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Fox Hunting - the Countryside's Best-Kept Secret

Posted: 20/10/11 01:00 BST

Nothing seems to make people more heated then discussing the pros and cons of hunting. Fox hunting is alive and kicking around Hay On Wye - at least four hunts span the immediate area - and in fact fox hunting is happening all over the countryside. Most city people I talk to think it is cruel and want it banned. Most country people think the opposite.

Tales of foxes killing entire coops of chickens and geese fuel the fire here in the countryside, meanwhile the townies talk of hounds ripping the throats of family pets in their crazed efforts to hunt down the "poor little fox". Whatever the argument, the sport is certainly not relegated to history and seems to actually be thriving and growing amidst all the ideological conflict.

Last Friday I had my weekly horse riding lesson with my instructor Charlotte in her outdoor school. I had just finished, and was quietly hacking home thinking of shoulder-ins and half passes when I suddenly heard the very thin but beautiful sound of a bugle in the local woodland area below the local common land.

My pony pricked up his ears and started to look about excitedly, and as I began to trot home I came across about 15 hounds, a jumble of vehicles and some men wearing Barbour-type jackets with flat caps and sticks. Very Down to Earth Powell and Pressberger.

The hounds were impressively polite and allowed my pony to walk down the lane unaccosted and I stopped to ask one gentleman what they were doing. "Cubbing", they answered.

Everyone round here knows what that is - rooting out the young foxes and preparing the hounds for the proper hunt. As I had just been in an outdoor riding menage littered with the droppings of over thirty foxes (each with big plumstones in them - they had obviously gorged themselves on Charlotte's plums the day before), I knew as well as the hunters that the area was teeming with foxes.

Nobody says much though. It's an official secret throughout the land - away from Westminster and all the townies - that fox hunting is going strong.

As I left the hounds, the cars and the men, with an invitation to the join the opening meet next month, I passed an elderly gentleman with a pair of binoculars and a walking stick. He stopped me and asked what the noise was. Assuming he was following the hunt I asked him if he had seen the hounds. He looked at me with a strange expression..."but I thought hunting was banned?" he said.

"It is" I replied, and trotted on.

 

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01:34 PM on 11/23/2011
http://www.idausa.org/facts/foxhunting.html

Have a look at this and see what you think about the brave band of hunters
10:14 AM on 10/22/2011
'Why animal rights nuts are inhumane to humans'.

What is wrong with humans acting upon nature as it does itself? Nature is necessarily cruel and if we can derive sport or anything else from it then so what?

Many hunters have far more respect and appreciation for nature than negative commenters here and treat it accordingly - hunters in its element, farmers squeeze more than it would ever give and scientist types rack up the process.

It's kind of what we do and it affords people freedom from its domination and the time to think and comment.
12:00 PM on 10/31/2011
You have a point here look at how we treat nature - how much of the negative impact is due to country sports - very little. In fact those involved in it do a lot for conservation.
09:54 AM on 11/23/2011
Ha ha ha you could argue that monsters like Hitler did a lot to keep down the numbers of humans, therefore did the planet a service.
10:23 AM on 11/23/2011
Nature kills for food not sport. Nature would also be a lot less cruel if you lot would all just disappear from the planet
10:02 PM on 10/21/2011
Go Kate - one article from you and David Cameron reaffirms his commitment to a vote to repeal the ban. Whether we can win a vote or not this time round, at least it will underline how mainstream and substantial support for hunting remains.

We will get there.
10:57 AM on 11/23/2011
Support for hunting isn't mainstream, that is what the pro-hunting would have you believe. Indoctrinate everyone into thinking they are in the minority so nobody will bother to vote against it. Come on, be partisan about this. We can and we will defeat any vote that is in favour of restoring this sadistic sport. Here is the HUNTING HOTLINE 01483524250 it puts you through to The League Against Cruel Sports. who will take your reports of people breaking the law seriously
12:33 PM on 10/21/2011
It would be nearly as easy as reporting people who speed or people who use their mobile phones when driving, because we all do that!!!
10:30 PM on 10/20/2011
Kate - I hope you go along to a Meet and have a great day out. It makes such a refreshing change to read something matter of fact about a quite typical encounter in the countryside, where as you so rightly say hunting is still thriving and not hurting anyone. I just can't reconcile the ban and how the antis have portrayed us with my own experience of hunting and the countryside. Whilst I appreciate some people don't like the fact that foxes have to be controlled or may be squeamish about the death of any animal, I don't understand how this was built into a case for outlawing hunting. Not when every serious study has found it to be the most humane and effective way of maintaining and controlling a healthy fox population. The fact of the matter is that people do not like sport being made around this pest control, no matter how tangentially (most people see very little of the hunt itself from the field). To me the Ban represents a kind of 30s prohibition: Labour sought to legislate how the countryside should behave. Well lots of us in the countryside aren't buying into that, and have fingers firmly crossed that the ban will be overturned by a government at last facing up to the unitended consequences of the health and safety brigade, political correctness lobby and suburban moralists who've done so much damage to the UK.
08:47 PM on 10/20/2011
Many people who live in the country like I do in Somerset are against fox hunting and deeply resent the idea that the hunting fraternity speak on behalf of us.
08:33 PM on 10/20/2011
The Rule of Law was the main justification for the Dale Farm eviction this week. It's a strong argument but is weakened by the activities described in this little gem of complacency. It's not ok for fox-hunting to continue while observers turn a blind eye, it's wrong whatever you think of fox-hunting. We cannot allow a situation where the privileged ignore laws they don't like while the powerless are forced to comply. The authorities should be alerted.

And I'm another country person born and bred who has never supported blood sports.
06:41 PM on 10/20/2011
Whoever you are, Kate, musician, you should report this to the police. Fox hunting is illegal activity. We need people like yourself to assist in getting it enforced.
10:51 AM on 11/23/2011
Yes Kate You need to report this. Why should they be allowed to flaunt the fact that they break the law and are proud to be doing so Here is the HUNTING HOTLINE 01483524250 it puts you through to The League Against Cruel Sports. who will take your complaint seriously
04:58 PM on 10/20/2011
Kate, I suggest you do your public duty and report what you saw, and what the man said, to West Mercia Police. Their number is 0300 333 3000.

ps lived in the countryside all my life apart from 3 years when I was studying Zoology. Foxes regulate how many young they give birth to, depending on resources available, reabsorbing young before birth that they would not be able to feed.
04:41 PM on 10/20/2011
Why didn't you report an illegal activity?
01:06 PM on 10/20/2011
It's cruel and people who do it overlook this or try to rationalise it because they enjoy it.
If a group of kids on BMX's came up our street blowing vuvuzelas, encouraging their pack of baying pit bulls to chase a domestic dog that they'd found minding it's own business in a front garden, with a view to ripping it up if they caught it, people would talk about "sick" and "feral" and "out of control" youth.

But when it's a load of grownups on horses it's supposed to be OK ?

I don't care about "traditions". The slave trade was a "tradition" for quite a while.
But we've moved on.

And it's not a country vs town thing either.
Or a rich vs poor thing.

It's about some one actually enjoying something that is blatantly cruel.
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11:33 AM on 10/20/2011
Eh. I don't live in the country and don't have to deal with foxes as a significant pest (besides occasionally driving over their flattened remains on dual carriageways) but I can't help but wonder if the city backlash against fox hunting hasn't got more to do with our distaste at "simply country folk" for enjoying something so... uncivilised.
11:06 AM on 11/23/2011
Oh please. Speak for yourself only
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Thismortalcoil
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11:28 AM on 10/20/2011
It's inaccurate to suggest that country people are pro fox hunting but townies are against it. The majority of people in the UK are against fox hunting, no matter where they live.

Foxes are just as common in towns as they are in the country and there are plenty of urban chicken keepers. Having kept chickens for many years I know that foxes will only kill them if the owners have been daft enough to fail to make the coops fox proof. And the majority of chickens in the country are still being raised in battery farms, so foxes are hardly a threat.

Fox hunting is not pest control, it's not quaint and it's not legal for very good reasons.
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Paul Wagland
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10:36 AM on 10/20/2011
Interesting article. I'm very sad to see fox hunting still going on, especially when all the evidence suggests it is ineffective at reducing fox numbers. It's an entertainment, a sport, but it's not pest control. Even if it was it would be inefficient (compared to lamping for example) and pointlessly cruel. The bottom line is that some people enjoy the hunt, they don't like being told what to do and they'll make up excuses to justify their actions.

I guess the question presented by the article is how are the authorities going to respond to this (illegal) resurgence? I'd like to see warnings given, then if necessary arrests made.
12:01 PM on 10/31/2011
To be honest I would say it increases fox numbers and also fox health. This is because hunting promotes the creation of fox habitat and also tends to kill sickening foxes.