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Let Us Forget...

Posted: 11/11/2012 12:54

There are not many things I dislike about living in London. Of course, the weather could be better sometimes; transport could definitely be improved upon; and an increase in the living wage would help most ordinary Londoners. But the one day of the year I have come to absolutely loathe and despise in over a decade of living in this great city is Remembrance Sunday.

When I first moved here, I was barely conscious of it. I knew it existed; but it seemed to be a much smaller affair, remembered only by a handful of Chelsea pensioners and those members of government who saw it as their duty to attend, much like visiting an elderly relative for whom one had still some semblance of affection. The build-up to it seems to have increased as well; so it is entirely possible to see poppies being sold from early October. Various TV programmes (Lorraine being one of the worst offenders) seem to be a non-stop advertisement for the military or 'OBB' (Our Brave Boys). And to me, and others, the wearing of the poppy has become a fashion statement and not reflective of its true symbolism.

In his excellent article last year entitled "Do those who flaunt the poppy on their lapels know that they mock the war dead?" Robert Fisk contended that the wearing of the poppy has travelled far from its origins, and now has become a symbol of appearing to be patriotic to work colleagues. He also spoke about his father, who had served in the "war to end all wars", who refused, towards the end of his life, to wear the poppy, as he felt it mocked what he and his comrades had been through in the trenches.

I believe that as a so-called civilised society that we should be dismantling the military, and as expediently as we possibly can. We should not be eulogising its exploits, especially when they are of a colonising nature. We have to look at how the military is currently being used e.g. in Iraq and Afghanistan, and really question why 'our boys and girls' are there. The answer will probably be pretty simple: control over energy resources. Is that really why we send good men and women to be killed? So that our governments do not do the negotiating we are paying them (as taxpayers) to do, but instead take the 'easy' route (easy to them, because it is unlikely to be their sons and daughters being sent off as cannon fodder) of military action? There are very few instances in which military action is justifiable; and it must always be a last resort, backed by a legal mandate.

A friend of mine on Facebook was appalled by a post he saw on Peter Tatchell's page, which depicted a Malayan held at gunpoint by a British soldier in some of the anti-colonial wars from 1945 onwards. In truth, it is a shocking picture; but I think a necessary one at this time of year to remember this side of the military as well. As an Irish citizen and as the descendant of a family who was involved in hiding the dissident Roger Casement from the Black and Tans, there are instances in which OBB are not the heroes the media would depict them as being. In more recent times, we only have to look at the cases in Londonderry, Abu Ghraib and Baha Mousa to know that soldiers do not always act with the greatest of humanity or in an honourable way. To whitewash them all with a heroic glow is erroneous and insulting to the victims they have brutalised.

I have come across a few soldiers in my time; and from my experience, they are sober about the realities of war, and the least enthusiastic people about the prospects of waging war that I have met. Of course they are; they have been in the thick of it, and have experienced what it is first hand, and that the pomp and circumstance of military propaganda mean nothing when one is locked in armed combat. An ex-boyfriend of mine was a soldier in the Irish Army, which is traditionally a peace-keeping army. He had, however, served in border control between the Irish Republic and Northern Ireland, and had been to places like Rwanda and Ethiopia. He was from an area of Dublin that used to be known as 'cowboy country' back in the 1990s due to fairly high crime rates, and was from a working class Dublin family. I remember him saying to me that the best day of his life and the worst day of his life was when he entered the army. It was the best day, because at 16 years old he felt he was becoming a man; it was the worst day because at 16 years old he had no idea what he was letting himself in for. Although the Irish Army is not normally involved in the heavy duty combat that let's say, the British Army is, he had seen enough by the end of his tenure to understand the glamour of the uniform did not match the reality of being a trained killer.

So on this Remembrance Sunday, I will be remembering: Peace must always be the objective. War must always be a last and uncommon resort, rather than a first and usual one. We must discourage young men and women, from backgrounds with limited opportunity, that enlisting is an easy option; their lives are worth more to society alive than dead. While it is wonderful that some soldiers turned their injuries into Paralympic gold this summer, this is a choice that no young man or woman should ever be faced with. If I had children, I would actively forbid them from going into the army; I do not see it as a glorious career, which has a 50:50 chance of their remains coming back in a box. It is not uncommon nowadays for 'wars' to be fabricated on the basis of control of oil pipelines: we have to ask ourselves - what price oil? And if that oil costs even one life, civilian or military, that is too high a price to pay, and we, in our privilege, must ask: how can we live differently, and force that question on our politicians. I look forward to a day where we have little need for a military, and that all we remember at this time of year is to give peace a chance.

 

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There are not many things I dislike about living in London. Of course, the weather could be better sometimes; transport could definitely be improved upon; and an increase in the living wage would help...
There are not many things I dislike about living in London. Of course, the weather could be better sometimes; transport could definitely be improved upon; and an increase in the living wage would help...
 
 
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09:33 AM on 11/13/2012
Disgusting and vile woman, you have free speech and liberty because men and women who loved their country fought for it. Go back to to Ireland if you dont like it here
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randolphbitler
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07:33 PM on 11/12/2012
Loathe and despise..In 1916 my great uncle was killed on the Last day of the battle of the Somme..he died together with over 300,000 other Tommies in the 5 month battle......He joined up as he saw his duty to defend Britain against the Germanic horde....I remember him every November!!!
My son is a serving soldier..he has served in Afghanistan, he tells me he wants to stop the Taliban et al shooting little girls in the head when going to school...
Your comments are over simplified for a complex set of issues and values.....but please dont dismiss my Nation, the British for wanting to remember our fallen
11:07 AM on 11/12/2012
I give money to the poppy sellers but I have never worn the poppy since 1967 in a quiet protest for their chosen poem "They shall not grow old as we who are left ..." Yuck!
If they had chosen Wilfred Owen's "What passing bells for these who died as cattle ..." it would be different.
10:30 PM on 11/12/2012
Do you realise that you have misquoted? It should read, "They shall grow not old"; rather than, “They shall not grow old". The difference of changing the word order is subtle, but shifts the meaning back on to the grief and waning of the survivors, who are condemned to age, slowly diminished with the knowledge of the loss of their lovers and friends. The war dead, whom they knew not just as an abstract or just a name, remain forever young, staring back ageless from a sepia photograph, within an archetype that includes, among others: Alexander the Great, Rupert Brooke, James Dean and Marilyn Monroe.
01:00 AM on 11/12/2012
As a British citizen do you bear responsibility for every past evil committed by the British Empire? Do the German people bear responsibility for Nazi Germany? Of course not. Therein lies the flaw in your argument. Men and women laid down their lives for this country and for the freedom you enjoy. By all means object with the politics behind the decisions that put them in harms way. However by using phrases such as "loathe and despise" in respect of a ceremony to honour their memory you display an appalling lack of respect for your fellow citizens especially for families of the fallen. You should be ashamed of yourself.
01:03 AM on 11/12/2012
Whoops, you are not a British citizen but I think my point regarding British Citizens is still valid.
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Paul Wagland
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08:57 PM on 11/11/2012
Personally, I agree that we should be aiming for demilitarisation. What is the purpose of our armed forces? Who threatens us, or our way of life?

The military budget of the UK is the fourth highest in the world, behind only the USA, Russia and China. Yet we are an island nation surrounded by advanced, stable and peaceful allies. All the money we pour into the army, navy and air force is purely to exert unfair influence on other resource-rich nations. We should be paying a fair price for our lifestyles, and allowing the desperately poor people in the rest of the world to benefit.
08:17 PM on 11/11/2012
The politics behind Remembrance day usually don't take into account the human side of war: soldiers are human beings, capable of mistakes like all of us but unfortunately much more publicised than ours. Whilst i do not condone wars, I appreciate much of what i have today happened at some point because of a war. And in some cases people died as a result. Whether they're heroes or devils it's up to each one of us, but it is kind to appreciate that whilst we debate reasons and strategies, these soldiers have parents and sometimes kids and partners. And many of them feel the Poppy helps. Who am I to say how a human being grieves? My point is you can be a pacifist and still honour the dead, and even think of them as brave, because they chose a job which involves serious danger every single day - and how many times have we used the word "heroic" to describe victims of terrorism who just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time? Maybe they led lives of cruelty too, we don't know but we still mourned them.
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04:58 PM on 11/11/2012
Irish? Even the IRA had enough sense to stay away from rememberance Sunday! No doubt you will reflect on your action and comment and retract?.....Please!
04:46 AM on 11/12/2012
except they didn't and bombed Enniskillen 25 years ago to the day.
04:53 PM on 11/11/2012
Jesus said" The meek will inherit the earth, but they'll need an armed serice to protect it/them".

Why do we keep allowing these silly people a platform for their sensationalised drivel? If it's under the banner of free speech, then why is it most of them speek against the normal flow of society?
Having accepted she is Irish, it is still stretching our tollerance somewhat, to digest her views. Rather than get annoyed I simply feel a sadness for her and her inner feelings!
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04:17 PM on 11/11/2012
your an idealist and thats fine :except when your faced with an army hostile to your ideals like free
speech and democracy.
you see a strongly worded article does not stop a panzer division or the swarms of tanks the soviet union and warsaw pact deployed during eastern europes years of tyranny....

The sad fact is few societies prosper for long without an army to protect them..........
defence through strentgh has been the safest option since the second world war........

So today i will REMEMBER THE FALLEN.............

I WILL THANK THEM .......................

AND YOU REMEMBER WITHOUT ALL THOSE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN........

you'd probably be speaking GERMAN............................

LEST WE FORGET
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02:29 PM on 11/22/2012
I totally agree, all my 4 boys have served in the armed forces two are still in, one of them has recently come back from his 3rd tour of duty in Afghanistan and the other one goes next year, the 2 who are no longer in the forces served time in Afghanistan too, sadly one of my precious son's is no longer with us. I will always wear my poppy with pride and remember the men who have died keeping us safe from the enemies and be grateful that our boys and girls are willing to put their lives on the line for us
04:09 PM on 11/11/2012
"loathe and despise." you are a disgrace !
04:54 PM on 11/11/2012
Couldn't agree more, but lets not air her sillyness by commenting!
07:09 PM on 11/11/2012
it's much more than silliness
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Paul Wagland
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08:52 PM on 11/11/2012
Not much to offer in the way of counter argument, have you?
10:11 PM on 11/11/2012
not to you. i have read your nonsensical ramblings before !
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04:01 PM on 11/11/2012
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It's Remembrance Fortnight now. BBC staff wear poppies for two weeks and the first day they are on, the war movies hit the screens. It has nothing to do with glorying war or boosting national esteem. It's all about VIEWING FIGURES and programming on the cheap. Manipulate the nation to watch same old pap again and again.

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]Your comment about London is disingenuous. Any person speaking on that subject with honesty will say that London is overcrowded. It is the number one problem.

But that is too risky for a peacenik to say, eh? Politically correct friends might get worried....
11:12 PM on 11/12/2012
in reply to your comments,no 1 your completely correct it has NOTHING to do with rememberance of our fallen personel, no2 again your correct !! & its not by indiginous Brits either !!