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After the Fall of three Arab Dictators - What Next?

Posted: 27/10/11 21:35 BST

The first three versions of regime change during the Arab Spring - unhindered escape of the Tunisian President, imprisonment and criminal proceedings in Egypt and mob law in Libya - have created a momentum that will be hard to stall.

The case of Libya shows that decisive action, i.e. Cameron and Sarkozy's initiative - supported by Obama - to effect NATO deployment, sealed Gaddafi's fate.

Otherwise it could have led to civil war and perhaps even the survival of the dictator. Yemen's dogged dictator is now heavily at risk.

However, the most bloodthirsty of all dictatorships, the Assad regime in Syria, keeps on fighting unperturbed because it seems to be sure of the protection by some weighty allies.

Iran's financial assistance and weapons supplies; Turkey's dubious stance which, on the one hand, calls for moderation but would not welcome regime change; and most of all, Russia's support at the United Nations give Assad enough reason to rage on.

Key words such as regime change, democratic renewal, freedom of the press are not well liked in Moscow and Beijing which seek to prevent any military intervention of the West.

Compared to Gaddafi, father and son Assad have to answer for at least 50,000 deaths and cannot rely on the kind of loyalty Gaddafi received from his tribesmen until the end.

A Libyan style involvement of the West and NATO as protectors of the civilian population in Syria would definitely sweep away the Assad regime. At the same time this would mean a heavy blow for Teheran which organises its assistance for Hezbollah in Lebanon and for Hamas in the Gaza strip from Damascus.

The Arab monarchies Morocco and Jordan might contain revolutionary elements but the majority of its people are Royalists. Both dynasties are held to be the descendants of the prophet Mohammed.

Saudi Arabia has a key position. The monarchy - closely linked to the clergy - does not only feel more secure on the domestic front but thinks it can rely on US protection.

After the death of the heir to the throne, Prince Sultan, this week a newly constituted High Council of Princes will now determine the succession to the aged King Abdullah. New arrangements will for the first time allow that not only members of the founding generation but also grandchildren and nephews of Ibn Saud obtain the right to be elected.

The oldest of the heirs apparent and current Minister of the Interior, Prince Nayef, is seen as a hard-line traditionalist who has little understanding of the spirit of the time.

Those Arab experts in the know are betting on a younger, more progressive Prince; a solution that would suit the ailing but realistically thinking King Abdullah.

 
The first three versions of regime change during the Arab Spring - unhindered escape of the Tunisian President, imprisonment and criminal proceedings in Egypt and mob law in Libya - have created a mom...
The first three versions of regime change during the Arab Spring - unhindered escape of the Tunisian President, imprisonment and criminal proceedings in Egypt and mob law in Libya - have created a mom...
 
 
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Marchmont
09:30 AM on 11/03/2011
When Bush-Blair decided to rid the world of Saddam Hussein, the 1.5 million Chaldeans (Christian Iraqis) he protected were the main losers and have now almost entirely fled. Cameron-Sarkozy performed the same feat in Libya while the Arab Spring in Egypt and Tunisia soon turned to autumn for the Christian Copts who are leaving in droves. In North Africa and beyond, local Christians are fighting for survival, accused of the sin of being agents of “foreign” values even though they predate Islam by 600 years. Western geopolitical idiocy ruined Iraq and Libya but the whole of North Africa will rue the day because local Christians were a bridge between western and Arab culture. Moderation and mutual understanding between the two worlds will decline as the “Arab street” absorbs the West’s tawdry consumerism and rejects its spiritual idealism.
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SansCulottes08
02:17 AM on 10/31/2011
"After the Fall of three Arab Dictators - What Next?"

Hopefully, it will be the fall of the American corporate dictators, the Forbes 400. Within their corporate fiefdoms, they rule with the absolute power of Gadaffi, and collective­ly they comprise our ruling Oligarchy. They claim their right to wield absolute power over their wage serfs and debt slaves is bestowed on them by the Divine Right of the Holy Free Global Market, which they manipulate through their control of the American government­, military and security state.

I would especially enjoy seeing the fall of

- the Koch Brothers

- Donald Trump

- Michael Bloomberg

to name but a few, in a manner reminiscen­t of the fall of Ghadaffi, or Ceaucescu, or Mussolini, or Tsar Nicholas II, or Louis XVI.
09:08 AM on 10/31/2011
400 corportations of absolute rulers. Thats a lot of absolute rulers. And we should kill them all and their families like those dictators and monarchs of the past. Do we kill all the shareholders as well? What about those who aren't on the board but make policy dicisions. Can't forget all those that buy their products ... after all who put the money in their pockets to begin with. I think the employees have to go as well they support and through their efforts made their profit scemes successful. Police and military have to go ... they protect these people. Lawyers ... needs no explaination. Advertisers and entertainers they have to go for advancing these modern dictators plans to the people who don't know any better. There are more that will have to go to bring about a perfect world but there is a 250 word limit, that person definately has to go word oppression must end now.
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ruleoflaw66
And I'd opt out of 'fans' too if I could.
11:53 PM on 10/30/2011
Isn't this just the manifestation of Joseph Nye's--who actively campaigned for Obama-- "soft power," a new form of imperialis­t aggression based on economic warfare, subversion­, deception, and people power coups. They want Obama to mobilize soft power to give a face lift to US imperialis­m.

And isn't our massing of men and materials in Kuwait just a step toward more military adventures in Africa, which Mr. Obama just seems to have discovered when he sent 100 "advisers" there?

Isn't everything advancing according to plan, Mr. Weidenfeld?
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
10:22 PM on 10/30/2011
What next? Adverts for three new dictators.
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Freenation
09:37 PM on 10/30/2011
Dark lord left another bad apple from his discussion: the protests taking place in Israel regarding the rising income gap
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morristhewise
09:29 PM on 10/30/2011
It is shocking how the Saudi royal family manages to stay in power. There is nothing royal about them; they would be exported to London if the citizens had their wish.
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06:00 PM on 10/30/2011
At one level the times are against dictators, all kinds of dictators beginning with Arab Spring. At this level the next could be Assad and so on. At an other, greater level, a story or a cycle began with rather excess of earthquakes, tsunamis which may end in some kind of greater nuclear disaster or even catastrophe than Fukushima. One can have both of their pics from a common explanation as given by me here: http://www.bigtamasha.com/2011/10/what-hell-is-happening-to-world.html Advance apology if to someone it just looks pseudoscience or the like.
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django707
Reinhardt not Unchained
05:03 PM on 10/30/2011
Maybe after the overthrow of these Arab dictators we will see the overthrow of financial dictators such as yourself, Lord Weidenfeld.
We can but hope.
11:01 PM on 10/30/2011
Good point! Fanned and faved.
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dirtydog1776
rub my soft, furry, objectivist tummy
04:49 PM on 10/30/2011
The fall of these dictators does not promise democracy or any changes for the better. On the contrary, power vacuums have been formed that most likely promise the establishment of more dictatorships, probably in the form on a radical Muslim theocracy along with a great deal of regional chaos and violence. This is most apparent in Iraq. The removal of Saddam Hussein from power, and his death, has not brought any stability to that region, and when US forces are removed, expect the worse to happen.

Part of the fault for this situation lies with President Bush, who did not see or did not want to see, the consequences of deposing Hussein. The policy is being continued by President Obama who applauds the fall of national strongmen, while believing that these countries will set up some form of American style democracy, which is not likely to happen.

The United States should remember this is a Republic, not any empire and bring the troops home now.

We cannot and should not impose our values on a world that does not value them or want them. We can educate them by our example and the type of society we establish.

We need to secure our borders and work to safeguard our freedoms here at home.
04:37 PM on 10/30/2011
I just wish we could all get along. Think about it. Of course fox news would go off the air. Yahoo.
02:16 PM on 10/30/2011
Whats next?

Looks like radicals are taking over in these 3 nations and tolerance for minorities, women and religious freedom has been made to almost vanish. Seems the "democratic" movements in Egypt and elsewhere is turning out not so democratic as we have been told and instead seem to be heading in the direction some of the supposed-crackpots predicted...
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eddy joe
welcome to the machine
12:20 PM on 10/30/2011
Maybe we can help set up muslim governments, everywhere.
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mabinog
My micro-bio is a desolate wasteland
11:38 PM on 10/30/2011
The West has been doing that very thing since at least WWI.
12:06 PM on 10/30/2011
What you misconstrue is that there is no Arab Spring, it's merely the first stages of the collapse of a dying civilization. In 10 years you'll look back wistfully at 2011 and wonder if they weren't better off.
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cerebrogasm
The sleep of reason produces monsters. - Goya
08:44 AM on 10/30/2011
The West can never be fully trusted allies with people that embrace Islam as the inerrant word of God - since that inerrant word calls for our extinction. Religion poisons everything.
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The Grouch
Seeing the world thru a warped prism ...
05:15 AM on 10/30/2011
Headline -- "After the Fall of Three Arab Dictators - What Next?" I have a suggestion: How about the elimination of the outdated, elitist, discriminatory system that crowns certain people Lords, Dukes, Kings and Queens?
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django707
Reinhardt not Unchained
05:05 PM on 10/30/2011
I'm with ya, grouch. Said the same thing to his lordship. F&F!
08:24 PM on 10/30/2011
"Seeing the world thru a warped prism"...And it shows