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Losing Our Marbles: Should Britain Return the Elgin Marbles to Greece?

Posted: 4/04/2012 00:00

The unwritten rules of decorum state it is impolite to discuss sex, politics or religion at dinner parties. I would like to add one more topic to that list - cultural repatriation. As discursive stink-bombs go it's not often a headline act, but there are few controversies more likely to invoke a full-on food fight during the middle of the cheese course than the concept of returning archaeological heritage to various peoples around the globe. Now, just months from the Olympics, the campaign is being stepped up once more for the return of the Elgin Marbles to the Greek nation, and another messy argument seems inevitable.

First thing's first, why are they the Elgin Marbles? Well, here lies our first trip hazard - we do not refer to them as the Parthenon Marbles (the building they were intended for) or the Phidian Marbles (the sculptor who crafted them), but instead they have taken the name of the aristocrat who nabbed them from Greece. As far as I am aware, lumps of rock are unaffected by Stockholm Syndrome, so it's not the Marbles themselves who are identifying with their kidnapper. No, it's the British people who have dubbed them Elgin's Marbles, in gratitude for the Lord's generosity in selling them, at a reduced price, to the nation in 1816. So, already Britain has committed an act of appropriation through nominative rebranding. The name implies they were Elgin's to sell in the first place.

This is a complex issue, more complex than a Game of Thrones boxset that has been accidentally translated into Kurdish. Lord Elgin was Britain's ambassador at the time, but not to Greece. Instead, he was diplomatically engaged with the Ottoman Sultanate which had ruled Greece since the 15th century and was therefore in charge of its heritage. The Sultan was grateful for British support against Napoleon Bonaparte, allowing Elgin to secure a highly dubious (and still contested) legal writ permitting him to remove the sculptural treasures from the famous Parthenon, which sits proudly atop the Acropolis in Athens. His initial idea had been to simply take drawings and plaster-casts, but the British government had responded with all the enthusiasm of a dead badger. After learning that local peasants had been chiselling off these marble masterpieces and burning them to make quicklime, Elgin decided he would ship them instead to a place of safety. In his mind, that could only be the British Museum. True to his word, he refused to sell them to private bidders (or to Napoleon) and sold them at a loss to the BM.

This was a controversial act, even in Regency Britain. Elgin did not receive universal acclaim for his forward-thinking rescue mission. Lord Byron, who would soon-after die abroad while supporting Greek independence, found it to be an act of tyrannical vandalism, and did what any furious politician would do... he wrote some poetry about it. Somewhat ironically, Elgin's Marbles - which were 2000 years old and beautifully carved panelled reliefs by one of history's greatest ever sculptors, Phidias - were dismissed by some art critics as worthless, because they were mucky and partially damaged. Apparently, ancient art had to be anatomically correct if it was to be worth keeping. However, despite the kerfuffle on two fronts, the marbles were adopted into the British Museum's collection and have stayed there ever since.

Scroll forward to 2012, and the Olympics are almost in town. Once again, the bandwagon for repatriation has been rolled out, though this time it will have to pay the London congestion charge first. This week, Stephen Fry has joined many others in calling for the full repatriation of the Marbles to Athens. It seems an entirely fair request. Since Elgin's visit, Greece has matured as a nation, going from a bankrupted suppressed province to a bankrupted sovereign state... Okay, so it is not exactly in rude health, but the explosive days when the Parthenon was used as an ammunition dump (it blew up in 1687) are long gone. Today, Greece is genuinely passionate about its heritage.

However, there are still some niggling doubts being aired. For one, the Greek financial apocalypse has irradiated much of its heritage budget, and several ancient sites are already under threat from lack of conservation investment. Using an analogy from children's social services, there are those who claim that Greece is an unfit parent and cannot be trusted with such a vulnerable offspring, who has already been blown up once in the past. This argument, to me, seems unfair. Arguably, returning the Marbles to the Parthenon would increase tourism, and provide a fresh influx of cash to pay for their protection. At present, the museum in Greece has a dodgy plaster-cast facsimile. How would we feel if we travelled to Salisbury Plain only to be confronted with Foamhenge, because Stonehenge were in Abu Dhabi for its own protection?

The greater debate, however, is one of precedent. If we return the Elgin Marbles, then suddenly Britain's entire heritage collection becomes fair game. Egyptian antiquities, Renaissance paintings, Roman busts, Indian treasures, Chinese vases - many of the collections in our museums, and most famously the British Museum, were acquired during the height of Empire, when we straddled the globe. China was far from a superpower then - instead it was a victim of western colonial meddling, resulting in two Opium Wars and the Boxer Rebellion. Today, however, China bankrolls the west - if it started asking for stuff back, like an angry girlfriend who realises she has wasted her best years with an idiot, our only defence is a blanket policy of refusing repatriation. Returning the Marbles to Greece would shatter that get-out clause.

But there is a further, more nebulous issue at stake here. What is culture, and can it really be nationally ascribed? Can we really state that every artefact is morally tied to the place in which it was created? Take for instance a Celtic torc - a thick gold necklace worn commonly in the Iron Age - these are objects that spanned geography. The Celts did their thang throughout Europe, from Greece to Ireland. If archaeologists excavate a priceless torc in France, but experts say it was made in Germany, then who gets to keep it? Can Ireland put in a claim for it, under the argument that it is representative of their national heritage? Should it simply tour around Europe forever, like the Rolling Stones?

This is a grey area larger than the smog over China's cities. To take Britain as an example, we are a nation founded on a fusion of Celtic, Germanic, Scandinavian, French, Dutch, and African peoples, to name just a few. Our political system is predicated on Ancient Greek notions of democracy, while our law is influenced by Rome's Twelve Tables. Our religious history shares commonality with the Middle East, and our intellectual heritage owes a great deal to Renaissance Italy. To further confuse things, it was our men and women who founded modern America and Australia, and it was our engineers who designed railroads in India. Under these tortuous conditions, it's easier to convert Sarah Palin to communism than it is to neatly identify Britishness.

In fact, perhaps we shouldn't even want to, as it's a dangerous game claiming archaeological heritage for nationalist reasons. Though I usually hate the tired analogy of 'Hitlerism', we should always be mindful of the ways in which Gustav Kossina and Carl Schuchhardt used archaeological theories to justify fascist ideology in Germany. Their interpretation of Nordic/Aryan culture in surrounding countries was used by Hitler to justify his policy of lebensraum land-grabbing, under the pretext that Germania had once been far larger, and he was simply restoring the natural order of things. You can get into all sorts of trouble trying to marry up historical culture with contemporary political identity.

This is not to say the Greeks are fascists! Fear not, I don't plan on turning into Rush Limbaugh and embarking on a deranged rant. Personally, I would like to see the Elgin Marbles loaned back to Athens for a trial period, so they can at least be briefly seen in their natural setting. My reasons are relatively simple. Nearly 3,000 years ago, Greece invented the Olympics as a mono-cultural religious festival of athleticism - only Greeks could partake back then, yet here we are today about to celebrate the Olympiad in London. The Olympics have become universal heritage, originating in Greece but shared by the world. I do not see how the Elgin Marbles can be excluded from a similar position, and for one nation to steadfastly refuse to share them is naughty. Yes, it's true that tourists can come and view them for free in London, but not everyone can afford such a trip.

The Olympic Games travels the world, arriving in distant cities and bringing its ideals and history to faraway doorsteps. It inspires in places where inspiration may previously have been lacking, and it unifies millions of strangers who appear to share nothing in common. Similarly, the Elgin Marbles are some of the finest ancient treasures in the world, and reveal the origins of several artistic traditions. They too possess an inspirational quality, and a pan-global legacy. It would be rather wonderful if, just like the Olympics, they could travel to the people, not the other way around.

Perhaps Mick Jagger wouldn't mind taking them with him, on his next tour?

 

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The unwritten rules of decorum state it is impolite to discuss sex, politics or religion at dinner parties. I would like to add one more topic to that list - cultural repatriation. As discursive stink...
The unwritten rules of decorum state it is impolite to discuss sex, politics or religion at dinner parties. I would like to add one more topic to that list - cultural repatriation. As discursive stink...
 
 
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03:29 PM on 04/24/2012
http://www.parthenonuk.com/articles/melina.pdf in 1986.
05:58 PM on 04/10/2012
It would be wonderful if the British Museum would return the Parthenon Marbles at the summer Olympics this year. (They missed the boat; they should have been returned for the 2004Olympics in Athens!!) With the magnificent,new Acropolis Museum already open, and an empty exhibit space waiting for the return of the Marbles, the argument that they wouldn't be cared for is moot. When I visited in 2010, I almost cried to see the empty, waiting space. The Marbles are exhibited in the British Museum in an "open" setting. The last time I visited, the only guard was talking to a visitor while children were touching the sculptures. Receptions have been held in the area, with plastic glasses placed by visitors on the Marbles. And of course, there is the famous "cleaning" fiasco.

With HRH Queen Elizabeth's 60th Jubilee around the corner and the Summer London Olympics,
the ultimate public relations opportunity awaits. "Bring them back!" Unfortunately, I will not be holding my breath.
04:03 PM on 04/10/2012
Greece has been petitioning and has sent ambassadors to Britain for years. They were told that the country could not protect the marbles due to lack of a sufficient museum, yet in 2009 the world class, state of the art Museum of Athens was built. Your article is not only replete with historical inaccuracies, it is based on fear and exaggeration that suddenly other countries will come calling for their ancient artifacts. Why not focus on the possibility that you are obstructing justice and denying a valid request? Greece has specifically and consistently asked England for the return of these pieces of national antiquity. Anything short of a complete reparation is common thievery.
03:36 PM on 04/20/2012
please sign the petition if you are in agreement with the return of the marbles: http://www.bringthemback.org/
thank you.
04:01 PM on 04/10/2012
The Parthenon marbles belong on the Parthenon because that is where they were intended to be by the people who created them. THAT is where they are supposed to be viewed, not some damp hallway in the British Museum. The rest is empty rationalisation.
jhNY
Mercy.
06:34 PM on 04/04/2012
Simple! The UK should just pay the Greeks what the marbles are worth today in euros.
04:52 PM on 04/04/2012
No, they are fine where they are.
04:33 PM on 04/04/2012
I am English but I think we should return the 'Elgin' Marbles to the Greek nation. Ok, so at the time it was maybe essential that Lord Elgin rescue them and bring them back to England and by doing so they have been very well preserved but I think it is now time to return them to their rightful owners, the Greek people. Wouldn't we feel the same if another nation shipped Stonehenge to their country, I think we would naturally want the stones back. I am confident that the Greek nation would take great care of them and treat them like their national treasure, which they rightfully are, and it would be a gesture of good will on the British governments part to hand back what is rightfully not ours. I am pleased that Stephen Fry shares my opinion and I would sign any declaration that supports the return of them to Greece.
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02:14 PM on 04/04/2012
"Should Britain Return The Elgin Marbles To Greece?"
Wouldn’t the poetic play be, to partake in a game of marbles for them?

"it is impolite to discuss sex"
Before, during, after or instead off?

"return of the Elgin Marbles to the Greek nation"
would be a waste of Stobart diesel. Find out which IMF Gauleiter has the strongest death grip, and deliver them straight there.

"This is a complex issue, more complex than "
that outcrop off Argentina.

"sold them at a loss to the BM"
Who were themselves later sold to BA. Much to the chagrin of one Vestal Virgin.

"Stephen Fry has joined many others in"
raising books, to a realm of credibility far exceeding their true station.

"Greece is an unfit parent"
Then send these offspring back, but on an exchange visit basis.

"Foamhenge"
Turns out druids have been worshiping the remains of a multi-storey cartpark.

"Returning the Marbles"
If we can’t share nicely, someone may take those marbles away.

"the Rolling Stones"
are safe. Each has a Made in Britain tattoo.

"simply restoring the natural order"
So, the UK does belong to the Neanderthal (BNP).

"Greece invented the Olympics"
with just the one race.

"his next tour"
Rocks, all over the World.
12:55 PM on 04/04/2012
'Global heritage' is a wonderful argument to roll out when British schoolchildren can walk into the British museum for free, while Greek schoolchildren have to fly across the continent. The Greek state preserves numerous other antiquities without any problems so that argument seems both extremely arrogant and completely baseless. Even the historical damage mentioned in this article in the 17th century is inaccurate. The damage was caused during a battle between Venetian and Ottoman forces, not by Greeks. Contrast that with the Greek war of independence in the 19th Century during which Greek troops besieging the Acropolis offered to send Ottoman forces bullets if they would desist from destroying the monuments so that they could melt down the lead clamps holding them up. I don't think that giving back the marbles would cause a global repatriation stampede, but even if it did, why shouldn't the state of origin claim ownership even if the items are abroad on indefinite loan? There are problems relating to cultural 'ownership' as a concept but arguing as you do is easy when you're British - you've taken everything and never had anything taken by others.

As a Greek, I don't really mind that you have the marbles. What infuriates me is that the British affinity for classical Greece makes you feel that you deserve them as of right, as cultural successors and protectors. Keep them! Just be open about what you're doing - cultural looting and state-sanctioned thievery - because you want them and you
01:50 PM on 04/04/2012
Good points and I don't really disagree. I was never blaming the Greeks - if you read the article again, you'll see I have stated Greece was under occupation when the explosion happened, so they were not the instigators. Furthermore, I'm half-French and wildly pro-Europe - I don't want to belong to a society that hoards treasures and I am not terribly impressed by the British Museum's stance on this. That said, I think you have to acknowledge the complexity of this situation - there is a lot at stake here, for everyone involved. Thanks for your comment! Greg
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09:29 PM on 04/04/2012
"What infuriates me is that the British affinity for classical Greece makes you feel that you deserve them as of right, as cultural successors and protectors"...Oh dear!!...shan't post the comment that I usually do on this subject then.....
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10:43 AM on 04/04/2012
The people of Britain should gift them back to Greece. Then, they should return all of the Egyptian artifacts. Oh, the French paintings....back to France. If it comes from somewhere else...and that includes people. Send the Indian population back, then the Middle Easterners....how about those Anglophile Americans....send back...and the Eastern block immigrants. Birds from other places...plants....oh, this is exhausting.
04:37 PM on 04/10/2012
not only exhausting it is also irrelevant..... all these people want to be in the UK ...birds and pants....too :) (how lovely!!!!) . They chose to live there... Have the marbles also flown or walked to the UK by themselves??????? Certainly it is more chic to own a parthenon sculpture than an immigrant employee who unfortunately doesn't want to go home.......
09:49 AM on 04/04/2012
I had heard that as a result of the current Greek economy, the Greek government had already contact the British Museum asking how much they would offer for the rest of the Parthenon.
09:46 AM on 04/04/2012
The marbles belong to Greece and should be returned to Greece. @ Noggingthenog and GingerlyColors - don't your remember the damage done to the marbles by the 'expert cleaning' they got in the British Museum???? Get off your 'we're better than they are' soapbox! The Acropolis museum is the perfect place for the marbles to be showcased and they will take more care of the marbles than the British museum does.
09:34 AM on 04/04/2012
The Elgin Marbles should go back to Greece!
09:19 AM on 04/04/2012
...and the remaining Parthenon marbles left in the hands of the Greeks have been turned into feta cheese by the Athens air pollution. If only Elgin had been given all of them...
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07:52 AM on 04/04/2012
If we did return the Elgin Marbles to Greece, they will only end up selling them to pay off some of their huge debt! They are safe where they are.