FTSE 100 Makes Biggest Fall Since November 2008 As Global Markets Plunge

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First Posted: 22/09/11 17:48 Updated: 22/09/11 21:51

UK shares plunged in the biggest points fall since the economic crisis of November 2008, amid fears of a global recession.

The FTSE 100 Index closed 4.7 per cent, or 246.8 points, lower at 5041.6 on Thursday. The fall represents around £64 billion.

Markets also fell across the world. Germany's Dax and France's Cac-40 fell by 5 per cent, while in the US the Dow Jones has slumped by 522 points to 10,601, a low for the year.

The US Federal Reserve has warned of a "significant downside risks to the economic outlook" and in a process named Operation Twist had moved to keep US interest rates lower for longer.

But traders appear to have been unconvinced by the latest attempt to prop up the country's troubled economy.

Christine Lagarde, the head of the International Monetary Fund, has warned that there appears to be a lack of political "momentum and spirit" to deal with the problem.

"In 2008 there was a much wider path for recovery because the sovereigns had more room to maneuver, they could engage more in supporting the financial system, and they did at the time," she said.

"They incredibly ably manged to avoid protectionism to kick start growth to make sure the financial pipes that fueled the economy were working again."

She added: "They don't have as much maneuvering room now. they don't have as much munition."

But Speaking in New York Lagarde said that was not her main worry.

"What is lacking today, and I hope will be rejuvenated, is the collective momentum and the spirit that i saw at London G20 meeting...that was a moment when all leaders came together," she said.

Earlier on Thursday Robert Zoellick, The World Bank president, warned that politicians had "no excuse" for not acting to prevent a double-dip recession.

"The world is in a danger zone," he said. "In 2008 many people said they did not see the turbulence coming, leaders have no such excuse now."

He said "dangerous times call for courageous people" and Europe, Japan and the United States must act swiftly to address their economic woes before they became bigger economic problems for the developing world.

"I still think a double dip recession for the world's major economies is unlikely, but my confidence in that belief is being eroded daily by the steady drip of difficult economic news," he said.

Prime Minister David Cameron has put his name to a letter sent to French President Nicolas Sarkozy the current chair of the G20, to urge him to take action to tackle the problem.

The letter warns: "We have not yet mastered the challenges of the crisis. Global imbalances are rising again. External risks to the stability of our banks and our economies are reaching pre-crisis levels.:

It adds: "At the same time, the confidence of citizens, businesses and markets has been damaged due to the lack of visible political will: this in itself is holding back the recovery."

The letter has so far not been signed by the United States or any member of the eurozone, but has been agreed to by other G20 members including Australia, Canada, Indonesia, Mexico and South Korea.

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UK shares plunged in the biggest points fall since the economic crisis of November 2008, amid fears of a global recession. The FTSE 100 Index closed 4.7 per cent, or 246.8 points, lower at 5041.6 o...
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The Columnista
08:37 on 23/09/2011
Gee...thanks IMF. Putting out negative messages like that is bound to send traders into a spin. How about working positively, hand in hand with governments rather than using soundbite politics?
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wxw101
livs (low information voters)
05:59 on 23/09/2011
Don't you guys just love Obama... Isn't he the best?
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politicaljungle
Welcome to the Jungle
04:32 on 23/09/2011
No seriously, I did a research project about 5 years ago about the personal credit score. I dredged up Fair Isaac's white papers on how they calculate the personal credit score. Gave it to a mathematician, he laughed. Then I went back into the Congressional Records to see who was responsible for implementing a personal credit score. Turns out, it was Fair Issac. Congress kept throwing it out, calling a "poor pay more" economy - where the poor pay higher interest rates and subsidize the rich, based on their personal credit score. Lower the score, more interest you pay. Any questions? Until we get rid of the personal credit score, the whole thing goes in the dumper. Believe me, I tried.
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Miserable Swine
09:19 on 23/09/2011
The whole thing`s another Big Fat Scam. For example, credit ratings agencies - for Joe Schmo consumer in the UK - have some kind of esoteric algorithms that make it more or less impossible for anyone to guess how they might shape up. The result: adverts trying to get people to subscribe to monthly credit reports (which seems rather pointless now as taking out credit only puts one into more debt, and I cannot see how anyone in their right mind would want any more credit - unless it`s the `lender of last resort` pre-bankruptcy time). The credit ratings people have their `intellectual`(!) property to protect, but it`s another barrage of smoke that obfuscates the rotten core of the financial system from the `must-have` gadgeteer to the toxic asset pushers.
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politicaljungle
Welcome to the Jungle
04:29 on 23/09/2011
Next Headline: China installs new high speed rail line between London and Bejing.
03:06 on 23/09/2011
Those who are responsible for this mess continue to live in luxury and won't really be affected. At worst they might lose an election.

Meanwhile, your average Tom, Bill and Harry has to worry about losing his job, house and putting food on the table for his family.

Even though he has done nothing wrong, and worked just as hard as any banker, CEO or politician.

This situation stinks, and the politicians, CEO's, bankers and businessmen had better get their act together.

Once again the ordinary majority suffer for the actions of the so-called 'elite'?

America, Europe, and Japan, sort it out!!!!
02:31 on 23/09/2011
TBTF Banks must not be Under Capitalized Marking To Fantasy with No Derivatives Exposure.
01:36 on 23/09/2011
The phone hacking scandal has exposed the links between the media, police, politicians and the wealthy. This unHoly alliance has been pulling the strings on the world economy for the past couple of decades. News changed from facts to agenda driven spin. Ethics in business, politics and the police are no where to be found.

The greed is good gang wants it all. Society will be the worse for allowing this to happen.
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HamletsMill
All Myth is Astronomy
23:42 on 22/09/2011
Dear People of Huffington Post,

"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson."
-FDR

None of the leaders of the G20, or the Congress and Senate of the United States, or the CEO's of the TBTF Banks, or the IMF, or the World Bank, or the Federal Reserve System have any idea whatsoever what they are doing. Their competence in these matters is ZERO. If these people had any idea what they are doing NONE of this would have ever happened in the first place.

This has happened because the elite Ivy League Universities of the United States and the elite Universities of Europe do NOT teach economic history. (Full disclosure I am a graduate of the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania and I experienced this strange phenomenon first hand. Hence 40 years ago I started digging over my lifetime because I smelled a rat. The financial class that has owned the United States since the 1870's does NOT want ANYONE to know the criminal economic history of this country.

Take four hours of you life to get clued in:

THE SECRET OF OZ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swkq2E8mswI

ELLEN BROWN - WEB OF DEBT (1 of 5)
tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU0XiklHPMc

THE POSSIBLE 50 STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANKS SOLUTION (1 of 5)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2atnm1oTjJ8
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HamletsMill
All Myth is Astronomy
23:45 on 22/09/2011
LINK CORRECTION:

ELLEN BROWN - WEB OF DEBT (1 of 5)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU0XiklHPMc
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floodberg
Attorney (ret.)
01:13 on 23/09/2011
I wrote you a reply (I'm Wharton as well, worked at Touche Ross getting it), and I agree 100%; but apparently the mods didn't like it; I worked on the Carter campaign 1976 (top committee, you know who was there) and thought those things couldn't be done: when the Shah fell, I had to rethink a lot of things.
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HamletsMill
All Myth is Astronomy
06:08 on 23/09/2011
Good to find another one on here! But I was just an undergraduate Wharton grad with a B.S. in Economics. But I was in the Class of 1968. No one took the Wall Street indoctrination seriously back then. After I was honorably discharged from the U.S.Military as a 1st Lieutenant in 1971 I was radicalized for life. I never thought we would ever get this far but I am glad we did. Maybe with the Internet millions of people will wake up. The only thing that keeps me going now is that I met Kurt Vonnegut face to face in NYC back in 1983. The fact that this insane asylum produced a man life that still gives me hope! Mark Twain and George Carlin too! Maybe someone could still make it out of the 21st Century alive! Maybe! We are a nation of madmen led by madmen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYIC0eZYEtI

"Drink a highball at nightfall" my Brother!

Good to see another one of us on here!

There are quite a few around that left Wall Street long ago and never looked back.

http://dunwalke.com/catherine_austin_fitts.htm

http://solari.com//

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9dGHuRExiM
22:19 on 22/09/2011
I Belive I was Gada Bom Z's Vaseshall and Shoe IS on Diamond Foot, what do you think? I Bomb Seezer IS REAL! Tom Bomb on otheer Foot IS how other Doats see Doe and I was Vaydoe. Along with the Catastrawfick Reading, I claimed The One and Only V ! And John the Joap Tist I's Real ! TOM
21:18 on 22/09/2011
Like it or not, we all need to start saving everywhere we can. These last 3 years have been brutal with no end in sight.
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piceaglauca
The picture says it all....
21:49 on 22/09/2011
How do you propose people save when they can't make their bills now?

Do you not realize that a slowdown in spending will only slow down the economy?

This is only the beginning of a bigger meltdown.
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Miserable Swine
23:53 on 22/09/2011
I`ve been saving like a demon (no 50" TV, no fancy holidays etc). But saving money isn`t going to help much if it gets caned up by inflation and rising costs. The cruddy interest rate doesn`t help much either.
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floodberg
Attorney (ret.)
01:06 on 23/09/2011
My entire block was paid off 10 years ago (one exception, spec house; I'm the new guy and I'm from 1989) and everyone was retired.  Now half the homes have at least two adult children and 1-2 grandkids (due to foreclosures, being underwater, job loss, credit crunch, and some new jobs at lower salaries) and folks are trying to pay bills for 6 or 7 people (utilities, food, car insurance/payments) on retirement and maybe one salary.  It's not going to hold for long before those retirees run out of money.
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floodberg
Attorney (ret.)
00:42 on 23/09/2011
This sucker is at least another ten years; and that's if Congress stops selling to the highest bidder.  Without safety nets and public health crime/suicide will go much higher (it's already as high as I've seen).  When people get desperate (and economic stats mirror Russia 1917, as they did in Arab Spring countries) there'll be disorder and violence on a mass scale; the recent UK riots were only a start, and they have safety nets.  I don't think many can take a constricting job market and lower salaries, with higher prices, for another 10 years.
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John michael Adams
20:49 on 22/09/2011
it seems the Mayans were right. Remember, folks, 2012!
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catboycolo
I'll have the coffee, not the KoolAid
23:10 on 22/09/2011
If a republican wins the US presidency next year, I would have to agree. We Yanks are sacrificing our young at the alter of corporate greed.
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floodberg
Attorney (ret.)
00:45 on 23/09/2011
Obama isn't any better than those Republicans; look what he actually did rather than what he said, and he's a corporatist par excellence.  I was hoping someone would step forward and give us an Indy alternative, but no one's going to challenge a $1 bn war chest.  Most of the Indies I know are now willing to vote R if we can get a stuck Congress and buy some time...
20:11 on 22/09/2011
All together now 'Its the end of the world as we know it'... we are only part way through our own lost decade...
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Miserable Swine
20:12 on 22/09/2011
I think `lost decade` may be erring a little on the side of optimism. I`d say double it.
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floodberg
Attorney (ret.)
00:46 on 23/09/2011
MS, I think 15 yrs from the crash would be optimistic; so another 10 minimum; your guess is solid IMHO. I don't think people in the US can survive without safety nets, and I think there's going to be some serious violence.  Our crime and suicide rates are higher than I've ever seen them and they're not going down...and no one talks about that.
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19:39 on 22/09/2011
the world is divided in those who don't know, and those who know the others dont know.
There has never been so much mv-monetary mass in the world. What you see is a massive creation of e-money, as you saw in the 29 crisis a massive inflation in ticker money... Commodity traders, stock traders, etc. all in their e-money platforms are piling up profits with the jig-saw of currencies, commodities and stock prices, taxing all goods up, and detracting from the real economy a massive amount of money, while their lobby politicos, 'the ones that don't know' or know the others (the people) dont know, hide this massive redistribution of wealth from mankind to a tiny grroup of financial houses and speculators. It is to be expected a finale like in the 30s... when everybody is so destituted that they will finally 'know'.
www.economicstruth.com
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Valksy
civis mundi sum
19:24 on 22/09/2011
Oh goody, the gamblers in the market all wet their pants in fear and screw the whole country. The London rioters burned down the wrong buildings.
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piceaglauca
The picture says it all....
21:50 on 22/09/2011
Personally, I don't care if a few rich people lose their shirt. The average joe and watch the side show.
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catboycolo
I'll have the coffee, not the KoolAid
23:13 on 22/09/2011
you are missing the point. The rich sold off and kept their wealth. The average joe is taking it up the jucksie ( I'm a Yank, I don't know how to spell in British.)
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Miserable Swine
23:55 on 22/09/2011
A few lost heads would be good as well.
18:59 on 22/09/2011
Quick, print more money!!!