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Veterans Deserve Better

Posted: 08/11/2012 00:00

For almost one hundred years Remembrance Sunday has offered an opportunity to reflect upon the horrors that people everywhere have suffered as a result of war. In Wales, the reminders of the realities of war can be found in all communities. Even the smallest village has a memorial to people whose lives were tragically cut short in during the fierce fighting of the First World War and Second World War.

The horrors of war are not just confined to the history books and the stories of older generations. In recent years, Welsh soldiers fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq have also experienced those horrors. They have seen friends and comrades killed and maimed in battle. They have experienced being away from loved ones and of not seeing their children growing up. And the horrors need not leave visible scars and visible wounds either. Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) can be the lifelong result of horrific war experiences and it can be as debilitating as any physical disability. The same applies to other co-morbid conditions such as TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury), depression and anxiety-related disorders.

Wales has over a quarter of a million armed forces veterans - a disproportionate number of our population compared to the other nations of the UK - and cases of PTSD are rising and will continue to rise. Over the past decade many will have seen active service in Iraq and Afghanistan. Rest periods between tours have become shorter and the increase in stress and pressure on servicemen and their families has had a devastating effect. We know that veterans are facing difficulties in re-adjusting to civilian life and are more likely to face homelessness, mental health problems, substance misuse, and in some cases may end up the criminal justice system. The National Association of Probation Officers (Napo) produced figures in 2009 that suggested that one in ten prisoners once served in the armed forces. These figures, Napo said, were up by almost a third in five years.

It should be a given that a country looks after those who fought for it in a war. However the treatment of our veterans shows that often doesn't happen. Soldiers tell us they feel abandoned once they are discharged; forced into the bureaucratic minefield of a benefits system, work capability tests that fail to treat PTSD as a disability, and into a health and social care system that fails to provide adequate treatment and support. Instead of ensuring good care for soldiers post discharge, the Ministry of Defence (MOD) is content to leave the care of veterans in the hands of charities - often small charities run by dedicated volunteers. More than two years ago I called on the first minister to make representations to the MOD, asking them to fulfil their obligations to armed service veterans in Wales by providing "the full psychological and practical support that they need."

Healing the Wounds is an example of one such charity. Largely operating in the valleys and area around Bridgend, it provides counselling and support to veterans suffering PTSD. However it has struggled for funds throughout its existence, with volunteers raising funds all over Wales to ensure their work could carry on. There are other small charities like this throughout Wales, operating on a shoestring. Far more help and support could be provided to these charities and the PTSD support groups like the one I visited in the Rhondda earlier this year. I will be paying a visit to the treatment centre operated by Healing the Wounds in Porthcawl this Friday. I will be speaking to veterans affected by PTSD and listening to what they want. The Party of Wales has already made a good start. In Westminster Elfyn Llwyd MP started a campaign to improve the treatment of veterans, which led to the MOD accepting the recommendations of an all-party group he chaired. Only this week, Elfyn also gave evidence to the Welsh Affairs Select Committee investigation on veterans in Wales.

We need to do far more in identifying problems earlier such as ensuring mandatory mental health assessments as part of the discharge process and funding specialist support workers for veterans. They deserve better than relying on volunteers shaking buckets in Cardiff Airport at 5am.

 

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07:13 AM on 11/13/2012
This country doesn't look after service men, the disabled, and soon the pensioners will be targeted. If it's not on the box it can't be happening that's the attitude of the british public. We don't demand enough of ourselves or or government, we allow politicians to fly all over the world making speeches about how wonderful our care services are. And back home their buddies are dismantling them to give their other buddies a tax rebate. We are a disgrace to those you have mentioned.
12:28 PM on 11/09/2012
with the PM's resent trip to the middle east the first thing that crossed my mind was that the Servicemen and Women he visited on his way back - where probably the next in line for the chop - it just seems that whereever he turns up another group of service personel will be heading for job centres

I their is a covenat between the Government and our Armed Services then the PM must be Judged more like the Grim Reaper than an ally - for he is far more responsible for the destruction and the taking of peoples lives than our Armed Services put together

may the dead rest in peace and may the rest of us never forget those who are still living whole or part who put their lives on the line to keep us safe - support the Services personel - if we don't who will Our Government (Scoffs out load)
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10:12 AM on 11/09/2012
i think as an ex royal engineer that all the servicemen and women who are injured or killed should have thereselves or families be paid full wages till there tour was supposed to end, and after that be given a decent pension the rest of there life ,they shouldnt have to fight to live comfortamle they have allready fought so other peole can live comfortable and fought wars that are piontless and shouldnt have been sent to them
09:44 AM on 11/09/2012
There is a sense in which it's good to have charities supporting our war veterans. They are non-political so the issue of war veterans is less likely to be used for political advantage. If it were just left to the government then people could well disengage, taking the view that they pay their taxes and that matter is taken care of. Notwithstanding that, the record of governments and the MoD with regard to war veterans has been appalling. After WWI the 'land fit for heroes' left returning soldiers without jobs, without money, without support and without dignity - and the aftermath of WW2 wasn't much better. Support systems may be better now, but not a lot. Governments take the Forces for granted - despatch them into war arenas inadequately armed, virtually ignore them when they return and then, like the present government, cut the defence budget as if to say, 'Thanks a lot, but we don't need you anymore and, what's more, all that talk about our highly trained, professional armed forces is a load of tosh - we can make do perfectly adequately with a few part-timers.' (No disrespect to the TA intended, of course). I think if I were a serving soldier who had seen comrades killed and mained in Iraq and Afghanistan I'd be feeling angry and thoroughly fed up. Of course, in that respect, they will be feeling pretty much like the rest of us - except the millionaires!
09:29 AM on 11/09/2012
Conscription ended in 1960, so ALL current military personnel are volunteers, no one forces them to enlist.
As volunteers, they know in advance what their duties will be, also during training they have a period where they can opt out free of charge, if they change their mind.
If they continue, then they cant expect to change the rules afterwards and ask for special treatment, at completion of service. They also have the option to apply to purchase their discharge at any time.
Therefore the government considers it has every right to ignore them at the end of their service.
northern git
fed up with all the political crap in life
08:33 AM on 11/09/2012
Our servicemen and veterans have never been treated well.

Why do so many who are prepared to die for thei country have to fight when a better scenario would be

to put the leaders of countries in conflict into an arena and not let out till they have settled their differences
09:46 PM on 11/08/2012
This country has never done enough for its war veterans or their families. After the first world war Ireland provided homes for some of its veterans even though they were serving valiantly in the British army. In England? Next to nothing even though many small communities had witnessed the destruction of a whole generation of young and not so young men. After WWII our personnel came home to no jobs, no homes, no money . During WWII many men and women both military and civilian gave their lives defeating one of the most vile and evil regimes ever to have existed yet still they were ignored once war was over. Service personnel suffering PTS were not catered for. This is improving but still has a long way to go.
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09:39 PM on 11/08/2012
i have told my children not to sign up under any circumstances, only a fool would die for there country. and my grandfather did die in ww2, im sure he would turn in his grave now, look what he fought for. we are run by an eu and over run by imas
northern git
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08:30 AM on 11/09/2012
I think that your advice to your childen was sound and wise.

Today they are sent to fight in countries which are not a threat to British citizens or territory

Today's conflicts are enough to turn veteran of past in their graves as they turn my stomach

May they live long and prosper ( to borrow a fitting phrase) and may you grow to see them grow
02:51 PM on 11/08/2012
unfortutanatley previous goverments have always been quick to lavish praise on the services but just as quick to cut them back when the country does not need them or is facing a finicial crisis.
This country owes a debt to all former service personal even more so to those who have made the ultimate sacrifice unlike most mps who seemto have th attitude of what they can get from country. I also believe that all goverments can learn from other countries about the welfare and long term needs of all service personal now and in the future.
02:13 PM on 11/08/2012
Mr Cameron should try living on my 80% War Disability Pension and middle rate D.L.A.War pensions are pitifully low and I fully expect to lose my D.L.A. in his benefits review even though all my medical problems ans treatments are in my three medical files that are about four inches thick each.I have too many medical problems to even begin to make a start on stating all that is wrong with me and how the effects the different medical conditions have on me and I simply would not be able to tell them all this in the time you have on these boards and I don't think I could physically and mentally cope with it anyway and it is obvious from what people called to these reviews,many very disabled say,that the objective is to declare them"Fit for work" and remove their benefit.I am sat here now wearing gloves,a jumper and a coat because on my War Disability Pension,I can only afford to heat one room for a few hours a day.Gas and electricity has just gone up by 10% from December,my War Disability Pension goes up by 2% FROM APRIL 2013 and if gas and electricity prices rise by 10% or more each year,as they probably will,then in a few years time I will not be able to afford to heat my house AT ALL and when I lose my D.L.A. then it will be awful for me.
02:13 PM on 11/08/2012
I am an ex serviceman from the british army.
I suffered from CPTSD , and Severe PTSD throughout my life and army career.
I now run a self help group in Oldham , Greater Manchester. I facilitate the group and have funded it from my own pocket . I take ex forces and civillians , and carers in to help them .
I am a volunteer who doesn't get paid too.
Contact me on ptsduk@hotmail.co.uk or Facebook ptsduk.
Donna Meness
www.findmaisyandshannon.com
01:22 PM on 11/08/2012
Lieutenant COLONEL COLIN W. MARMO, Phd (Nisnawa) Coast Tsimshian, December 29, 1941 - January 18, 2009

never wavered in the love of his country and people loved him for it.

A fierce Canadian patriot and brilliant scholar, Lieutenant Colonel Marmo dedicated his life, from the age of eighteen in the service of his country, first in the Armed Forces for over thirty years, in which he became a leader as regards Canada's National security. After retiring from the military in 1990 after twenty-six years of oyal service, he moved full-time into national (homeland) security working with the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA).

He spoke five languages and was one of the first during the Cold War years to be able to speak fluent Russian. His language facility brought him to the attention of the federal government and set him on the road to military and national security fame. His actions, decisions, policies, and sheer brilliance are legendary in the higher echelons of this country earning him fiercely loyal friends. LCol. Marmo, also studied for more than two years during his graduate studies years at Carleton University under the tutelage of former Canadian Prime Minister, Lester B. Pearson.



On January 23, 2009, at his military funeral, the Canadian flag flew at half mast as Lieutenant Colonel Colin William Marmo was laid to rest in the beautiful and historic Beechwood Cemetery, National Military Section in Ottawa, ON."
Donna Meness
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04:10 PM on 11/08/2012
What an amazing man he was,..............
Donna Meness
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04:35 PM on 11/08/2012
yes, one of many indigenous people that joined the military..
 
including Jim Eagle & his father  ( whom I volunteered for 5 yr.s while he was the EX.Dir. of Odawa Friendship Centre in Ottawa Canada)
 
Alot of our elders came out of the army -  in layman terms - lost the " right" to go home as per the Indian Act -  looked around the nearest city  & saw no agencies or community centres for us to use...so they developed FRIENDSHIP CENTRES ..that exist today with capped funding vs. immigration settlement the Harper Gov't has thrown gobs of $ at...
 
 
 
http://www.shannonthunderbird.com/
 
his sister..
Donna Meness
www.findmaisyandshannon.com
01:17 PM on 11/08/2012
Remembering one of the most decorated soldiers of all time.

Corporal Francis Pegahmagabow
Awarded the MILITARY MEDAL WITH 2 BARS.
Legendary Sniper of the First World War.
An Ojibway from Wasauksing First Nation,

&

Remembering Sergeant Thomas George Prince.
Legendary Reconnaissance Expert.
Served with the Royal Canadian Engineers.
Paratrooper with the First Special Service Force (The Devil's Brigade!)
2nd. Battalion the Princess Patricia Canadian Light Infantry.
Served in the Second World War and Korea.
Awarded 10 war medals.
A Saulteaux Cree of the Broken Head First Nation.



Remembering the contributions of Aboriginal people towards Canada's war efforts.

Including:

Some 12,000 Soldiers who have served in all conflicts,. from World War One, right up until now in Afghanistan. Many of these women and men were renowned for their skills as snipers and scouts.

Reserve Land taken as Defence Posts, Airports and Rifle Ranges or kept for waterfront vacations.

During the First and Second World Wars, Aboriginal families donated $67,000 to Relief Agencies, such as the Red Cross.

Some of the sacrifices made by Indigenous people in Canada....

Sacrifices made for Canada, even while Canada denied them the vote.

Sacrifices made for Canada, even while Canada was erasing our cultures in the Residential Schools.

Sacrifices made for Canada, even while Canada refused them the same benefits of Non-Native Vets, upon their homecoming.

We remember...
Donna Meness
www.findmaisyandshannon.com
01:13 PM on 11/08/2012
Across the pond...

Canadian Aboriginal Veterans have reason to be proud of their wartime contributions. More than 7,000 Natives served in the First and Second World Wars and the Korean War, and an unknown number of Inuit, Métis and non-status Indians also participated. One Aboriginal Veterans group estimates that 12,000 Natives served in the three wars.

On each occasion, Canada's Native soldiers overcame cultural challenges and made impressive sacrifices and contributions to help the nation in its efforts to restore world peace. It was an incredible response - consistent with a remarkable tradition.

The brave native men and women who left their homes during the Second World War to contribute to the struggle for peace were true heroes. The extra challenges they had to face and overcome when they came home makes their achievements all the more notable.


Contact the NAVA at:

c/o Claude Petit, 32 Moore Place, Saskatoon, SK S7L 3Z2

Tel: (306) 384-0565 Fax: (306) 382 -6587

http://www.aboriginalveterans.com/Links.html

Shannon Thunderbird, M.A.

WE WILL NEVER FORGET
I will be presiding at a Sunrise Ceremony in honour of Remembrance Day on Friday, November 9, 2012 at Bala Community School, 6 Bala Avenue, Toronto, ON. 7.00 a.m.


http://shannonthunderbird.com/

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1212344--this-school-makes-me-proud-of-who-i-am
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12:32 PM on 11/08/2012
All these little charity's, why? surly the poppy funds should cover all help needed. Where does all the money go that the poppy fund raises? What % of money collected goes to the needy? Just wondering thats all.
11:02 PM on 11/08/2012
cynic they pay the people who make the poppies. I believe the British Foreign Legion also help ex-servicemen who are injured, mentally and physically.