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Cameron's Self Inflicted EU Headache

Posted: 21/10/11 01:00 BST

He pledged more free votes on matters of conscience and promised to re-empower the House of Commons in policy decisions, but David Cameron's given himself a headache that he must surely now be regretting.

The coalition should be given credit for making good on increasing governmental respect for MPs, by creating a powerful mechanism for backbenchers to secure time in the Parliamentary calendar for them to debate topics of their choosing, and for empowering the Committee to consider petitions that attract over 100,000 signatures.

But unfortunately, all the good that government has done in this regard appears to fall by the wayside when the public tell MPs they want to debate Europe. MPs manage against real opposition to secure time to debate Europe, and government tells its own backbenchers' that they're not allowed a view other than the one they're told to hold.

On Monday, MP's will debate whether they're happy with our current relationship with Europe, whether they think we need to renegotiate our position within Europe, or whether we should simply pull out all together.

Clearly either of the latter two points would have serious ramifications for the UK, for Europe, and the economy of all member states, but a recent YouGov Poll revealed that 62% of people (whether pro or anti EU) think the public should have a say in an in or out referendum. And so at least 62% of the public might now be asking why the Prime Minister is so opposed to simply asking the public what they think, unless of course they're scared of the answer?

This reporter categorically takes no view on whether the UK should be in or out, other than to say that there are economic benefits to continued membership, and there are concerns over Britain's sovereignty as far as it exists in the current set up - but I hope my readers, viewers and listeners would expect me to be raising the points herein.

But nothing I have said so far in itself causes David Cameron any major headache. Simply put, it would have been virtually impossible for an in/out referendum to have been voted for by MPs without the active backing of government.

There are around 120 Conservative MPs who are actively against Europe, and believe a renegotiated settlement is needed, and around 50 Conservative MPs who would actively choose to vote for an in or out referendum. There are a tiny handful of other MPs who would consider backing such a motion, and so out of 650 MPs it was a mathematical mega improbability, and I suggest impossibility, that this motion would ever have been passed.

The EU debate then was nothing other than a sideshow to the Fox affair, the economy and now Libya, until for reasons entirely unknown to me, the PM decided to set his Whips to work, and use (at time of writing), a three line whip to force members to vote to keep things as they are.

Suddenly MPs are rubbed up the wrong way. Instantly eurosceptics and right wingers in the Tory party feel they are being denied a free debate, and they feel bullied and it's this factor that has complicated things needlessly for David Cameron.

Parliamentary private secretaries tell me they're "seriously" considering a pact to resign and rebel, and Downing Street are worried. All 40 odd PPS's have been summoned to Number 10 at 1pm on Monday where I'm told the PM will firstly urge them to back the boys in Brussels, and then tell them that they'd be compromising the economy and damaging the party if they don't play ball.

In the final analysis then, it seems likely that most, if not all of the unhappy PPS's will cave in to pressure. But wow, what a story it'd be if even a couple were true to their word. Michael Crick reported on twitter earlier that sources in Downing Street told him that rebel voters would be excluded from any reshuffle. Interesting eh?

There is a general feeling among MPs across the board that if the PM were to compromise, i.e. reduce down to a one line whip, that some might be more willing to help by for instance coming down with a cold for the vote - but for the PM, the best he can now hope for is some kind of deal in which he compromises in return for an obviously divided "unity".

 

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He pledged more free votes on matters of conscience and promised to re-empower the House of Commons in policy decisions, but David Cameron's given himself a headache that he must surely now be regrett...
He pledged more free votes on matters of conscience and promised to re-empower the House of Commons in policy decisions, but David Cameron's given himself a headache that he must surely now be regrett...
 
 
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09:39 AM on 10/23/2011
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12:21 PM on 10/21/2011
"empowering the Committee to consider petitions that attract over 100,000 signatures."
Humm… Hardly the dawning of real democracy though, is it?

"government tells its own backbenchers' that they're not allowed"
Phew! Good news for the lack of lunchtime abstinence, and those who expressed concern.That slightly sozzled MPs might not be able to deliver a cogent assessment of which way to vote following a debate.

"no view on whether the UK should be in or out"
Since that Assembly is so corrupt, that it was prepared to accept as binding the undemocratic press ganging of a member nation. What makes anyone believe they would allow Britain to leave under any circumstances?

"the PM decided to set his Whips to work"
Speaking of whips. Why not use them on striking jockeys, to get them to ride as required?

"back the boys in Brussels"
Certainly. Just as soon as they let the accountants back in.
11:10 AM on 10/21/2011
So we have a dictatorship in this country, where is the point of voting for an MP who has to follow the party line, this is not democratic, MP's should be trying to get the points of constituents across for the benefit of the people they're supposed to be serving, their leadership should be listening to the members not forcing them to do his bidding, if 62% of our population wants a say in the matter why should this be opposed by any party leadership. No-one ever voted to put our faith in government from overseas, they voted on trade agreements, since then we've lost our way through complying with rules imposed from outside this country, we've seen our industry dismembered in favour of European business, our energy companies are overseas based and government contracts go abroad while our companies go to the wall, we have no control of our borders and massive unemployment while contributing more to the regime than any other member, yet still have no say, Europe and the Euro is a failure for the majority here, referendum should be a given, not something to be constantly swept under the table by political leaders with ulterior motives.