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EU Vote: Stay in 40%, Leave 34%

Posted: 21/01/2013 10:45

For the first time in the current parliament, more people would vote for Britain to stay in the European Union than to leave. The six-point margin is not large. Future polls may well tell a different story. But as David Cameron prepares to deliver his long-awaited speech on Britain and the EU, YouGov’s latest survey for the Sunday Times finds that the public mood is more pro-membership than for some years.

The shift in recent weeks has been marked. Here are the results of YouGov’s four most recent polls when we have asked:  If there was a referendum on Britain's membership of the European Union, how would you vote?

Remain in EU %

Leave EU %

Would not vote %

Don't know

Nov 27-28, 2012 30 51 5 14
Jan 2-3, 2013 31 46 6 16
Jan 10-11, 2013 36 42 4 17
Jan 17-18, 2013 40 34 5 20

In less than two months, a 21-point lead for leaving the EU has been replaced by a six-point lead for remaining a member. Some clues to what has happened come from the following breakdown by party.

Majority for staying in (+) or leaving (-) the EU

                                                                            By party supported in 2010
All % Con % Lab % LD %
Nov 27-28 -21 -48 -12 +4
Jan 17-18 +6 -23 +31 +31
Change since Nov +27 +25 +43 +27

As those figures show, there has been a marked shift among the supporters of all three parties; but the biggest shift has been among those who voted Labour at the last election. (I have used past vote, rather than current vote, so that we are able to make a like-with-like comparison of the same groups of voters. Opinions by current party support can be found in our detailed tables, but some of the changes in attitude from one poll to the next may reflect the ebbs and flows of people moving to and from each party.)

It seems that some of the shift can be explained by the clear support for remaining in the EU expressed by Ed Miliband and Douglas Alexander, his shadow foreign secretary. Maybe the widely reported views of President Obama, an especial favourite with Labour voters, have also played a part.

That said, the shifts among Conservative and Liberal Democrat supporters are also significant. Our results are especially comforting for the prime minister.

  • Cameron’s approval rating, minus 14, is his best since last March. He has recovered from a low point of minus 30, last May.

  • He runs well ahead of his party on Europe. When people are asked which PARTY they trust most ‘to look after Britain’s interests in Europe’, Labour (23%), leads the Conservatives (20%), Ukip (15%) and the Lib Dems (7%). But when the same people are asked which party leader they trust most ‘to negotiate with the European Union on Britain’s behalf’, Cameron (26%) holds a clear lead over Miliband (18%), Ukip’s Nigel Farage (11%) and Nick Clegg (5%).

  • Perhaps most encouraging of all for Cameron, Ukip’s support in our latest survey is down to 7%, its lowest since mid-November. In the weeks leading up to Christmas, Ukip and the Lib Dems were running neck-and-neck, typically with 9-10% support each. Since the new year, the Lib Dems have edged up to almost 11%, while Ukip has slipped back.

  • The swing away from Ukip is even more marked when we ask people how they would vote in elections to the European Parliament. A week ago, Ukip, on 17%, was just ten points behind the Conservatives’ 27%. In our latest poll the gap has almost doubled, with Ukip down to 12% and the Tories up to 30%.

As always with sharp movements in public attitudes, we shall not know for some time whether we are seeing a blip or a trend. Britain and the EU has been the top domestic political news story for the past fortnight. Maybe, when it recedes from the headlines, views about the EU will revert to their normal ‘peacetime’ default position in which the centre of gravity lies somewhere between scepticism and hostility.

On the other hand, if a referendum IS held at some point in the next few years, then Europe will become a headline issue once again; and our latest results confirm the pattern of the past four decades – that when Europe lurks at the backs of peoples’ minds, we would rather keep our distance; but when the talk turns to a decision to withdraw, we start to contemplate the prospects of life outside the EU and fear that this might not be so attractive after all.

See the full survey details and results of the latest YouGov/Sunday Times survey here

Click here to view our Europe referendum tracker

 

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01:19 PM on 01/24/2013
meaningless polls that include EU citizens that voted in EU and local elections.....course they don't want UK to leave EU and lose all their welfare benefit money they send home
06:36 PM on 01/23/2013
We are always told any hint at our exit will upset the other nations, do they mean the populations or their politicians? I know many people in Holland, Germany and Italy who want a vote on their membership and for the Dutch thier no vote to be honoured. unfortunately democracy is not a word the EU understand. These polls mean nothing you can fix the wording to meet any result you want, the only poll that matters is on the day when people cast thier vote. Anybody who says they don't know enough to understand well turn off the soaps, reality program's the information is out there, don't leave it to politicians as they are minimal with the truth and businessmen want the most profit to them result!
05:27 PM on 01/23/2013
I'll bet as the argument about IN/OUT continues-- you'll see more and more polls suggesting that people want to stay in. Politician will use every dodge they can to keep their gravy train alive. The EEC was a good idea for the average person, since it became this unholy EU the only people who benifit are the politicians.
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Philip J Sparrow
When your work speaks for itself, keep quiet
03:30 PM on 01/23/2013
Of course, many Euro-skeptics will dismiss this poll (as I believe some already have below) and maybe it is too soon to draw any conclusions from it. But it does seem to demonstrate one thing quite clearly, by the way the numbers have fluctuated over a relatively short space of time - that is, aside from a few dedicated HuffPost commenters, the majority of the British public don't really spend much time thinking about the EU.

This could suggest either that the majority don't really feel Europe has any material effect, positive or negative, on their daily lives; or that they are just generally misinformed and can be swayed one way or the other by whatever is in the news that day.

Either way, I'm not overly optimistic that five years is enough time to educate a population that seems so apathetic. We're already struggling to get 70% turnout in a General election; and the turnouts in the AV and Police commissioner votes don't bode well.
04:31 PM on 01/23/2013
I think you know that many millions of British working class people have been adversely affected by the free movement of labour that EU membership has brought. The saturation of cheap labour has seriously diminished the statistical economic significance of the labour that the working public vend within the economy.

To add further burden to the working classes, the cost of housing has risen exponentially as a consequence of the aforementioned influx. There is a whole generation of youth who have been disenfranchised as a result of these policies.

If the intention of augmenting the population was not to provide the rich and powerful with the means to exploit the public, then why were there no preparations made to accommodate the influx through extra housing and infrastructure expansion.
If such preparation had been made available then you would not be encountering such antipathy towards the EU.

If one takes into account the differing abilities of individuals for instance, and assigns them as A,B,C,D,E, etc, and you allow 5,000,000 Bs and Cs to enter your economy, it is inevitable that you will displace the Ds and Es etc. To dispute this consequence is to dispute the phenomenon of supply and demand, which would be a crass argument.

None of this social phenomena seems unintended, the disparity between rich and poor will increase if the EU and the political elite gets its way. The result will be that the working classes will once again be reduced to serfdom.
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Philip J Sparrow
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04:57 PM on 01/23/2013
I think you're confusing cause and effect. Immigration has not driven up house prices; that was caused by the Thatcher government in the 1980s when she opened up the housing market to the speculation and gambling of the financial sector. This is what caused the 'housing bubble' which eventually led to sub-prime etc.

Immigrants were able to come here in large numbers because native Britons could no longer afford to take low paying jobs - because it wouldn't be enough to pay for their huge mortgages. They were simply filling an opening in the market.

If you want to reduce immigration, look to the cause of most of our problems - income inequality.
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06:24 PM on 01/23/2013
Spot on johnjohn. The EU and its free movement policies have had a disastrous effect on the employment prospects, wages and living standards of working people in this country. Millions of EU economic migrants have pushed the wages of unskilled and semiskilled workers down and housing costs up. Those who argue otherwise must believe the laws of supply and demand in the labour and housing markets have been suspended just for the UK! And of course, the continuous supply of cheap labour has helped the mega-rich to increase their fortunes beyond their wildest dreams .....faved and fanned.
01:48 PM on 01/23/2013
This poll's result was determined beforehand in order to browbeat the undecided into supporting the message peddled by proponents of the failing EUSSR.

Does anyone really believe these polls anymore? They must be conducted in the foyer of the Guardian!

Those that aren't vulnerable to state media inculcation, realize that if we are to have a real democracy then these anti democratic EU processes have to be halted with an OUT VOTE!
03:05 PM on 01/23/2013
Have you got any evidence what-so-ever for those rather substantial claims, or, as I unfortunately suspect you might be, simply unhappy that the results of this poll don't fit your narrative?
05:30 PM on 01/23/2013
Polls can be manipulated, if you believe them you'll believe anything.
04:50 PM on 01/23/2013
When this same poll was previously favouring exit, the extreme right were trumpeting it as proof positive for their position. Now it is favouring staying, you are saying that it cannot be believed.
01:17 PM on 01/23/2013
We all now call this the EU, I remember when Britain joined it was known as the the Common Market a trading place for European countries without barriers, now as the EU "European Union" I can not remember being asked if I wanted to be in such a partnership,,,,,Were you asked ?

Common Market Yes....EU No !
03:57 PM on 01/23/2013
The people of this country have not been asked to pledge its support of the EU (EUSSR), Common market yes more than 30 years ago and a lot of skullduggery has gone on since then!!!
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12:55 PM on 01/23/2013
This poll is totally meaningless:

- YouGov polls consistently report much higher levels of pro-EU support than every other polling organisation.

- Peter Kellner, YouGov’s president, is a known Europhile as his numerous articles on this site proves.

- The poll was taken after a mass pro-EU propaganda campaign by the vested interests, eg Branson, Sorrell, Heseltine, Clarke, Mandelson, Barroso, Van Rompuy etc.

- The referendum is around 4 years away. By then the realities of the EU’s freedom of movement policies will have become even more obvious to the British people.

- Our exports to the EU by late 2017 will be much less significant in line with trends over the last 15 years.

- The economic disaster in the Eurozone will result years of stagnation, it may even have collapsed by 2017.

- Cameron referred to the OECD report which forecasts a 33% decline in the EU’s share of world output by 2030. This inevitable decline will already be evident by 2017.
03:08 PM on 01/23/2013
None of those points makes the poll totally meaningless. Have you actually identified a flaw in the methodology?
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03:23 PM on 01/23/2013
Location, sample size, questions asked (leading/ neutral), sample randomness, reporting bias, date of poll (influence of pro-EU propaganda effort in the previous 2 weeks) …When one poll is consistently out of line with other (bigger) polls it should be viewed with caution. My other points relate to the likely impact of future trends on the actual referendum result…in my opinion of course.
08:47 PM on 01/23/2013
It doesn't say what they want so it must be wrong!
12:33 PM on 01/23/2013
The EU is an obese monster that has over grown and out grown it's worth. The principle of the single market was fine but just let the countries run their own affairs and not try to preach or interfere with their homeland basic rights and laws. It needs trimming and slimming and concentrating on the job in hand instead of welcoming every country that pops up just to try and create a superstate to fulfill the giant egos of the blinkered politicians. If we could turn back the clock to the original concept of trade and actually co-operation between states then fine if this machine keeps growing out of control and bleeding cash as it is at the moment.
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12:11 PM on 01/23/2013
I feel the problem that all the parties have is, that the polarised views in politics don't really reflect what a lot of the population think.

I'm happy to be a eurosceptic, but although I wouldn't be unhappy to see us leave the EU, it wouldn't be my first choice. All I've wanted to see over the years, was negotiations by our governments that put us first, and also create a realistic EU, not the wet dream Federal United States of Europe that the dinner party set drool over.

I feel that my view is more representative of reality than the phoney political wars.
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Ian Rennie
It irritates people that I'm a librarian :)
11:53 AM on 01/23/2013
This reionforces my view that many people who expressed support for UKIP, like many people who expressed support for leaving the EU, did so and so so in a "protest vote" manner. They want to register dissatisfaction with how things are going, they may not like Europe much, but when the prospect looks like it might be moving from the abstract to the concrete, it seems a little scary.

It's also the case that there are those on the left who dislike the EU who are turned off to the no vote mostly by UKIP being its champions.
09:50 AM on 01/23/2013
There will be massive propaganda from the controlled media of the New World Order spreading scare stories about what would happen if the UK left the EU.
I will be voting for us to leave and every person I meet I will convince to vote to leave by telling them the truth.
Pray to God the UK leaving would be a watershed which would bring this sick house of cards down.
They want one government, one State, one electronic money and total control.
To Hell with that.
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Ian Rennie
It irritates people that I'm a librarian :)
11:54 AM on 01/23/2013
Well, at least we don't have to worry about an EU tinfoil mountain.
09:26 AM on 01/23/2013
Pro EU bull *** no one believes polls that have an agenda & this one does !
10:17 AM on 01/23/2013
I bet if it produced a result you agreed with it suddenly wouldn't have an agenda.
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Ian Rennie
It irritates people that I'm a librarian :)
11:55 AM on 01/23/2013
funny how it's always the polls that you disagree with that have an agenda, isn't it?
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08:37 AM on 01/23/2013
After all that has been said I am changing my vote to UKIP. I have always had a soft spot for lost causes!
09:22 AM on 01/23/2013
How lost can you get?
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barrysturn
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11:33 PM on 01/23/2013
I was joking!
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07:40 AM on 01/23/2013
Stay in. End of.
03:40 AM on 01/23/2013
The BBC, Brussels Braodcatsing Corporation have been working 24 hours a day to promote the fascist EU and its death grip.

The polls should show what the media says sadly, thats how nations are brainwashed and fascism gets a leg up.

The Single market has got nothing to do with being in the EU, nothing. Switzerland and Norway do fine outside the EU and are doing betetr than ever in truth.

France needs to sell things to the UK as much as we need to sell to them so there will be NO change in trade wetehr we are in the EU or not.

The EU needs our £18 billion a year as the UK and Germany are the only major nations who contribute. France, Spain and Italy take out of the EU.

It is about money and power, and nothing else.
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Ian Rennie
It irritates people that I'm a librarian :)
11:56 AM on 01/23/2013
was "Braodcatsing" an attempt to combine all European languages in a single word?
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JakobHunter
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01:01 PM on 01/23/2013
"The BBC, Brussels Braodcatsing Corporation have been working 24 hours a day to promote the fascist EU "

Was that an Eastenders special?
06:36 PM on 01/23/2013
  The "Brussels broadcasting corporation", I like to keep you fascists on your toes.   Yes the propaganda is coming fast from the evil and the corrupt.    As the EU march to totalitarian power and the return of fascism gains momentum.