Politicians are happy to mouth platitudes about respect now but were keen enough, just a month or so ago, to close down the youth clubs and other services that gave these kids some boundaries and some sense of respect at least.
I was 17 when the riots that swept Britain in 1981 broke out. Fast forward 30 years and we're dealing with a different beast in my view, the atmosphere's different, Rioters 2.0 don't seem politically motivated.
I am someone who argues repeatedly that real change, historically, only ever comes about from ordinary people taking to the streets and demanding it. The riots we're seeing, however, are a million miles from anything like that.
Watching video feeds of the riots, I see places I know, shops I've been in, streets I've walked down... and I see gangs of youths with bandanas, baseball caps and hoods tied tight around their heads to obscure as much of their face as possible.