We urgently need a post-mortem inquiry into what on earth went wrong in Brussels this past weekend. At the very least a departmental select committee needs to ask some very searching questions.
Contrary to the whoops and cheers of the eurosceptics, British business and sensible commentators are waking up to the reality that Britain is now more isolated in Europe than at any time in the last forty years and at risk of being excluded from the heart of European decision-making at an absolutely critical time. Far from guaranteeing safeguards for the City and the British financial services sector, we have been left in a position where a new fiscal stability club of 26 might start to develop institutions and make rules which pan out very badly for British business and British jobs.
Sarkozy has been accused of intransigence and of manoeuvring against the interests of the City of London. Perhaps that is part of a French president's job description. The real surprise is why every other EU nation - even those who are not in the Eurozone and including famously eurosceptic Denmark - sided with Sarko and not with our Prime Minister.
It's not as if the demands we were making were that unreasonable:
Protections for national financial regulation that would actually have enabled tougher rules like the Vickers proposals to be implemented without challenge; higher capitalisation targets for banks which would have made all European banking safer. There were none of the loopier eurosceptic demands for repatriation of powers or rewriting of social legislation in the middle of a crisis. So why did even this modest negotiating position fail?
One explanation, albeit unlikely, is that Mr Cameron was a poor negotiator on the night or that British diplomatic effort was inadequate. At the very least he may now regret the throwaway leadership election pledge to leave the main centre-right political grouping, the European People's Party. This excluded him from a crucial pre-summit pow-wow of right wing European leaders in Marseilles, where he might have wooed many natural sympathisers.
Perhaps European leaders were genuinely exasperated with Britain's single-minded defence of the City of London, so happy to profit from dealing in euros but apparently unwilling to lift much of a finger to help save the currency from collapse.
Or is the explanation simpler than that? That the endless torrent of xenophobic eurosceptic rhetoric had so alienated other European leaders that when push came to shove we didn't have a friend in the room. When some Tory MPs compared David Cameron's position in Brussels to that of Neville Chamberlain at Munich in the days before the summit, you can imagine any last ounce of sympathy for the British position evaporating completely.
Liberal Democrats won't throw our toys out of the coalition pram over this. There is too much at stake: from the continuing need for a stable government to clear up the mess left to us by the last government, to delivering on promises like the income tax break for the lower paid, or the pupil premium or the greening of the economy.
We are not about to put all that at stake.
But Liberal Democrat ministers will now have to work much harder with Conservative colleagues to rebuild trust and relationships within Europe. As the new treaty process develops, we need to make sure that Britain's influence over events is not lost altogether. Lib Dem negotiating skills, contacts and positive commitment will be crucial to that process.
But we have a right to ask how exactly we got into this situation and demand some explanations.
The kind of membership that Britain desires just ain't in the catalogue. More worrying is the idea (whether that's just talk with or without substance I cannot say) - with Britain no longer at the Brussels table, the US have lost influence over Europe. If that's what Britain's membership was about, it was dishonest. If there is a grain of truth in that, then you need to consider that US influence, US rules, and the practices of the US finance industry are the causes for this crisis, that may well ruin more lives than WWII.
Europeans have not forgotten that the US blessed Europe with this crisis. Saying that you want to protect the City of London (in Europe on my map), when in effect you want to shield the branches of US corporations from taxes needed to pay for the bailouts, is also dishonest.
I suggest, you talk to your friends who can read continental languages and they have a look at non-English forums. Britain's troublesome European membership 'ceasing' is mostly described as a relief and nobody seems to worry about losses. Veritas non olet.
Cameron must be out of his mind to think that he would get away with asking a concession exactly for that "industry"Â by holding hostage (as a non Euro user) that change to the treaty necessary for the Euro . Also it would give a relative advantage to the UK banks compared with all other European banks. Ironic is that a lot of the coming regulation will pass through "comitologÂy" in effect a modified decision process aiming for faster implementaÂtion than the transpositÂion used up till now. The UK wont be able to stop that, so Cameron succeeded in shooting himself in the foot quite publicly.
apart from that what was their GDP ,well it did not matter ,same as the poorer eastern block countries ,look at the banks it is no different they will give you loans way over your ability to pay back ,it just cant work all that happens there is some Eurocrat gets a lot paperwork to shuffle and the machine moves on !