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Poppy Pride or Poppy Fascism?

Posted: 15/10/11 01:00 BST

In recent years Jon Snow, the excellent Channel 4 News presenter, has created a huge stir regarding his decision not to wear a red poppy on TV during the weeks leading up to Remembrance Day. A couple of years ago Snow stated:

"I am begged to wear an Aids ribbon, a breast cancer ribbon, a Marie Curie flower ... You name it, from the Red Cross to the RNIB, they send me stuff to wear to raise awareness, and I don't. And in those terms, and those terms alone, I do not and will not wear a poppy. Additionally there is a rather unpleasant breed of poppy fascism out there - 'he damned well must wear a poppy!' Well I do, in my private life, but I am not going to wear it or any other symbol on air."

Personally I like and admire Jon Snow. Indeed I think he is one of the nation's best - if not the best - broadcast journalists and rightly commands huge respect from both his peers and the public at large. But on this issue I am not sure that I totally agree with him. What is wrong with wearing the odd "symbol" on air and surely we can all make exceptions? Jon's logic appears to be that because he is unable to publicly promote all of the causes that he is asked to support he simply won't support any of them. This is a bit like arguing that because I can't give to all of the charities that ask for my help I won't give to any charity.

The poppy is 'The' symbol of remembrance. We do not diminish anyone by wearing it, least of all the veterans. Diminishing the debt we owe our predecessors would be accomplished by resigning ourselves to the notion that we cannot comprehend what happened. We undermine the notion of Remembrance Day by lack of reflection, not flippantly wearing, or not wearing, a poppy.

I strongly believe that focusing on the future is done by reflecting on the past. Wearing the poppy symbolises that an individual, at the very least, acknowledges the past. A poppy has never been a substitute for action - no symbol ever is - but we must be sure that what the poppy symbolises is not lost on those who seek to build upon our freedoms.

So I will be wearing my poppy this November. Out of some misguided sense of jingoistic pride? No. Out of respect and gratitude? Yes. Why? Because the act of remembrance and the wearing of a poppy is a very small price to pay.

 

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In recent years Jon Snow, the excellent Channel 4 News presenter, has created a huge stir regarding his decision not to wear a red poppy on TV during the weeks leading up to Remembrance Day. A couple ...
In recent years Jon Snow, the excellent Channel 4 News presenter, has created a huge stir regarding his decision not to wear a red poppy on TV during the weeks leading up to Remembrance Day. A couple ...
 
 
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01:00 PM on 11/07/2011
I take a lot of heat around this subject myself. I will wear a poppy. But I will not buy one. Here is why.
At their annual convention in 1994 (I believe), members of the Royal Canadian Legion, Canada's chief veterans' organization, voted to let their local branches bar anyone wearing headgear from entering their halls. In effect, the vote allows local branches to exclude Jewish and Sikh veterans if they are wearing yarmulkes or turbans, as some do for religious reasons.

The vote, 1,959 to 629, overturned a proposal by the legion's leadership to allow religious headgear even though hats are normally doffed in legion halls out of respect for the fallen-in-battle.

This does not sit well with me. I support veterans. I never miss a Rememberance Day service. I have sent letters and Tim Horton gift cards to Afghanistan. I made the journey to Ottawa to see the Unknown Soldier when he was brought home from France to lie in state in Parliament. My Uncles fought in WWII and one was the head of the legion for many years in his community.

I believe this all arose when the RCMP allowed Sikhs to wear turbans while on duty.
I know I stand alone here but if you don't stand for something...well you know.

I will wear one if I find one. And let's face it lost poppies are everywhere.
On Nov. 11th I will remember. As I remember everyday, those who died for us.
02:36 PM on 10/16/2011
I am fifty, Irish and have lived in London 25 years. Though Ireland (southern) lost people to the war we did not have the poppy. As a child I learned from my grandmother (her husband survived Ypres) that rememberance day was sorrow for the lost and a commitment to never again. I have observed jingoism and militarism blossom in this society to the point where rememberance day has become an affirmation of the use of military force. Blair on a gibbet beside the Cenotaph would honor the day and send a message to those that follow that there are consequences.
04:12 PM on 10/15/2011
I have respect and gratitude. I donate time to charitable work and I give money to a number of charities - including putting money into poppy collecting tins.

I never wear a poppy, however, as I refuse to give in to expectations that everyone MUST wear a badge to PROVE how respectful and grateful they are. The "Poppy Nazis" who automatically assume that by failing to wear an appropriate badge I must be some sort of evil anti-British anarchist should pause and reflect on the giant Fascistic wedge of which their behaviour is the thin end.
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01:43 PM on 10/15/2011
As a sign of respect for thee dead the Poppy is unparalleled it has more awareness than the bows for Aids etc which are a life style phenomenon and not in the same league. These people died in in the service of their Country and are rightly remembered with gratitude .
11:05 AM on 10/15/2011
Surely whether there is anything 'wrong' with wearing a poppy is irrelevant. You'd be hard pressed to find someone on the street who thinks that wearing a poppy in November is an inherently bad thing, and I am sure that Snow doesn't think this, but that's not the issue here. The remembrance poppy is a political symbol, no matter how innocuous, and nobody should be forced to declare a certain political message. Wearing a poppy is a nice convention that has become all but compulsory, and all kudos to Snow for pointing out that it shouldn't have.