and positive health outcomes.
10:05 PM on 09/23/2012
Oops - my mistake. Thank you for responding.
05:38 PM on 09/24/2012
May I suggest that this has not the rigorous requirements demanded of the harder sciences such as physics and chemistry. Unforrtunately, I do not include Social Science and Psychology in this category, and certainly not in my own scientific and associated journalistic experience.

I refer you to my comment in refutatuion of the claims made.
05:22 PM on 09/20/2012
Just because a man can manipulate a graphic to change bust size doesn't mean that he "prefers" bigger breasts. In my work, I've found men are less picky about size and shape and happy to be around any breasts at all. If these researchers are correct, though, it debunks the myth that women get breast implants (or reductions) to attract men. Could it be that women are more interested in how they appear to themselves -- or even other women?
07:51 AM on 09/20/2012
The Temptations got it right in their song "Beauty is only skin deep" It's what inside that matters.
05:44 AM on 09/20/2012
I have done my own study and don't care what women want.lol
11:00 PM on 09/19/2012
you should look at the natural alternative perfect c a great british product to help acheive larger and firmer breasts
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Tigerbob
10:59 PM on 09/19/2012
Attractiveness is subjective and all relative. These studies are pointless. Womens' obsession with being skinny will never end. The media tricks women into thinking men don't like curves and bigger women but most men do.
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10:29 PM on 09/19/2012
huffy....am i that norty....
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10:28 PM on 09/19/2012
sorry...beer goggles....
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10:27 PM on 09/19/2012
glad to know if safe..?...
08:50 PM on 09/19/2012
I do not believe the article at all. Some women are so obsessed with what men think of their breasts that it affects their self-confidence. They moan, oh, he thinks my breasts are too small, or oh, he thinks they are too big. I suppose it is similar to men being anxious about certain extensions from their bodies.

If everybody just be grateful that he / she was made and hopefully, in good health, the word will be a much less superficial place and we would all not seek validation from the opposite sex to the point of being ridiculously paranoid. Life is too precious for such vapidity
08:33 PM on 09/19/2012
The eye-catching headline claim that women are totally dismissive of male interest in bosom size seems to be a journalistic ploy to gain attention to the article. It appears in one of a number of'psychological' theories offered (including comparisons between 'Playboy' and fashion models), and seems to correlate smaller appendages and adrogynous figures to career-seeking images, to the exclusion of male attention

Could be! But eye-tracking techniques raise the credible level of results well beyond those of male magazine and fashion journal studies - even when their sexual content is removed.

My recent involvement with eye-tracking cameras (for the more platonic purpose of improving map reading) left my mind wodering why it was not in better control of its optic centres. Even the interpretation of dreams became more questionable than just shrewd guessing.

Obviously, we can all agree that this newsworthy piece is unconnected to the recent spate of less scientific stories discussing breast-feeding appendages - except that both telescopic and eye-tracking cameras have optic purposes.
07:32 PM on 09/19/2012
My God, I think Jordan is gross. Slim, natural and beatiful, with a kind heart. If I could only fing her.
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Barbara Longstaff
07:19 PM on 09/19/2012
You can have a beautiful women with a lovely body and she can be the most horrid person agoing, so beauty is in the eyes of the beholder - it is what is inside a person that makes them beautiful not false breasts and makeup. You can have two ugle people but to each other they are beautiful because they have something so wonderful inside of them a great personality and kindness that is what counts. Not all women want to look like Jordon.
05:23 PM on 09/19/2012
Why no photos ?