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Is There Such a Thing as Being 'Too Nice'?

Posted: 26/11/11 00:00 GMT

Hm, is there such a thing as being 'too nice'? It's a tricky question. But I'm inclined to say a big, fat 'no'. Being nice is a very positive (although, granted, not desperately interesting) quality that, quite frankly, a lot more of us could do with possessing. Being 'too nice' - well surely you can't possess too much of any good quality...can you?

Saying someone is 'too nice' is like they're 'too kind' or 'too helpful'. Who dictates the scale of niceness or helpfulness? Surely being nice, or kind, or helpful is just that - you can't really over do it, can you?

But reality says different. And it seems more and more of us would rather label people who are 'nice' as 'boring' or 'annoying'? In fact, often just reading the word 'nice' is done so with a big yawn.

Let's take the most recent episodes of ITV1's I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here as an example. The other day, children's presenter and 80s DJ Pat Sharp made the bold declaration that ex-Emmerdale actress Lorraine Chase was "doing his head in" because she was being "too nice".

"You are too nice for me," he told her to her face. Then he complained to the rest of the group, "Lorraine is the nicest woman I've ever met and her holding a teddy is sweet but it doesn't work in here."

Thousands of us took to Twitter to write the brief but valid comment, "What a dick!" And whether or not this was all a part of Pat's masterplan to be chosen for Bushtucker Trials is neither here or there. The point is, well, did Pat have a point? Lorraine might be nice and sweet - but is her inability to say something controversial annoying to her fellow campers? If she was in your camp, would you pick her as your trustworthy pal? Or would you rather sit down with the likes of Antony Cotton and have a good old bitch?

The thing is, often the nice ones amongst us don't always come across as most popular or the most entertaining. And it's probably because these people don't spend all their time bitching about others. In fact, they'd probably much rather discuss careers, dreams, love and other 'boring stuff' with their mates than the latest gossip about who did what to who. They're certainly not the type to squeal 'OMG! Did you see her shoes last week?' (unless of course, those shoes were, er, nice).

And the fact is, we live in a world where our newspapers are constantly taken over by drama; our free time is (mainly) spent watching famous-sorts bicker and tell stories in the jungle/on a judging panel/at the High Court - we can't help it. We're drawn to the tawdry details; the naughty bits that should be kept secret; the bare, naked details. As humans, we seem to be programmed that way.

Going back to reality TV, I couldn't tell you how many any times I've been asked, "Do Tulisa and Kelly really hate each other on The X Factor?" or "What really went on with Frankie Cocozza?" Those same people didn't care whether Craig Colton and Marcus Collins were BFFS in the X Factor house (it's not salacious enough) or whether Frankie Cocozza was just a pleasant, shy 18-year-old boy in real life (it's more fun to hate on him). They all wanted to know the gritty stuff. The underhand stuff. There's no denying it - that stuff is just more interesting! So of course it makes sense that we think that way when picking out friends too...

But then you look at the lovely people in life. My dad is one of the most genuine and kind people I know. He'll do anything for anyone - at anytime. And when he's upset or angry, he keeps his dignity and will never fly off the handle. The result? No one would do anything to disappoint him, his friends adore him and everyone has a huge respect for him. He's just a massive legend actually - and it works for him. And having someone like him around is the most reassuring thing ever.

Carol Vorderman pointed out on Loose Women this week that she once had a friend who was so overly nice and sensitive that said friend spent all her time worrying about upsetting other people. The result was that Carol spent every conversation trying to assure her mate that she hadn't offended anyone - over and over again. Some people might see that as being 'too nice' but surely that's actually just being 'too insecure'? There's definitely a difference.

Basically being nice just takes a bit of natural compassion. Sometimes compassion may overtake you - and you end up feeling a bit used. Maybe others don't always notice what lovely things you do for them. But you know what? That's not why you do nice things - you do it because you know it makes someone else happy or helps them out. You might just do it because you have the means to or just the good thoughts to. And that's when being nice becomes a strength. Having the ability to make someone a little happier - or to make someone's life a little easier - is pretty powerful in itself.

So really, no, I don't think there is such a thing as being 'too nice'. 'Nice' might not always be the most interesting or the most exciting way to be - but it's certainly fulfilling and rewarding. If that's you, then take it and run - it's not a bad quality to have. And for the Pat Sharp's of the world...stick to hanging with the bugs!

 

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04:24 PM on 11/27/2011
I've two clear elements to my nature: on the one hand I'll risk my life for those I love and for the causes I promote, and I'll do anything for a stranger who needs my help, yet the other side to me won't stand for lies and a deliberate lack of integrity. People are threatened by goodness and moral integrity because it challenges our selfish instincts.

The way to be popular in such a consumerist culture is to whinge and berate others behind their backs in this clingy quest for approval from "peers", yet to simply refuse to be part of that coffee-hour bitching fest is the best way to challenge an increasingly acceptable form of spite in our society.

The absolutely best route to challenging cruelty isn't words, it's often just good example, and we all fail in that sometimes. Yet given that kindness has been shown to dramatically improve a person's sense of well-being I recommend practicing it every day - talk to the shop attendant, smile at the postman, thank the bus driver...costs you nothing and you'll feel great and they'll feel great.

Put love out there and it'll come back. Challenge hateful people and hatred will crumble. It's a two-pronged attack!
07:16 PM on 11/27/2011
Yes, l agree with everything you say, and leading by example is the ONLY way to teach,
actions speak louder than words!
07:31 PM on 11/27/2011
As a Catholic, one of my heroes (apart from Bobby Kennedy) has always been the amazing Albert Schweitzer. Schweitzer once said that to lead by example isn't *an* option but *the only* option.

Pax,

David.
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10:49 AM on 11/27/2011
I take the view that what goes round comes around. Try to be as good a person as you can be.
08:33 PM on 11/26/2011
I cant remember ever doing anyone a "bad turn", I've handed money out like confetti, I've driven hundreds of miles to get friends out of situations, I've gotten others jobs alongside me, I've walked around pubs and clubs collecting for friends so they could get to see a seriously injured relative abroad even though I was myself broke at the time, in fact all kinds of good deeds to help others, none have returned the favour or even offered any help since I hit the skids, guess what, I'll be bouncing back shortly, and, I won't be doing no more good turns, there'll still be no bad ones but definitely no good ones, this sucker has had enough.
06:10 PM on 11/26/2011
"You can't be to nice!" That statement is a logical fallacy.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_silence) but I believe it whole heartily. We are relational beings and are not innately loners. Relational experiences provide most people with their primary source of happieness>
04:30 PM on 11/27/2011
"logical fallacy" - you're either a Catholic like myself or just randomly inspired.

Either way, we salute you.
10:38 AM on 11/26/2011
"We're drawn to the tawdry details; the naughty bits that should be kept secret; the bare, naked details. As humans, we seem to be programmed that way."

This may be true of some people - those who watch I'm a Celebrity/Only Way Is Essex/Paris Hiltons New BFF/Signed By Katie Price shows or read 'celebrity' magazines or any tabloid newspaper. There are many people, however, who do not appear to be "programmed" with a desperate need to know every tawdry, ghastly and tedious detail of every D list celebrity's personal lives. This lack of "programming" could perhaps best be described as 'emotional maturity'.
04:32 PM on 11/27/2011
I still have no idea who Lindsay Lohan is. It's a badge of honour and I love telling friends this!

Much rather read Marcus Aurelius or learn Persian than read about some twit's escapades.

Everyone needs to turn the TV off. I barely watch it any more since I got out of the habit 3 years ago. Never been more productive AND at peace!
10:30 AM on 11/26/2011
However, l disagree with this part of the article "And the fact is, we live in a world where our newspapers are constantly taken over by drama; our free time is (mainly) spent watching famous-sorts bicker and tell stories in the jungle/on a judging panel/at the High Court - we can't help it. We're drawn to the tawdry details; the naughty bits that should be kept secret; the bare, naked details. As humans, we seem to be programmed that way.

l actually CAN`T STAND anything to do with celebrities, in fact l turn off the tv or switch channels, as l am not in least bit interested, in the " tawdry" details, my own life is far more important, and interesting, to care. lt has also become far too dramatic and all the false emotion that the producers on the x factor for instance try to generate in the contestants, and the viewers,just makes me sick, also l do not agree that we are " programmed" that way, humans have been around for thousands of years, tv on the other hand only about 70.
Here in the uk there is far more of this rubbish than in other countries, and l`ve travelled and lived in quite a few, it seems as though some brits don`t know what else to talk about, how about trying to talk about your interests, beliefs, hobbys , ect.
08:18 PM on 11/26/2011
its all to do with dumbing down the general public, even BBC news during daytime is full of crap and hosted by muppets masquerading as journos/newsreaders, during the night theres a real newsreader, though they still have limited subject matter and not full world news. Most of the other celebrity garbage is aimed at the young, to keep their minds off the true issues like unemployment and injustices perpetrated on them in the hope they'll not think for themselves and rise against the institution, especially if they can secure a place on one of these shows and actually be a celeb.
07:22 PM on 11/27/2011
The sad thing is that many in the general public are not only happy to go along with it, they actually seem to like it, brits are a strange mixture, reserved on the one hand, but gossipy on the other, and many are very aggresive, particularly when they`ve had a drink.
10:17 AM on 11/26/2011
Nice article, seriously it IS nice to be nice, even if we can`t always do it, but the fact is that everybody likes it when people are nice to them, that`s human nature, so it pays, l think, to try and always work on being nicer, we like it when people are nice to us and they like it when we are nice to them, it if we all tried it we might have a nicer society than we have now.
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02:33 AM on 11/26/2011
I've been told that I was 'too nice', and maybe there comes a point when you also have to be a little cynical about people, and not get your hopes up. You can put your best foot forward, and someone else can step on your toes and laugh at you for it. We should try, I believe, to bring our good manners with us wherever we go, just don't automatically expect reciprocity. In a civilized world, in a perfect world, in an educated world, maybe we can have some basic expectations of others, in this one...maybe not so much.  You can try, you can put forth the able effort and hopefully inspire others, just don't get your hopes up. Some people are just jerks, and that's putting it 'nicely'.
04:28 PM on 11/27/2011
You know what helps? Do what I did - limit your exposure on a daily basis to modern "media"; it's utterly negative and it promotes a solidly selfish world view. When I started doing this I suddenly became starkly aware of the true nastiness on our tv and in our papers and on Facebook etc. I've got a massive social life, a lovely family, tons of interests and my peace of mind has doubled in a year from just refusing to read constant "celeb" trash and murder stories.

Be aware of the global trends and the big stuff, but never read the "personal tragedy" events if you can help it.

You're not "too nice", you're lovely, and don't let anyone tell you to "grow up" or "get real". Love is more real than anything there is, and righteous indignation at the suffering of the innocent will always be the mark of a successful soul.

Pax,

David.
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10:41 AM on 11/30/2011
You're so right! My boyfriend and I decided to stop watching tv six years ago and it's been a revelation. We get so much more time to enjoy being with our friends and family (and to help them if they happen to need it).

What's more there is so much less exposure to that 'Daily Mail'-type hatred that can chip away at your view of caring humanity.