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Can We Trust Labour's Surprise 10p Announcement?

Posted: 15/02/2013 00:00

Ed Miliband's surprise announcement today - that he may now support my www.GreatGordonBrownRepealBill.com campaign - seems rather a half-hearted Damascus conversion. Only in 2008, HuffPost readers will remember, the Labour Leader said that abolishing the 10p rate of income tax for the poorest Brits was "fairer", and he voted that way in Parliament. Today, in opposition, his tune is different. Mr Miliband says that if Labour were in government "now" that they would partly undo this disastrous decision, and would also create a new homes-tax. (Mr Miliband was careful to stress that this is "not a manifesto commitment" for 2015.)

What are voters to make of this? In my view, what the public want to know is this: is this just jam for the Eastleigh by-election or is this a substantive policy pledge? Consider the record of the two main parties: Ed Miliband has whipped his MPs to vote against every single tax-cut for the poorest Brits that the Coalition has delivered; whether this is on council tax, fuel duty, or income tax. By contrast, Conservatives in government this April will cut income taxes for 25million people. Two million will have been taken out of income tax altogether. And, the poorest who benefited from the 10p rate under Labour (until they scrapped it in 2008) now pay no income tax at all, with David Cameron in Downing Street.

In some sense, this is a missed opportunity. Today could have been a real policy announcement from Labour, rather than a PR wheeze written on the back of an envelope. As it stands, Labour's suggestion would only mean an extra £34 a year for a family (according to Policy Exchange) and even their new homes-tax doesn't fund it all. That's not what Britain needs. Instead, we need a substantive income tax reform - as set out on www.GreatGordonBrownRepealBill.com - which not only give us a proper 10p tax-rate from £9,440 to £12,000, but also pays for it by redistributing extra revenues raised from the new top income tax rate of 45p.

Labour always attack my party about 'tax-cuts for millionaires'. But in reality, wealthy people are taxed more now in every year, than in any year under Labour (e.g. see the huge rise in capital gains tax). But Conservatives do need to do more. Famously, in his final act as Chancellor - Gordon Brown scrapped the 10p band in 2008, supported by Ed Miliband and Ed Balls. Overnight, this crushed people with a tax-rise of £232 annually: pushing the poorest workers even further away from a Living Wage. Real incomes have been stagnant for 10 years. Many small firms cannot afford to pay higher salaries; and the tax-credit system is complex and does not always get money to the people who need it. That's why cutting taxes is our only option for helping the low-paid. Already in parliament, and through the website www.GreatGordonBrownRepealBill.com I have argued that the focus must be on lifting the burden of taxes off the low-paid. Once we have lifted the personal allowance to £10,000, I think the next step must be to restore the 10p rate.

Some people will say, "Why not just increase the personal allowance even further?" To them, I would quote Nigel Lawson. He started off as Chancellor prioritising tax allowances. Then he changed course. He later said: "I wished to create a large constituency in favour of income-tax reductions. The last thing I wanted to do was to reduce the size of that constituency by taking people out of tax altogether."

That's why my argument is to bring back the 10p rate, on earnings between £9,440 and £12,000 a year to begin with - and then hopefully to medium and higher salaries in the future. It would be popular. It would be symbolic of this government's mission to repair our economy, and to help workers on the lowest incomes. And it would help to tackle the desperate stagnation in family incomes, which we have suffered from in the last 10 years.

 
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fredro
14:36 on 19/02/2013
'We are taxed more now than in any year under Labour'. If this is true, why? (a) Because we're in a recession - worldwide, remember; so don't rant on about 'the last Labour Government' - that only became apparent two years before the 2010 Election, and when there's a shortage, you have to save. (b) Whatever taxes there are, are the idea of one George aka Gideon Osborne and his view of how to handle the recession, namely concentrate on reducing the deficit above all else.
09:26 on 19/02/2013
The truth is that this is an insignificant issue. A £2000 10p tax band is almost identical to raising the threshold by £1000. Both reduce the tax bill for most by £200. My mantra is: keep it simple, so I'm against a 10p band.

It's just an issue dreamt up by politicians. No economist would bother with it.
11:25 on 17/02/2013
The real problem is that this government have failed on the economy, exports are down, and they are borrowing more. Germany are doing much better than us, but this government have made too many cuts, too soon, so no one is spending. Getting an economy moving is not easy, but it can be done, maybe this government should ask Germany how they are doing it?
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treborc
once Labour now none voter...
23:58 on 17/02/2013
Germany still has a basic working class industry structure something we do not have, coal mining in Germany is now in decline in the UK it's been dead for years. The German steel making is much bigger then ours with a modern out look, sadly ours is in serious decline and has been for a generation. We are now building wind turbines and Germany is building our Wind generation.
Brown gave the Dutch and Germany the billion pound contracts which would see British workers working.

Germany is where we use to be with a fairly stable working class.
18:34 on 16/02/2013
Halfon, your government has no such mission as you describe. Your government has a deep, abiding hatred for the poor. Every action by Duncan Smith, every action by Osborne, every vile statement by the frothing mad wing of your party confirms this.

Come to term with this. You are never going to convince anybody that you or your party have any credentials for supporting the poor.

you cannot stand the poor.
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treborc
once Labour now none voter...
10:40 on 16/02/2013
When Brown brought it down removed it call it what you like, what did Ball's say or do, did he say to Brown look mate you and Darling are wrong, nope he told us it was only right to help the poor old Squeezed middle. Today all that labour has done is to tell the poor old Squeezed middle class labour your friend, tells the poor old Middle class squeezed middle class Tory swing voter come to labour , Thatcher was great Tony Blair right and we are basically newer labour, Tony I beside me.

No thank I do not trust the little rich kid
16:31 on 15/02/2013
Here’s a question for the author, why if a politician reviews the evidence and decides they were wrong and should change their mind do you criticize them for doing so?

It’s this idiotic attack that makes far too many politicians refuse to admit that they are ever wrong, nobody is right all the time, and if you think you are then you’re already wrong, sometimes changing your mind is the best course of action.
Why is it when we demand people find proof or consider an alternative they always get busy on the proof while ignoring the alternative.

It’s also rather evident how all politicians cherry pick their data, while many people will pay no tax now, exactly how is their overall income effected, do they actually have more money, or is more of it coming from their employer, because in a year many people will get more from their boss but less from state assistance, so essentially the money is the same, the totals are the real matter, not where it comes from.
Sure the new program will be great for single people living alone making very little money, but most of the people I’ve met who will be effected are actually losing just as much is the benefit changes as they will receive in tax cuts, after you factor inflation in and the benefit change over they’ll be worse off.
But then hey, I’m looking at the entirety, not just a single aspect.
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hearthammer
If left is right and right is wrong, decide!
11:52 on 15/02/2013
Well, since Labour are just the slightly left wing of the Tories, no, you can't trust them!
11:02 on 15/02/2013
Can we trust any MP these days. Robert spent nearly ten thousand pounds on expenses, including £329 on office furniture, £92.83 on a Blackberry Storm2 smartphone and several hundred pounds on assorted stationery items and mobile phone contract costs for himself and staff?
16:54 on 15/02/2013
only £92.83 for an office phone... and hands up who has a company phone for support calls ..
and thus has to carry two around .. (mine .. and the work one) . so phones for office staff seem valid .. . you need to live in the real buisness world
09:00 on 16/02/2013
And the expensive drapes?
10:31 on 15/02/2013
We are over two years away from an election. It's a high priority but no-one knows what situation we might be in then.
10:05 on 15/02/2013
I guess you don’t want to trust Labour on this 10p band because you are a Tory so you would do everything to spread mistrust on this.
THe truth will come out if they are elected and that is an if but making such a bold statement as this on tax can not be forgotten so it will have to be implemented. It would be political suicide not to.
09:54 on 15/02/2013
I once had a friend, who was a compulsive liar. I got so sick of his lies. So i ended the friendship. But yet when it's votng time. I go to the polling station in all weathers. I even spend money on the fuel to get there. Then i place a cross, next to the name of someone who i know full well, will lie to me. I also know that this person will do the exact opposite of what the majority want. So why do we all put up with it. Where i live, if a seaside donkey represented labour. Then we would have a donkey in parliament.
17:07 on 15/02/2013
did the romans not vote in a horse ... or is that a myth
19:36 on 15/02/2013
I heard the story, but not sure whether it's fact or fiction. But in parliament there are, donkeys galore. I'm thinking of writing a book, about the adventures of Camochio. The man with the 12 foot nose, and growing by the minute.
18:36 on 16/02/2013
Close. Caligula appointed his horse Incitatus to the Senate. Electorate of 1.
09:13 on 15/02/2013
about the same as we can trust any Politicians promises -NOT AT ALL- there all a bunch of Narcissistic self serving liars
08:56 on 15/02/2013
More pressing i would have thought is the prospect of hundreds of thousands of Romanians & Bulgarians jumping on the benefits gravy train .
What they get in their own country's is a pittance in comparison here.
So if yous lot want to help working people then do something constructive about the never ending invasions .
ZEB
never fear the zeb is ere
12:06 on 18/02/2013
Please tell me where you got your information from? Was it Google, yahoo, or from the D Wail, this information must be important, or was from the one holds its air the telegraph.
07:32 on 15/02/2013
No!
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mrs w waugh
Hail Caesar We Who Are About To Die Salute You
14:40 on 15/02/2013
I agree.............