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The Law Against Hunting With Dogs is Regularly Broken With Complete Impunity

Posted: 28/10/11 21:41

In 2004 after a long and bitter parliamentary battle, hunting with dogs was banned in England and Wales. The law makes it illegal to pursue wild mammals with dogs unless certain very strict conditions are met.

However in spite of the passage of the Hunting Act the truth is that in the countryside the law is being routinely broken. Dogs are regularly set after wild mammals. What's more this is not being done as a secretive furtive activity hidden away from the public, the police and the monitor's cameras. It is done completely openly and without shame. Moreover there is nothing that can be done to stop it.

The law is regularly broken with complete impunity. It is broken to poke fun at the authorities and to bring the law into disrepute. So confident are these criminals that they write in advance to police, politicians and campaigners telling them what they are about to do and they send videos to them afterwards. High ranking politicians insist the law is well drafted and clear, senior police officers write stern letters insisting that the law is enforceable and yet still they do nothing.

I know all this with complete certainty because it is me breaking it. I live on a farm near Exmoor North Devon and I keep three dogs. The woods hedges and fields around me teem with wildlife and on a regular basis I take my dogs out seek out wild deer. If we find any the dogs flush them out and chase them. This is completely intentional on my part and it's a very simple activity which I find pleasurable.

I have done this for many years primarily because I enjoy it, but also because wild red deer if allowed to congregate in large numbers can do considerable damage to my property. I coppice woodland and deer can kill whole areas of coppiced trees. Deer fencing is impracticable for me and would completely exclude the deer which I do not wish to do because they form an important part of the woodland fauna. It is completely natural for wild deer to interact with predators, they have evolved over many millennia to cope with wolves so it is ridiculous to think that three collies are a major problem for them.

There is an exemption under the Hunting Act covering the use of dogs to flush out deer to protect woodland. However it depends on absurd conditions. Including that only two dogs are used and that reasonable steps are taken to shoot the deer.

A recent report by Natural England called for deer to be managed on a 'landscape scale'. This is because they roam across a large area. For this to happen in my area it takes the co operation of many farmers and small holders. This co operation is currently achieved by the three stag hunts who together with stalkers manage the deer population. In no other part of England outside of the lake district is there a similar herd of truly wild red deer. They are present here because of the hunts not in spite of them.

The simple fact is that for me to shoot the wild deer I flush as they flee from the woods would be bad wildlife management and it would aslo be cruel. Deer should be killed selectively and not to comply with stupid laws. Shooting freshly flushed deer is cruel because there is a high risk of wounding.

It causes far far less suffering for me to break this law rather than obey it. Indeed I cause no suffering at all and my woodland is thriving.

There is a very simple way to dissuade the League Against Cruel Sports and the police from prosecuting me for breaking the law. I just tell them if they do so I will start obeying it.

 
 
 
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11:58 on 05/12/2011
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8575497.stm This is one of a million reasons why hunting with dogs is vile and barbaric
12:03 on 31/10/2011
In my opinion actions speak louder than words. If Giles is so wrong then he would be prosecuted. There are few other laws that can be broken so publically.
14:35 on 30/10/2011
Interesting statement from the above article:

"The law is regularly broken with complete impunity. It is broken to poke fun at the authorities and to bring the law into disrepute. So confident are these criminals that they write in advance to police, politicians and campaigners telling them what they are about to do and they send videos to them afterwards."

Is there any evidence of this?
19:24 on 30/10/2011
Hi Al,

I think that it would be the responsibility of LACs the police or whatever other body that wished to prosecute me to produce the evidence. I would be happy to assist however that really is up to them.

My aim is not to get prosecuted for openly breaking the law but rather not to get prosecuted for openly breaking the law. I do that by being completely open about what i do while explaining why the law against it is ridiculous. This is a highly enjoyable activity for me and I have found that this is the best approach to being able to continue it.

I've been very successful so far. There are people round me that do chase deer with dogs and mow them down with guns to prevent them escaping. LACS can do nothing about that because it is perfectly legal

They also choose to do nothing if people do the same thing and don't shoot them.

Ultimately that is their choice not mine however the fact that the police don't want to know as well does mean that I can carry on.

Out of interest do you feel it would be better for me to kill the deer my dogs chase rather than letting them escape.
09:48 on 23/11/2011
I think it would be better if you and the dogs just leave the deer alone.
14:33 on 30/10/2011
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Philip J Sparrow
When your work speaks for itself, keep quiet
18:02 on 29/10/2011
Correct me if I'm wrong, but your grounds for criticising the law, as it is, seem to rest on the fact that it inconveniences you (I'm not going to discuss your contention that your acts are 'pleasurable' simply because it is not something I can comprehend). But the entire premise of a 'law' is that it contains a command which restricts or demands a certain action, so that inconvenience is inevitable. Even taken 'in extremis' the law against murder inconveniences the potential murderer insofar as it dissuades him, however effectively, from pursuing his end goal and will ultimately inconvenience him further through punishment.

If you disagree with the law, you have the right to participate in the democratic process and present your argument for why it should be repealed. You do not have the right to disobey it.

In the words of Socrates: "you must either persuade it or obey its orders, and endure in silence whatever it instructs you to endure, whether blows or bonds"
18:21 on 29/10/2011
Broadly, yes. The whole thing would be a complete hassle.

It would be very inconvenient and expensive to have to employ people with guns to shoot the deer every time I flush them.

I also do not think it would be good wildlife management and would be likely to cause the deer considerable levels of pain for no good reason.
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18:34 on 29/10/2011
But these inconveniences only give you a right to protest the law, not to disobey it
19:53 on 23/11/2011
You mean there are some good reasons to produce a level of pain in an animal. The LACS says you are just a pest who likes to pretend he is killing animals. They are watching you I can assure you, and if you do try what you are bragging about, you will be arrested
18:22 on 29/10/2011
Socrates statement assumes that there is a state willing to make me obey the law.
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18:48 on 29/10/2011
No, it assumes that there is a pact between individual and state whereby the state provides protection,education and comfort to the individual in return for their compliance with the law. The obligation to adhere to a contract is as much moral as it is legal.
13:52 on 29/10/2011
The only reason you kill animals with your dogs is fun. Ripping deer to pieces with hounds is especially barbaric. We need to strengthen this law and people like Mr Bradshaw need to face very long jail sentences for their abhorrent crime.

Be aware Mr Bradshaw I have reported you to the Hunt Crimewatch run by the League Against Cruel Sports. They have invested £1M in tackling this disgusting crime and you will shortly be facing justice.
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17:06 on 29/10/2011
Please re read the article and post a sensible reply
11:40 on 23/11/2011
Why do you break the law? A simple question and I would appreciate an honest answer