Insurance Bosses Back Cameron Over 'Compensation Culture'

Cameron Whiplash

First Posted: 14/02/2012 19:37 Updated: 14/02/2012 19:55   PA

The insurance industry has promised to pass on savings to customers after a cut in personal injury legal fees, Downing Street has said.

At a summit with leading insurers, Prime Minister David Cameron criticised the "compensation culture" and pledged to reduce the current £1,200 fee for lawyers on small personal injury claims.

Insurance bosses committed to ensuring the savings were passed on to the public. The firms also promised to challenge more health and safety claims rather than just paying out.

In a bid to help small and medium-sized firms, the insurance industry also indicated it would provide guidelines stipulating exactly what employers do and do not need to do to comply with health and safety laws.

Concerns have been raised by businesses that they are forced to go far beyond legal minimums to secure insurance cover.

The government and the insurance industry are to work together to develop ways of reducing whiplash claims and the £2 billion-a-year costs of compensation.

Number 10 said that options included requiring better medical evidence and introducing a speed threshold for claims.

The Downing Street summit comes amid growing concern about the 1,500 whiplash claims a day for even the most minor accidents, adding £90 a year to the average insurance bill.

Mr Cameron said: "I am determined to tackle this damaging compensation culture which has been pushing up premiums.

"I want to stop trivial claims, free up businesses from the stranglehold of health and safety red tape and look at ways we can bring costs down.

"The insurance industry plays such an important part in all our lives - it is there to help when we are at our most vulnerable and at greatest need. But I want to ensure that we all do what we can to help people through this difficult time."

Otto Thoresen, director-general of the Association of British Insurers, who attended the summit, said "urgent action" was needed.

"The cost of motor insurance reflects our society where it is all too easy to make spurious and exaggerated personal injury claims, where excessive legal costs can outstrip compensation awards and that tolerates the high levels of deaths and serious injuries involving young drivers and their passengers," he said.

"Urgent action is needed to tackle the surge in whiplash claims which now cost insurers £2 billion a year and push up premiums for all motorists.

"Tackling these issues will bring down motor premiums. Insurers are committed to this, but we need help from the Government."

After the meeting, Thoresen said it had been "very positive".

"We are encouraged that the Government recognises the need to tackle the factors that are driving up the cost of motor insurance, such as the reform of our dysfunctional compensation system," he said.

"We will be working with the Government to ensure that we make real progress as quickly as possible in tackling the UK's whiplash epidemic, and reducing legal costs."


But the Law Society, which represents more than 125,000 solicitors in England and Wales, accused the Government of failing to engage with it on the issue.

Chief executive Desmond Hudson said: "We wrote to the Prime Minister over a month ago, but it is disappointing that our offer to work with him and his Government in addressing public concerns over whiplash claims has been ignored.

"There are many options to address, from Government, Opposition, and others, which need proper consideration. Government should not be limiting itself to tea and cakes with one partisan set of stakeholders - the insurers."

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Norman Mitchison
06:52 PM on 02/15/2012
All savings will definitely be passed on, to their Swiss Savings Accounts.
06:28 PM on 02/15/2012
I've got two squadrons of pigs fuelled and ready to fly on the day when this happens.
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Fozwords
Abandon hope when you post on here
06:27 PM on 02/15/2012
Three words come to mind liars, liars liars. I will believe it when I see it happen.
06:25 PM on 02/15/2012
If you believe this you'll believe that the moon is made of green cheese stuffed with rocking horse droppings. I've got two squadrons of pigs fuelled and ready to fly when this happens.
06:07 PM on 02/15/2012
It pays to shop around> The main reason for these claims are these dodgy foreingn criminals and others who fake accidents or claim for Injury when they are not even in the car as it is locked up and parked
05:38 PM on 02/15/2012
WHIPLASH. I had a Whiplash claim and the speed of my car was zero. Yep, I was stationary as a car drove right into my rear end. My car was folded in half and my seat was broken. The car behind me appeared NOT to Brake. I already suffer a bad neck and this did not help matters. Guess what, I had an INSURANCE POLICY. So surely I can claim, after all that is wwhy we have INSURANCE is it not. Medical Consultant told me my spine had formed an S shape as I was propelled forward and then backwards at great speed, my HEAD doing same.
11:54 AM on 02/16/2012
rrichpigg, of course you can claim, this is a genuine case, I would assume reading the above report, they are attempting to reduce the fraudulant claims that go through on a dalily basis. Cash for crash for example, legal fees and doctors that take a % and fight for higher payments on a slight bump. My husband was recently involved in a car accident which was not his fault, the other driver, jumped out of the car immediately after the accident blamed my husband ran round the car to see the damage, jumped back in her car and called every emergency service. the fire brigade had been told to bring the cutters as she reported she was trapped ! Fortunately it was all on cctv .My husband needed was not at fault and needed a new headlamp on his car ! Had the CCTV not been present this could have been a costly and fraudulant whiplash claim.
05:36 PM on 02/15/2012
I switch insurers at each renewal.
The few occasions I did not switch, they had increased the premium at an excessively higher rate than inflation.
It is strange that after I switch, my previous insurers are always able to offer me a much lower premium, sometimes 20% lower, than their renewal quotation a year previously.
People who do not obtain a range of quotations and compare like with like at each renewal are acting irresponsibly and are encouraging high premiums.
04:08 PM on 02/15/2012
Car insurance is so expensive. I know of a lot of drivers who have never put in a claim from their insurance company. The insurance people have over the years got £1000's from the drivers. I think it is time for insurance companies to stop ripping off the public this is money for doing nothing. I wish someone would give me thousands because I might grow another head (well I might)
04:40 PM on 02/15/2012
BMC - In January this year I paid my highest ever car insurance premium - £226 for Fully Comp on a Volvo - the Road Fund fee is actually more than the car insurance and I can't " shop around " for that to see if I can get a better deal than the DVLA Swansea offer .

If you don't have claims you don't have high insurance premiums in my experience
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Fozwords
Abandon hope when you post on here
06:30 PM on 02/15/2012
Bullshit - I havent made a claim for over 15 years and mine goes up every year, my car is only four years old and extremely well maintained, might as well run a banger with third party for the good it does a genuine motorist.
03:32 PM on 02/15/2012
The last government was full of lawyers and Barristers,I am not sure how many are in this one.They put laws in place which screw the public and make the rich (Lawyers) richer. This lot do not care about ordinary people,look after them with money.We are all in this together, thats a laugh! Camerons nose just got bigger!...again.
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Fozwords
Abandon hope when you post on here
06:31 PM on 02/15/2012
The motto of MP's appears to be if elected will you promise to extend the financial gain of your colleagues and yourself at the detriment to your electors.
01:35 PM on 02/15/2012
its the goverment who introduced this culture from america.. they want the pro's but not the con's.. cant have it all ways! Well unless your a MP of course...
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Fozwords
Abandon hope when you post on here
06:32 PM on 02/15/2012
Heggs Acterly
12:28 PM on 02/15/2012
Dave is busing trying to creat a smoke screen with these meaningless news bites, but we can still see the unemployment figures through the haze!
11:37 AM on 02/15/2012
I'll believe that statement when my insurance premiums fall...
12:27 PM on 02/15/2012
Yeah, dont hold your breath!
07:28 PM on 02/15/2012
Likely I'll be blue in the face for a long, long time.
06:30 PM on 02/15/2012
If you believe this you'll believe that the moon is made from green cheese stuffed with rocking horse droppings,
07:40 PM on 02/15/2012
I believe our Dave will do his best for Britain's drivers in reducing the exhorbitant charges and profits being made by the wicked businessmen who contribute huge sums of money to the Tory campaign funds.... Oh my God, what am I saying....
10:56 AM on 02/15/2012
Insurance is a legal scam. If your car is worth 20K you pay a premium on a 20K item. If you write the car off the very next week they will tell you its only worth X and pay you a much smaller sum than the amount insured.
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Fozwords
Abandon hope when you post on here
06:35 PM on 02/15/2012
Yeah its like when you trade your car in to a garage they give you all the grief about milage no call for this model any more, them poof its on the forecourt 2 grand more than they gave you, if you get a friend to go and look at it the talk is, well its a very popular model and the milage reflects its age and you can see how well its been maintained, another bunch of potential MP's.
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Allyb999
09:53 AM on 02/15/2012
Again only talking to one side, this time the insurers. Of course they will complain about pay outs, they are in this to make money. Insurers could not care less about who they insure as long as they make a healthy profit.
06:32 PM on 02/15/2012
The simplest way would be for the Government to take over all motor insurance - then they could write the rules.
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Fozwords
Abandon hope when you post on here
06:38 PM on 02/15/2012
My ex boss had the right idea he turned the money, offered after someone crashed into him, down and demanded a car of the same age, same condition and similar miles, guess what, he got one, he said why should he pay several grand to get a car to replace what was perfect. A good win.
07:49 PM on 02/15/2012
Well done to your ex boss
08:41 AM on 02/15/2012
About time someone checked out just how many mps and ministers have a vested interest in insurance companies !

If you go back a little it was the insurance companies at the stock exchange that were ringing policies and caused the near downfall of lloyds, remember 3rd party ins then the ins companies decided to make a killing by raising the price of 3rd party to within a £10 of a full comp price
making it not having .

Cameron knows that the ins companies are in trouble they cant sell insurance in a recession and British ins is the worst in western Europe ,who wants to buy holiday ins when it dont work pet insurance same pensions are not worth the paper they are written on ,contents ins is being given away with buildings ins ,car owners are being offered a settlement if their car is damaged that comes nowhere near what it was worth .

Yes the ins industrie is going broke but its there own fault .

As for Cameron he is using the insurance issue as a Trojan horse heath and safty in this country is joke and we need the law to make sure we get compensated when we have an accident at work and on the road ,ins companies have their own investigators to deal with fraudulent claims ,we dont need to have all of our legal taken away just because the members of both houses have vested interests in insurance companies !
06:34 PM on 02/15/2012
The only way to eradicate false claims is to insist that every car is fitted with a "black box" data recorder.