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Why Not Use Bank Fines to Alleviate Poverty?

Posted: 04/01/2013 00:00

Homelessness and food poverty were points of major debate in the run-up to Christmas; perhaps more than ever this time around.

While the office parties and last minute shopping were going on around them, there was a visible increase in the number of people of all ages sleeping rough and looking for warmth and shelter.

In just one year there has been a 27% increase in Wales in the numbers of those reporting themselves homeless to their local authorities, while the Cardiff food bank alone distributed 2.5 tonnes of food in one week leading up to Christmas. They also claimed to be feeding 70% more people than this time last year.

These increases have come about because of the loss of safety nets in our welfare system that used to protect those at the bottom of the pile, such as a lack of suitable housing and inability to pay rents in the private sector.

The situation is only going to worsen with council tax benefit and welfare benefit changes hitting more families this spring. Some experts estimate that only 20% of the cuts have so far taken place, with the most significant changes yet to come.

The cumulative effect of removing support services - whether financial or otherwise - from the same groups of people who are already in most need could lead to a 'perfect storm' situation as central government cuts the welfare bill and local government cut their services - forcing people onto the streets for the greater goal of reducing the deficit, like some kind of Kafka-esque dystopia which sadly is not made up.

That is what makes the case of UBS' recent £160m fine by the Financial Services Authority (FSA) so galling. It was, effectively, a large slap on the wrist. Barclays, a more household name and a high street bank, copped the brunt of public anger over its attempts to rig the inter-bank LIBOR rating, as we imagined their champagne swilling smugness. But UBS paid out hard cash to deliberately cheat the system.

The punishment must fit the crime. In the past, fines levied by the FSA upon those they monitor went back into the pot, covering the levies paid by other FSA member organisations. Effectively a bad bank given a fine would subsidise those who were acting within the guidelines. But such an approach assumes that there are no general misdemeanours, no cartel-like behaviour, no responsibility to the outside world.

In the case of LIBOR rate manipulation it is difficult to establish precisely who in the general public won and lost - some people might have had better mortgage rates than otherwise, while others might have had worse. But the principle is clear - these banks were moving the system in their direction, for their benefit.

The £160m from UBS is now going to go to the Treasury where, according to a spokesperson, "fines go into the Government's general exchequer fund to be used according to priorities set out in the last Spending Review in 2010."

But there is one place where that money should be going. It should be going to the homeless charities and the foodbanks who are picking up the pieces from the financial crisis - a crisis caused by the banks and exacerbated by the economic position of the UK's major political parties, who all called for major cuts in the 2010 General Election.

The UK government's rhetoric on the Big Society has gone very quiet recently. But homeless charities, such as the Wallich, and food banks from the Trussell Trust, are among those for whom the Big Society has been a 'success', as the UK government create new 'clients' for them and volunteers help out.

Those organisations need the money to pick up the people whose lives were damaged first of all by the banking crisis and then forced into an even worse situation by swingeing and insensitive government cuts.

Telling us that the deficit is the priority when families are homeless and starving shows a government astonishingly out of touch. It needs to back its early promises, and understand that redistributing money to those that need it from those who don't deserve it (some might even say from perpetrator to victim, in a roundabout way) will demonstrate that this we really are all in this together, and that it isn't redundant, dogmatic ideology that is providing the impetus.

 

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Homelessness and food poverty were points of major debate in the run-up to Christmas; perhaps more than ever this time around. While the office parties and last minute shopping were going on around t...
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02:15 PM on 01/09/2013
This would be a bit too straight forward and helpful to the average person, for the banksters front men to consider seriously.
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09:27 PM on 01/07/2013
banks don't care if they are fined...... they don't pay it .....we do , they just get it back through bank charges and interest rates. start putting the people in charge into prison or life bans from ever being involved within the banking sector.
09:06 PM on 01/07/2013
Why should those that have, give to those who have not. Those who had not, strived to have something. Who gave those who had nothing, no-one. Education is free to all use it, then maybe you will have something.
05:21 PM on 01/07/2013
Fines by law go to the Exchequer and cannot simply be subordinated to one or another charity as the mood prevails. Whom is to say what charity should benefit over another in that case? The Government is democratically elected to govern and there are adequate laws and provisions to ensure nobody in Britain starves to death and is provided with a roof over one's head. It seems that we have come a long way fromthe hardship days of Trussell but the mindset in some individuals seems to remain in the dark ages. This country cannot afford what it does not earn. Perhaps Leanne would be better placed to persuade the Government to divert some of its DfID Aid prgramme to the poor here?
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03:04 PM on 01/07/2013
This will never happen, the fines are used to sue more banks. Notice the bankers running the banks never go to jail for their crimes. Even the fines do not go to the victims but to the Government. The fines are always 1-2% of the profit made by the banks amount stolen or scammed. Fine the Banks real amounts up to 5 times the Profit made and send the guilty to jail and pay back the victims.
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06:05 PM on 01/06/2013
I'm a bit of a broken record on this, but.......

A wealth tax (one off) and higher rates of the top brackets of income tax, would clear the deficit and provide the money for public services and programs.

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/economics/2012/09/20-wealth-tax-mega-rich-would-raise-800bn

Don't expect any of the top parties to suggest it any time soon....
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01:55 PM on 01/05/2013
A few digits on a computer screen are just that, its a money go round that doesn't exist, when georgie boy has another round of QE all we are doing is putting prices up as the value of the note goes down, printing presses do not produce anything of value, the only way of creating real wealth or "money" is to make stuff to sell, as we in the west make very little we have nothing to sell = we're broke.
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03:05 PM on 01/07/2013
Banks are fined and Bankers walk free. Jail the bankers like they jail the poor for stealing
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01:02 PM on 01/05/2013
Why not propose something else that is never going to happen? The fines do not go in the poor box, they never have, and they never will. When was the last time a revolution was started through polite middle-class debate?
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03:06 PM on 01/07/2013
Jail the bankers like in Iceland
04:33 PM on 01/04/2013
Hey Leanne.....
Nice idea but the reason it won't work is that there are to many poor to benefit from the paltry fines leveled against the banks. However 5 Stars for a noteworthy idea.
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04:28 PM on 01/04/2013
Only the individual, not the collective, can alleviate poverty. Most socialist programs create more of what they try to eliminate except on a personal level as helping your next door neighbor !?
03:27 PM on 01/04/2013
Yeah! If we can't get at the working person's savings by raising taxes, let's get at their savings by fining the banks!
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02:35 PM on 01/04/2013
Sorry to say it but I think you've set your expectations of our government's ability to "understand" a little high. Remember, not one of the front benchers in any party has been exposed to poverty; has been threatened with job loss and subsequent repossession, with a family to feed. Joined up in series they wouldn't even make the needle flicker when measuring their experience of BEING. They are children playing with fire, a fire that will burn us all in the end unless, somehow, we can stamp it out. Look at them: Clegg, Cameron, Miliband? You can't expect the wisdom that comes with a full life from them in their sheltered, pampered, protected environments. That tory bloke, Steward, yesterday epitomised the complete failing of intelligence/reasoning power among todays politicians.

I get the feeling that politicians of all hues are currently having fun kicking people while they're down. It's a bad time for employees, labour relations suck; for disabled, for families trying to make ends meet, particularly those who have trapped themselves on the property ladder as first timers. They are stuck. Cameron pretends to be nice - he doesn't understand but wishes he understood enough to sound plausible, because he's the "good cop" reliant on baddies like Steward, Duncan Smith, Theresa May, etc to do the kicking. If our politicians aren't careful they'll be thrusting us back to the 1920s.
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09:27 AM on 01/04/2013
when will you understand that the economic issue the world is facing today is NOT caused by the financial crisis... the financial crisis was the symptom of a much larger issue: the world, especially the US and the UK, were living using credit and credit bubble... the fact that there is less growth now is coming from the fact that this is a period of economic adjustment from an economic level that was unsustainable.

In the UK, government took tax receipts based on volatile finance earning and committed to ordinary expenses based on these extraordinary receipts... when these extraordinary receipts disappear you re faced with ordinary spending you can't afford anymore...

In addition, it's going to the treasury... so in effect it's going to reduce debt and foster economic growth... that's where it should be going. Not to private organizations.
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