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Timbuktu: What It Really Tells Us

Posted: 09/07/2012 00:00

Pamela Geller is not someone you naturally go to for balanced coverage of Islamic issues (she has expressed the view that "Islam is the most antisemitic, genocidal ideology in the world", for example), but in a recent tweet (linking to her blog) on the appalling vandalism to mosques and mausolea in Timbuktu, Mali, Geller excelled even herself: "Mali Muslims destroy holy Timbuktu sites: witnesses: It's the same everywhere that Muslims seek to impose Islam..."

What Geller failed to mention was that the "holy Timbuktu sites" under assault were themselves Islamic sites, thus hardly the victims of "Muslims imposing Islam". In reality, what is happening in Timbuktu is one group within the broad spectrum of Islam violently imposing its blinkered ideology on another tradition in Islam with which it disagrees. The group carrying out the destruction, Ansar al-Din ("Defenders of the Faith"), are Salafist or Wahhabi Muslims, drawing their inspiration, like al-Qaeda, from schools particularly influential in the Arabian Peninsula (though currently showing a worrying capacity to seed themselves elsewhere). The traditions of worship in Timbuktu are Sufi, Islamic mysticism considered idolatrous by fundamentalist groups such as Ansar al-Din.

This shouldn't need to be spelled out or repeated, but 11 years after 9/11 it unfortunately still does: al-Qaeda and other extremist forms of Islamism influenced by the Wahhabi or Salafist schools may claim to represent a pure form of Islam, may even be claimed by Pamela Geller to represent Islam in its purest form, but they have as much right to insist that theirs is the only true Islam as the Quran-burning pastor in Florida is to make that claim of his version of Christianity. One of the scariest things about radical, violent Islamism is its ability to persuade some Muslims and some non-Muslims that it is the authentic face of Islam. Take a look at the Tombouctou Manuscripts Project, investigating the rich scholarly culture of Timbuktu from the thirteenth century onwards, hundreds of years of Islamic life and learning, and that notion will seem as absurd as it deserves to.

An almost automatic reflex when we hear about Timbuktu is to remember Bamiyan in 2001, and the reaction this last week has tended to be, "Oh no, it's Bamiyan all over again." In time we'll hear more about the local factors that influenced events, and then the parallels with what happened a decade ago and 4,000 miles away in Afghanistan will no doubt seem less compelling. But there is some substance to the comparison of Timbuktu and Bamiyan, and while our attention is focused on acts of cultural desecration (not something that can often be said), there are some useful points to be made.

What do Timbuktu and Bamiyan have in common? Well, they're both places with evocative names that we don't know very much about. Historically, they were great medieval trading posts (Timbuktu's speciality was gold), which through their centrality and wealth (both Buddhism and Islam are religions very sympathetic to commerce) turned into centres of religion and scholarship. Something else they share, I'm afraid, is that, in Timbuktu as in Bamiyan, the well-intentioned efforts of the international community may have contributed to the catastrophic turn of events. At Bamiyan the suspicion is that it was precisely the intense international interest in the fate of the Buddhas that encouraged the Taliban's al-Qaeda allies to push for the statues' destruction. As the Afghan expert Olivier Roy has put it, "Al-Qaeda, which has never had roots in social movements, ceases to exist if it isn't on the front pages and on our television screens." Organisations committed to global jihad (and that includes Ansar al-Din and al-Qaeda) actively seek opportunities to outrage and provoke the wider world. International expressions of concern about Timbuktu, culminating in UNESCO declaring Timbuktu a World Heritage Site in Danger on 28 June, may well have brought home to the extremists in Mali how big an impact they could make by doing exactly what the outside world were telling them not to.

But the most important point of similarity between Bamiyan and Timbuktu lies in the nature of the organizations doing the damage. By claiming that their actions represent the only acceptable Islamic way, Ansar al-Din are discounting centuries of Islamic observance in Timbuktu. The Buddhas of Bamiyan were (fairly obviously) Buddhist in origin, but it's rarely appreciated how long the Buddhas of Bamiyan survived under Islam without experiencing any significant damage: about 1,200 years until the Taliban came along. In that time there was apparently no attempt to destroy the Buddhas; on the contrary, the Buddhas became celebrated wonders of the Muslim world.

The local Hazara people of Bamiyan incorporated the Buddhas into their folklore. One marvellous story tells how the Buddhas were sculpted by the survivors emerging from Noah's ark. As the Flood receded, it left the ground still a little damp and malleable, so they took the opportunity to mould the statues in thanks to God for their deliverance. Another Muslim writer, from the twelfth century, explained that the Buddhas were a gift from Allah to mankind, describing how the Buddhas were attuned to nature: pigeons nested in their noses and both Buddhas smiled when the sun rose. "This smile should not be thought strange, for whatever the sun shines on, cheerfulness and joviality appear in it, and that thing inclines towards the sun."

The people of Bamiyan are deeply pious Muslims, albeit Shia and thus (like the Sufi of Timbuktu) heretics in the eyes of Salafists. The Hazara people suffered terribly at the hands of Taliban and al-Qaeda forces largely as a consequence of being Shia. The piety of that 12th Century writer is also as plain as day. The ideologues of Ansar al-Din have not the slightest right to claim precedence for their own narrow interpretation of the faith. But it's equally important for non-Muslims not to confuse extremist caricatures of Islam for the real thing. Ideologues in one camp have a habit of creating ideologues in other camps, and the argument goes on and on and on...

 
 
 

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Pamela Geller is not someone you naturally go to for balanced coverage of Islamic issues (she has expressed the view that "Islam is the most antisemitic, genocidal ideology in the world", for example)...
Pamela Geller is not someone you naturally go to for balanced coverage of Islamic issues (she has expressed the view that "Islam is the most antisemitic, genocidal ideology in the world", for example)...
 
 
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02:30 AM on 07/29/2012
George Orwell - "Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them."
08:16 PM on 07/10/2012
Egyptian muslims planning to destroy pyramids: http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/07/raymond-ibrahim-calls-to-destroy-egypts-great-pyramids-begin.html
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02:31 PM on 07/10/2012
Tombouctou Manuscrits Project : http://www.tombouctoumanuscripts.org/
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FearlessFreep
A radical leftist with a JS Woodsworth avatar.
08:53 PM on 07/09/2012
Sounds like certain fundamentalist Christians!
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Summer of 69
Shenanigans & Chicanery
07:47 PM on 07/10/2012
Also sounds like certain militant atheists, like the ones who destroyed hundreds of churches and countless works of art and literature in France, Russia, Spain, and Mexico (to name a few examples).
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sandalwood
songs of the shamans...
04:20 PM on 07/09/2012
The Bamiyan Buddhas were virtually the last remaining signs of Buddhism in the huge area called 'the silk road'. Most of the Buddhist sites were destroyed over the centuries by Muslims as they reached the area. In the Swat valley itself, there were thousands of Buddhist monasteries, now ruined or simply gone due to being razed to the ground.

The fate of Nalanda is typical of what happened, as recorded in the Muslim chronicles themselves, by Muslim historians... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nalanda#Decline_and_end

"In 1193, the Nalanda University was sacked by[12] the fanatic Bakhtiyar Khilji, a Turk;[13] this event is seen by scholars as a late milestone in the decline of Buddhism in India. The Persian historian Minhaj-i-Siraj, in his chronicle the Tabaqat-I-Nasiri, reported that thousands of monks were burned alive and thousands beheaded as Khilji tried his best to uproot Buddhism and plant Islam by the sword[14] the burning of the library continued for several months and "smoke from the burning manuscripts hung for days like a dark pall over the low hills."[15]"
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Llewelyn Morgan
08:48 PM on 07/09/2012
Leaving aside the question of the accuracy of medieval historians (who had a habit of claiming as campaigns of religious conversion what were really straightforward acts of conquest, for obvious reasons), if I posted here Wikipedia on what Cortez got up to in Mexico, or on some of the punishments meted out by the British after the "Indian Mutiny", would that prove that Christianity was an inherently violent religion? The British in India, and the Spanish Conquistadors, were very religious people, and I, as it happens, have no religion. Yet I see no reason to believe it was something inherent to Christianity which generated that violence. And I'm afraid it is simply not known by what process the Buddhist sites in Afghanistan declined, but the archaeological evidence (supported by comparative evidence from other areas conquered by Islamic forces) suggests that Buddhism was never violently overthrown, but rather was gradually replaced by Islam, which had sophisticated strategies for accommodating non-Muslims within a Muslim jurisdiction.
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sandalwood
songs of the shamans...
09:29 PM on 07/09/2012
Both the evangelizing monotheisms with their 'my way or the highway' approach have targeted other religions. History shows us that, like the link I gave and the examples you give. Its only secularism in the West which has turned the tap off, which is not yet turned off in the wider Muslim world.

Tell me Llewelyn, why doesn't history show Hindus and Buddhists tearing down others' places of worship?

The entire silk road in ruins, as described the Muslim historians. So why not to believe them? I gave a link in another comment where it is shown, by the evidence given by Muslim historians AND the facts the on the ground, of Hindu temples razed to the ground and Mosques built on top. You do realize don't you, that the Blue mosque in Afganistan still has looted pillars from the Somnath temple as its entrance steps. Anyway, cite your sources if you wish to continue this discussion/debate.
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sandalwood
songs of the shamans...
09:40 PM on 07/09/2012
BTW, Llewelyn, are you disputing the record of events at Nalanda as my link shows? If so, cite your sources. It lies in utter ruins.

Next, Nalanda was THE place of Buddhist scholarship, the centre of gravity like the Vatican or Mecca. Tell me, how destroying those two places would not amount to a major, major factor in the consequent reduction of their well being, and of their influence, the worldview espoused there?

But not just Nalanda, but thousands of sites are in ruins... so how come?
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see-ellen2001
03:33 PM on 07/09/2012
Taliban is to Islam as Westboro is to Christianity.
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sandalwood
songs of the shamans...
04:21 PM on 07/09/2012
Really? The Westboro branch has a worldwide following in dozens of countries?
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Shenanigans & Chicanery
07:50 PM on 07/10/2012
Are you expecting rational thought or critical analysis on HuffPo? Because I have some bad news...
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ILoveTheUSofA
BREAKING NEWS: There is no God.
03:19 PM on 07/09/2012
Morgan says, "Pamela Geller is not someone you naturally go to for balanced coverage of Islamic issues (she has expressed the view that "Islam is the most antisemitic, genocidal ideology in the world", for example)..."

Llewelyn, please read the excellent, magnificent book by Andrew Bostom, "The legacy of Islamic Antisemitism: From Sacred Texts to Solemn History."

I challenge you to read this book, and then try to claim that there is any lack of balance in Geller's statement.

While waiting for the book to arrive, you might read this:

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/antisemitism-in-quran-part-1.html
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sandalwood
songs of the shamans...
04:31 PM on 07/09/2012
He could also read this...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_Temples:_What_Happened_to_Them

"Hindu Temples – What Happened to Them is a two-volume book by Sita Ram Goel, Arun Shourie, Harsh Narain, Jay Dubashi and Ram Swarup. The first volume was published in spring 1990.
The first volume includes a list of 2000 mosques that it is claimed were built on Hindu temples, which it is asserted is based primarily on the books of Muslim historians of the period or the inscriptions of the mosques. The second volume excerpts from medieval histories and chronicles and from inscriptions concerning the destruction of Hindu, Jain and Buddhist temples. The authors claim that the material presented in this book are only the tip of an iceberg."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_non-Muslim_places_of_worship_into_mosques
03:04 PM on 07/09/2012
Spiritual malware hijacks gullible minds... http://rational-buddhism.blogspot.com/2012/01/metameme.html
02:21 AM on 07/29/2012
"Spiritual malware hijacks gullible minds... http://rational-buddhism.blogspot.com/2012/01/metameme.html"

And petrodollars hijack amoral academics:

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/05/saudi-arabia-buys-oxford.html

"Between 1995 and 2008, eight universities — Oxford, Cambridge, Durham, University College London, the LSE, Exeter, Dundee and City accepted more than £235 million from Muslim rulers and those closely connected to them."”
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ILoveTheUSofA
BREAKING NEWS: There is no God.
02:54 PM on 07/09/2012
Why doesn't Morgan provide a link to Geller's article? Here it is:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/06/mali-muslims-destroy-holy-timbuktu-sites-witnesses.html

Yes, the Ansar Dine Islamist group is trying to impose the Ansar Dine Islamic beliefs on the Sufi Muslims of Timbuktu. So what was incorrect about any statement in Geller's article? Nothing.

Muhammad himself established the Islamic tradition of destroying the holy sites of other religions. Furthermore, he even established the tradition of some Muslims destroying the holy sites of other Muslims. Yes, it's true: Muhammad once destroyed a newly built mosque. Why? Evidently, because someone else had built it, and Muhammad was jealous.

By the way, Llewelyn - will you please name an ideology in the world today that you consider MORE antisemitic than Islam? Thanks.

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islamic_Antisemitism
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Llewelyn Morgan
03:40 PM on 07/09/2012
I did provide a link to Geller's article: click "blog" in the opening paragraph. I encourage everyone to read her article, and decide for themselves whether my characterisation of it is right or wrong.
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ILoveTheUSofA
BREAKING NEWS: There is no God.
04:16 PM on 07/09/2012
You have implied that there is something unbalanced or incorrect in her article. There isn't.

Do you not understand that the Ansar Dine Muslims regard the Sufi Muslims as "unbelievers" just as much as anyone else who doesn't accept the Ansar Dine version of Islam?

Geller says, "This is an Islamic pattern sanctioned by fatwa, to destroy religious icons, statues and artifacts of all other belief systems."

Perfectly correct. As far as the Ansar Dine are concerned, Sufi Islam is not Islam at all - it is another belief system.

What Timbuktu really tells us is that modern Islamic cults such as the Ansar Dine hardly differ from the original Islamic cult led by Muhammad. They still manifest the same destructive attributes of the same malignant narcissism that characterized Muhammad himself and which every Islamic cult has propagated ever since. Please read the book "Islam Dismantled" by Sujit Das to understand this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malignant_narcissism
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12:05 PM on 07/09/2012
There are a few things that can defeat this type of Islamism or political Islam, an enlightenment with in the Muslim community and the community speaking out and shouting these groups down. But alas all the time we have to pay respect to peoples religious views or allow religious schools funded by extremists to exist we are sowing the seeds of our own demise. One day in the near future one of these suicidal, end time cults will get their hands on nuclear weapons and repay us for the compulsory respect of their babyish, sexual repressed Iron age fairy tales, then the debate will truly be over.
09:51 AM on 07/09/2012
Firstly it is Azawad not Mali. Secondly, Ansar Al Dine translates better as Warriors of the Faith. Thirdly, the US fears a "Muslim bomb" - Azawad is awash with Uranium and AQIM affiliates use the concerns of Washington to stoke regional tensions. They claim Shirk as a rationale but as with Bamiyan the objects of their ire belong to the world and cannot harm the Qu'ran.