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You Can Smell the Fear in Barroso's Nostrils

Posted: 12/07/2012 14:14

Jose Manuel Barroso, the President of the European Commission's interview in today's New Statesman is a master class in delusional vapouring. He is terrified by the markets, which today have dealt another under the plimsoll line blow to Spain, he is horrified by the future, and worse, he is mortified by the possibility of democracy in action. His, and his colleagues in Brussels actions when the former Greek PM suggested a referendum - Papandreou was out of the job with the week - spoke volumes.

However the really depressing thing about his comments about the place of Britain in the world is that they are so tired and predictable, notwithstanding that they are so wrong.

They are also historic and frankly absurd. So he thinks that Britain would be diminished out in the real world. He thinks that somehow we have more influence as one of 27 (almost always in the minority) round a table, drafting a position, rather than out there on our own, making policy and agreements that suit us.

Try a thought experiment. Imagine Britain wanted a free trade agreement with Australia.

For various reasons the process would rattle along pretty quickly. This is how the Australian's regard our relationship, "Australia has a significant relationship with the UK underpinned by our shared heritage, common values, closely aligned strategic outlook and interests." We both recognise that trade between our two nations would be improved by such a deal, and we are already strong trading partners. Australia has a long experience of conducting sovereign trading agreements and has the Cairn's group. It has such deals include the US, New Zealand, Chile, Thailand, Singapore and Malaysia. It is working on China, Korea, the Gulf states, Japan, India and Indonesia.

So how about the EU and Australia? Remember that prior to Britain joining the Common Market we had a deal with Australia and the rest of the Commonwealth destroyed by our membership.

The EU has been conducting negotiations since forever and the first tiny agreement on wine and science was signed in 1994, since then there have been incremental and very difficult talks, leading to a collapse of an agreement on coal in 2003 and so on. We are no nearer a fundamental trade agreement.

If Britain wants to hold its head up high, if we want to trade with the world and prosper, we can do so better without the drear suffocation provided by the Brussels establishment.

Barroso tells us that he is surprised at our attitude,

"I ask myself: "How is it that this country is so open to the world, and apparently so closed to Europe?" It seems a contradiction."

It is no contradiction; it is because we are open to the world that we have lost our patience with an EU that is inherently inward looking. It is because we know that we can operate better and freer on our own than in the EU, with its permanent tariff barrier to the rest of the world, with its 'everything but farms' approach to global trade, with its condescension and its arrogance and its lack of vision.

Britain is happy to live with the hard work which freedom will entail. We are prepared for the future, but to do so we must be captain on our own bridge.

 

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Jose Manuel Barroso, the President of the European Commission's interview in today's New Statesman is a master class in delusional vapouring. He is terrified by the markets, which today have dealt ano...
Jose Manuel Barroso, the President of the European Commission's interview in today's New Statesman is a master class in delusional vapouring. He is terrified by the markets, which today have dealt ano...
 
 
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16:02 on 29/07/2012
Such a lot of rubbish is spoken by this U-SKIP lot ! Yes, it's hard for the EU to get together as a political entity, but actually, it's worked better than the first expectations of those who created the Coal and Steel market in the '50s. All the examples given by U-skip are silly and do not hold any water. The EU does make mistakes because it is human, but in a few years' time, when the problems are ironed out, the EU will remain the first power in the world with more educated and democratic peoples than anywhere else in the world. The EU idea was to stop wars ever again starting in Europe and it has worked extremely well. It may be expensive, but it is less expensive than WW1 and WW2 and has meant growth in the whole world as well as welfare states being able to succeed. Of course, it doesn't please people who would like to have top place in the world and exploit it to the hilt for their own benefit, but then, that's the way it goes. Better to have compromises than wars, and welfare states than hard communism or capitalism. Get off the gravy train Uskip, and stop being silly! If you don't like the EU, don't even go into the EU parliament where you are ridiculed each minute of each day.
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15:40 on 31/07/2012
The whole of the European Union is in dire straits financially so, how do you reach such positive conclusions?
I’ll accept your point regarding peace in Europe but, not to the point we should bury our head in the sand as a consequence.
As for the welfare state, it’s on its knees and is being covertly privatised under our noses.
As for a world power, how? Wars are fought by cowardly terrorist that can do irrevocable damage within cities, not to mention rogue countries with nuclear facilities now.
At least Farage doesn’t pussyfoot around and he’ll stand up for what he believes in without having to bow and scrape to Brussels.
I was once an ardent believer in the European Union, Not anymore!!
20:14 on 31/07/2012
Further to my previous post: The whole world is in financial straights. When you look at it closely, we in UK are as badly off for debt as Spain; the only difference being that the interest rate for Spain is higher than that of K because it is bound by the Euro which doesn't have a federalist central bank as the UK has, but if Scotland goes independent (which I doubt), the UK as would remain would be in a similar situation to Spain. In fact, the EU is slowly (too slowly - and particularly France) coming to the conclusion that it needs to federalise more closely, and if it does (which isn't for tomorrow, granted!) it will be stronger than the USA. The EU and Terrorism: as far as I can see, all major EU countries are now sharing intelligence and if I understand it correctly, the terrorists are fairly well kept in check. The Welfare never really took off in EU, but it's still miles better than anywhere else in the world. Have a great evening !
08:44 on 14/07/2012
Dismissed as cranks by the great and the good, or simply ignored, it is clear that Farage and UKIP have been right all along.
08:04 on 15/07/2012
What have Farage and UKIP been "right" about all along?
20:31 on 15/07/2012
Lethalowl is more ostrich than wise owl, of course Farage makes sense. We all know the damage the EU is doing and at what cost. We need to ditch the CAP which simply subsidises inefficient French farmers, dump the EU foreign services which mirror and parallels our own very efficient Diplomatic Services. The UK electorate has only signed up to an Economic Communtiy arrangement but we are being dragged kicking and screaming into some sort of European hegemony dictated more by Germany and France than the rest of us partners. We need to reinvigorate our Commonwealth trading partnerships and concentrate on the emerging markets of the BRIC countries.
10:33 on 21/07/2012
The EU!
08:30 on 15/07/2012
Damage to the UK, economic and democratic.
14:28 on 13/07/2012
Mr Farage makes a lot of common sense. We did ditch the Commonwealth to some extent when we entered the Common Market and it is time we repaired our fences in this regard without being shackled to the suffocating EU regulations.
08:04 on 15/07/2012
What EU regulations, specifically are "suffocating" Britain, and how so?
11:00 on 15/07/2012
EU fishery rules,regional policies,regulations on stifling employment and employees,regulations on financial services, an expensive and largely uneccessary EU Foreign Service and with us not having the ability to shape them. We signed up to an EEC not a USE....
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12:02 on 13/07/2012
As we in Scotland also wish to be captain on our own bridge. Then we can leave you and all other people like you to do what you want without mucking up our country.
15:30 on 14/07/2012
"We" ? You speak for all us Scots do you? Is this a vision of a new Scottish democratic freedom?
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Mark B Robertson
17:24 on 14/07/2012
No, I do not obviously, however we Scots, including have the right to decide our own future. Whether we choose Independence, or more devoloution, or the status quo. It is for us to decide based on the information from all sides. It is not for the Westminster elite who do not benefit Scotland to decide, they have betrayed us often enough.
18:11 on 14/07/2012
Yes, you can. It's called democracy. We think the UK is weaker without you, and you without it, but it's your land and your choice, as it is for the UK as whole (for now) to choose its future
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18:17 on 14/07/2012
I doubt you'll ever get the EU referendum you desire.  However, thanks for agreeing it's our choice, many seem to differ on that one and want to deprive the Scottish people of our choice in this matter.
16:08 on 29/07/2012
Just as the EU is weaker without the UK and the UK without the EU. It was always the hope of EU leaders to have the UK as part of the big 3! Heath saw it, and other leaders too, but the Murderocks and other pro capitalists of their ilk, totally anti democratic, spoiled it for the majority of peoples, including us in Britain, using their propaganda machine to disseminate false information.
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Democracy is discussion, dissent, and debate!
09:34 on 13/07/2012
What if Europe becomes democratic?
18:15 on 13/07/2012
Not a chance..... 'the project' ( as they like to call it ) it has been 60+ years since the planning and they're only half-way through implementation. When I say they, I mean the unelected elite who dictate what we will and won't do. come along chaps! ever closer union ! No? ... can't interest you... not to worry, we'll just do it bit by bit so you don't notice.
concodtob
16 stone athlete and intellectual
19:38 on 13/07/2012
Yep, this is what the deluded EUphiles conveniently choose not to mention.
08:14 on 15/07/2012
In what ways is it any less democratic than most other governments?
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OzzieTonto
“Hatred, the only thing that lasts.”
02:28 on 13/07/2012
According to Larry Elliott,
... The real decisions in Europe are now taken by the Frankfurt Group, an unelected cabal made of up eight people: Lagarde; Merkel; Sarkozy; Mario Draghi, the new president of the ECB; José Manuel Barroso, the president of the European Commission; Jean-Claude Juncker, chairman of the Eurogroup; Herman van Rompuy, the president of the European Council; and Olli Rehn, Europe’s economic and monetary affairs commissioner...
Who would be the Englishman to sit with these emperors? (rhetorical question - they would appear to be England's targets, and so far, they're looking like losers) but do the English realise their ruling cabal is conducting a war on the euro? From afar, it's intriguing to watch this clandestine struggle, except normal human beings are being sacrificed in it.
18:20 on 13/07/2012
Spot on.... this Euro situation simply allows them to drive through more of the Lisbon Treaty. ( fiscal and political union ) I watched an interesting documentary about the EU... a previous French Government advisor on the EU let slip that the idea is to create a crisis, then you can move forward a step... apparently, that is the way that they have moved forward and implemented the most major changes for decades
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OzzieTonto
“Hatred, the only thing that lasts.”
01:49 on 14/07/2012
Naomi Klein called it Disaster Capitalism, but it looks more like feudalism.
16:36 on 29/07/2012
Such a lot of nonsense here... Sarkozy is no longer president, he lost the elections in France and Hollande replaced him recently with a majority vote and has more MPs than the previous lot, Merkel was properly elected several times, Barroso was chosen by the 27 member states inc the UK, etc... etc... Lagarde was chosen by a majority of 194 nation states... More democratic than the present coalition who have no majority at all, except that they chose to band together against Brown. But did you vote for the coalition? Come off it ! Who's democratic now, eh !
13:17 on 01/08/2012
The true coalition in our country is between the politicians( the three parties) and the bankers. Not much democracy here!
02:28 on 13/07/2012
Switzerland is not in the EU and has full open trade with EU nations. Also higher employment rates than any country on earth.

Pull out of the death grip of the EU and create jobs and get freedom.

FREEDOM.
16:25 on 29/07/2012
Really? Can you show official figures of this? Switzerland is doing so well that it has pegged its currency to the Euro so that it can't be outpriced on its exports. The day Britain does that, there will be parity. In 2007 the £ was worth €1 57, and now it's just picked up from €1.10 to €1.24... I don't call that success, do you? A devaluation of between 17 to 35% depending on the month against the Euro. That's why our foodstuffs are so much more expensive because we buy them from the EU. As for petrol, think about the £ against the $, and tell me what's so good about the British economy...
12:08 on 30/07/2012
Foods in the UK is bought from all over the world, not just the EU. The UK is in the EU, so the rest of your points are invalid.   Switzerland is not in the EU and has 80% employment rates, higher than any nation on earth, fact.
22:10 on 15/08/2012
Tax on fuel in the UK is why we have higher food prices than some.  Learn something.   Greece is in the Euro zone and not doing too well.   Switzerland and Norway are doing just fine outside the Eurozone.
22:53 on 12/07/2012
Britain is closed to EU because it is a secular Civilized and Democratic country, while EU is a new anti-democratic empire.
08:15 on 15/07/2012
Present evidence of this silly claim.
16:26 on 29/07/2012
Total misinformed drivel.
22:16 on 12/07/2012
A sudden outbreak of democracy? The socialist EU puppet masters must be quaking in their boots. I'm praying that Mr Farage is next in number 10 to save us from the catastrophy that is the EU. If it's of any consequence, my family, friends and work colleagues will be voting UKIP in 2015.
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21:00 on 12/07/2012
Barroso tells us that he is surprised at our attitude,

"I ask myself: "How is it that this country is so open to the world, and apparently so closed to Europe?" It seems a contradiction."

It seems pretty self-explanatory to me, the rest of the world is open to us while Europe hates us for being so successful while ignoring it!
18:21 on 13/07/2012
They do hate us, don't they
20:45 on 12/07/2012
Love Nigel Farage.
http://www.youtube.com/ukpropaganda
17:43 on 12/07/2012
This man should be our next Prime Minister. But no doubt the sheeple will keep voting Lib/Lab/Con.
16:35 on 13/07/2012
I agree, British Voters are mostly complete idiots. They complain and they complain but do nothing about that which they complain of. They see the Tories and Lib Dems doing absolute rubbish, so they will vote for Labour and forget the crap that Labour put us through, then after Labour they will vote for the Tories and Lib Dems again.
18:13 on 14/07/2012
Fear of change is natural. We just need to keep educating people to reduce the fear of the change, to remember that there is life beyond the dying embers of the European empire
17:22 on 12/07/2012
Standard robust rhetoric from Farage - and each point spot on.

The UK's right to manage its affairs as an independent sovereign is a privilege which the UK has earned quite literally through blood and sacrifice across history. The points relating to the UK's position in global trade made above were earned in similar fashion.

These privileges are not small issues to be relinquished lightly - but must be carefully defended and preserved.
18:22 on 13/07/2012
but - they have been relinquished lightly haven't they
18:49 on 13/07/2012
Not completely - the UK still has its own currency, is not part of the Schengen zone, and is still in a position where it can choose what it wants to do next.
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17:21 on 12/07/2012
The Eurocrats are getting desperate. People are starting to question their self-interested desire for more and more centralised power. They have no democtratic legitimacy...the European Parliament is an expensive but ineffectual attempt to make the EU look democratic.

The decision makers and treaty negotiators are the unelected Commission and Council. The European Parliament is a ridiculous talking shop which has no power other than that of veto which is hardly ever used. And since 1979 voter turnout for MEP elections throughout the EU has fallen in EVERY year they have been held.

Gravy train, snouts in the trough...get rid of this rotten project. Revert back to the Common Market we voted for in 1975. And lets get the thousands of shiny ar*ed pen pushers in the EU out into the real world doing proper jobs...
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20:58 on 12/07/2012
Say hello to Mrs W for me when she favours this comment as well!
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22:58 on 12/07/2012
Lol Nathan...
17:04 on 12/07/2012
Nigel's everywhere recently!