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Iran and the Bomb

Posted: 25/11/11 15:48 GMT

The latest report by the International Atomic Energy Agency about Iran's nuclear armament exploded like a bomb onto the world of Washington think tanks.

In two high-ranking round-tables, of which one is particularly close to President Obama and the other to the Republican Presidential candidate Mitt Romney, the topics of military intervention and regime change in Iran were discussed more openly and concretely than ever before.

Pessimists estimate that Teheran will have a nuclear weapon at its disposal in two months at the earliest, and in 22 months at the latest.

Optimists believe that for the time being Iran is aiming at blackmailing her neighbors and at restructuring the balance of power in the Middle East and not at a strike against Israel or Saudi Arabia. However there is the great danger that an impulsive purchase of nuclear weapons by several states out of fear could turn the region into a seething cauldron.

The planned attacks on the Saudi Arabian Embassy in Washington and the assassination plot against the ambassador gave great cause for concern.

Also President Ahmadinejad has intensified his aggressive rhetoric against Israel and the USA. In Israel intense discussions about a strike against Iran are secretly held. Even though a leading intelligence officer spoke publicly against it, the military option is taken seriously.

The decision depends on America's attitude and on the at least passive support by the anti-Iranian, Sunni powers of Saudi Arabia and the Emirates at the Gulf.

The latest news also encourages those who until now have advised against a mission to attack after all. The proponents in Washington of a military intervention are fully aware of the political consequences. However, they believe that a potential end with terror is better than certain terror without an end.

Washington is under no illusion that Europe could be incorporated operationally into military action against Iran. The French and the British have gone to the utmost of their strengths in their intervention in Libya. Germany is not seen as the country that actively intervenes in a military fashion but some moral support is hoped for.

However, even the most ardent advocates of a military intervention make clear that all the stops need to be pulled out prior to it in order to convince Tehran by means of economic sanctions to stop its nuclear program.

 
The latest report by the International Atomic Energy Agency about Iran's nuclear armament exploded like a bomb onto the world of Washington think tanks. In two high-ranking round-tables, of which one...
The latest report by the International Atomic Energy Agency about Iran's nuclear armament exploded like a bomb onto the world of Washington think tanks. In two high-ranking round-tables, of which one...
 
 
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08:09 AM on 11/28/2011
Lord Weidenfeld, being foremostly a publisher & having no foreign 'degree/expertise' shows his brazen loyalty to a foreign country, just like his US cousins by propagating economic/military options against Iran.
Sad & Pathetic ...
10:51 AM on 11/27/2011
Ahmedinajad and his gang are a menace to the region and an affront to ordinary Iranians who want civil liberties and are brutally repressed. But Lord Weidenfeld is stirring. Stopping a country acquiring nuclear weapons does not just depend on restricting access to highly enriched uranium, plutonium and technology. Many countries have those and choose not to make the bomb. Bombing Iran won't stop them. What might is what persuaded the late unlamented col. Gaddafi of Libya: a deal where they trade securiy ( ours and theirs) for the lifting of sanctions, trade and investment. It's not easy. Or quick. Or foolproof. But it's better than setting the region alight.
11:37 AM on 11/27/2011
It's crucial to understand the mindset of the mullahs in Iran. Men like Khamenei, Khomeini, Karoubi etc survived astonishing levels of political oppression under a corrupt, thieving Shah Mohammed Pahlavi installed by the US to knock out the first democratic leader in the Middle East - PM Mossadeqh. As far as the mullahs are concerned, they're the only people in the region who never sold out to the US...and they're actually correct to state that.

They're also the only nation in the region that did anything substantial for Palestine, a land of Arabs who have no racial bond to Persians at all.

But all this is of academic interest - the Russians, Indians and Chinese are Iran's major oil buyers and they've made it clear what would happen if Israel touches Iran. The Russians would no doubt ramp up their arming of Iran if America dares to get involved.

My guess is Israel is pretty much done for unless it backs down and speeds up getting out of the Palestinian territories; the region has changed forever and the world is tired of Israel now.
01:19 PM on 11/27/2011
It's nice to have an intelligent discussion about this. Agree on mindset. I flew into Tehran on February 1, 1979 with Khomeini when he returned from exile. Iran (Persia) sees itself as a great power. Western spooks have foolishly thought they could manipulate Iran both in the Shah's time and after. A rough parallel is the Chinese Communist Party. Iran sees itself as the Middle Kingdom of the Gulf. It's not about reason but about core beliefs ( however misguided) and self-interest. Unsavoury religious fundamentalism makes it more intractable. And the mullahs remain popular, not among the educated, but in the villages and barrios. I also agree about Beijing and Moscow less about Delhi. But you're right. Power is sliding from West to East and we're having a very hard time coming to terms with that. Israel: Recent governments have lost patience and lost the plot. But get into the mindset to use your phrase. When Israelis say " Never again" they mean it. They'll do whatever it takes. Even if, in the end, it's a Pyrrhic victory.
06:52 PM on 11/28/2011
Why get involved with Iran,as you say Russia,India and China are Iran,s major oil buyers,and with threats given to Israel if they touch Iran will and definately fall on deaf ears,as certain comments have stated above,if Israel thinks it is threatened then they will act accordingly and no power on earth will stop them.If Russia thinks it has the might to put one over on Israel then they will have to think again,because of the six day war and Israel wiped out three countries that threatened it,how long will it take them to walk over Iran.
My point is when Israel are threatened they make a decision and then act,and I think this is what the surrounding countries of Iran may be hoping for,because if Iran declares at any point in the future that it is declaring itself the leader of all nations in the middle east,They will get sick of looking over their shoulder as to what is coming hard and fast from Israel.
01:22 AM on 11/27/2011
I think the thing people like you need to get to grips with is that when a nation was forced into the middle of as divided a zone as the Arabic/Persian sphere it was bound to end in disaster.

Israel is armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons planted in its borders by the US. It has spent 60 years bombing its neighbours and murdering British Army personnel in horrific acts of terrorism such as the King David Hotel bombing in 46 by the terrorist group the Irgun.

Fast forward less than a decade and the US is running a coup to remove Mossadeq in Iran and replace him with a corrupt, puppet Shah. 1978 comes along and Iran throws off, finally, US colonial pursuits.

Iran has every right to possess a nuclear deterrent when Israel recently murdered over 1,400 innocent people in Lebanon alone in under two weeks in an aerial bombardment.

I don't really care what your professed humanitarian interests are in your various projects such as your "Strategic Dialogue" set up, your simple theme seems to be a pretty blatant one.

As anyone who has ever been to the middle east knows, this conflict is Israel's and not London's nor Washington's. Anyone professing otherwise is a dangerous ideologue scandalously ignoring basic historical and economic realities.

People need to read the Goldstone report and ask some questions of all this carte blanche horror.
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02:52 AM on 11/27/2011
Not to mention the CIA toppling of the democratically elected Iranian government. FF
10:51 AM on 11/27/2011
Currently reading Abbas Milani's remarkable "The Shah". I highly recommend it. The speed at which the Revolution fell on Iran was such that it took the world utterly by surprise. The only people not surprised were the Iranians who had had over 150 years of western interference and theft in their land.

It's really quite impressive to see the number of Americans now gradually coming to terms with the damage caused by the US in the middle east; it took us in Britain a generation to face up to the mistakes of our own empire.

I got an "imperial blessing" from the Shah when I was a baby, due to my Godmother being from an old family from the days of Reza Khan. I'm not remotely Iranian but grew up around Iranians and taught myself Persian etc.

As with the Arabs seeking their liberty today, Iran must seeks its own path, and I personally think Iran has every right to do with its oil whatever it wants. The west has never forgiven Iran for basically saying, "We'll be fine without you - go buy your oil from the Saudis and we'll sell ours to China, India and Russia". Iran today is far, far, far from being an isolated nation.
08:23 PM on 11/26/2011
If there is to be war with Iran then YOU go. There is no "we" in this. If you make a profit do we share it? No. But I you or the Wall Street cronies you are part of have a loss you want us to pay. It always "we" when there is a loss or a war. But if there is a profit is always "mine".

Notice how we are a "global economy" when it's time to sign trade deals. It's all a wonderful connected world. But then if there is a nation not playing the way you like it's suddenly a "dangerous world".

The fact is we should not support globalization because it is a dangerous world and free trade helps the transfer of weapons and technology to dangerous places.

But since you support free trade then you and those who supported free trade should be first to fight.
01:26 AM on 11/27/2011
Absolutely 100% agree. Go read up on his various projects such as the "Strategic Dialogue". If you can find a shred of direct, profound criticism of the actions of the state of Israel I'll be stunned.

This is Israel's war; it has nothing to do with me nor anyone else in the west. Iran isn't out to get us. If it were it could have done it two decades ago and carried on doing it.

We hear endlessly this nonsense about Iran sponsoring terrorism but we never see any proof. None. Just statements by "ex-CIA officer Mark so-and-so" and some random Mossad director.

If Israel wants to bomb its neighbours and murder Syria's and Iran's scientists then let them deal with it instead of some kid from Idaho or the villages of England.

Enough of all this.
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06:38 PM on 11/26/2011
Ellis from The Jethro Project notes that neocons are again trying to lure other nations into their madness. Moreover, that like the narrative for attacking Iraq, they are constantly flipping the truth. The second most attacking nation in the world is Israel and they constantly threaten to attack Iran. Their history of violence is unambiguous, they’ve attacked Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq and Syria. Israel must understand that peace is about compromise and not extremism. However, if Israel wants to terrorize Iran, they are on their own and they should be mindful that their intransigence would affect the economies of the West and West’s ability to continue to support them. See http://www.jethroproject.com/tjpIsraelsaberattling.htm.
06:22 PM on 11/26/2011
We have apparently learnt nothing from history nothing at all. It's all down hill for the US from here on out you can only be stupuid fir so long before it catches up with you
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05:41 PM on 11/26/2011
Where DOES HuffPo find these clowns?
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03:48 PM on 11/26/2011
In 1941 Iran was occupied by the British and the USSR without any problems.
Why is that such a "big problem" now?
The West is declining rapidly.
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06:09 PM on 11/26/2011
I am amazed you call that an 'occupation'. It was no such thing. Without the cooperation of the then Iranian government, the Persian Corridor would have been impossible.

Of course, it is true that one monarch had to be replaced with another to get that cooperation, but that does not constitute 'occupation'. That is just external assistance to the one side in a coup d'etat. That has happened often enough throughout history.
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07:02 PM on 11/26/2011
Because Iran is much more heavily armed now.
01:52 AM on 11/27/2011
Much much much much more.
02:22 PM on 11/26/2011
Milord.... Fearmonger
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02:21 PM on 11/26/2011
I don't think its a coincidence that evidence of Iran's nuclear bomb work dates back to a time coincident with Bush telling America that Saddam Hussein was within months of developing a bomb. Remember that? That was a lie, of course, but Iran had no reason to think Bush was lying. Iran took Bush as his word and was scrambling to create a ddeterrance to those mythical Iraqi nukes. From what I've read, after Iraq was invaded and no WMD (of any kind) found Iran ended its bomb design program.
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02:52 PM on 11/26/2011
thank you for a logical answer
01:33 PM on 11/28/2011
Any man with the words of Irishman Patrick Henry as his mini-biog gets my vote.

Out of Ireland have I come,
Great hatred, little room
maimed me from the start.
I carry from
My mother's womb
a Fanatic Heart.
-Yeats (naturally)
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Catriona
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02:19 PM on 11/26/2011
"President Ahmadinejad has intensified his aggressive rhetoric against Israel and the USA. In Israel intense discussions about a strike against Iran are secretly held. Even though a leading intelligence officer spoke publicly against it, the military option is taken seriously."

So who is this man?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Weidenfeld,_Baron_Weidenfeld

"Weidenfeld has served in many philanthropic capacities including Chairman of the Ben Gurion University of the Negev (1996–2004), Governor of Tel Aviv University, Governor of the Weizmann Institute, Vice-Chairman of the EU-Israel Forum, and Trustee of the National Portrait Gallery (1988–95)."

=LOL=
02:23 PM on 11/26/2011
Laughable indeed. Don't you just love Wikipedia?
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Catriona
Wha daur meddle wi me?
05:55 PM on 11/26/2011
I always Google these clowns, and am amazed at what turns up.
02:55 PM on 11/26/2011
Frankly it is time to start asking if people like Weidenfeld are not traitors to the countries in which they live.

They sure are insistent on sacrificing the lives and wealth of Americans, Brits and others for the benefit of a foreign country based on the concept of religious racism.

Perhaps we should start digging into how this chap became a "Lord" - probably reveal some other circles who sell out their country for personal gain.
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Wha daur meddle wi me?
05:52 PM on 11/26/2011
Ah, Dieter. He became a lord the same way almsot all life peers do. He made a lot of money in some business venture, and has some influential friends in politics.

As for him and people like him being a traitor, I just don't know. The 'T' word is a very serious allegation, not one I feel I know enough about the individuals to make. OTOH, I do agree with you on their strange willingness to sacrifice the lives of their young countrymen and women in countries like the UK and the US, to benefit their favoured belligerent and racist foreign country, a country to which the rest of us have no tie.
01:34 PM on 11/28/2011
Wow! Possibly the most honest and insightful post I've seen on Huff in months.

Barman, get that man a beer!
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So there I was, playing the piano....
02:16 PM on 11/26/2011
"Having The Bomb" has been a big issue since I was a child in the sixties. But the fact is that nuclear bomb technology is 65 plus years old, nearly anyone with enough determination and money can get a bomb. At some point Iran will have a bomb, to be proudly displayed to the world. As Dr. Strangelove said " what is the use of a doomsday device if no one knows about it?". Will it upset "the balance" in the Middle East? Sure, everything does, for them it's a way of life. Will life go on or is it a count down to destruction? Life will go on. Peace, harmony, respect and living with each other is not in the regions future. Iranian bomb or not.
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Seriously, it's time.
04:04 PM on 11/26/2011
Making a bomb that's deliverable, reliable and safe is rather more challenging.
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01:39 PM on 11/28/2011
And yet, given the actions of an Israel armed with nukes and having used white phosphorous against the 6000+ Palestinians they've murdered since 2000 alone (not to mention the 1,400 innocent murdered Lebanese men, women and children) one ought to ask whether Iran is justified in having the bomb.

I'd argue it most certainly IS justified in possessing it. If Israel wants to fight, let them use their own sons and their own money instead of British and American kids.

Iran is no threat to the west and never has been nor has never intended on being. Israel put itself in this position, and the US State Department let AIPAC tell them what to do.

We can't keep excusing the one mass murderer in the region while we harp on about the minuscule numbers (in comparison) killed in the recent events in Syria and Libya.

I say let Netanyahu go for his brother's revenge. And let the Israelis decide if they want war or peace. Nothing to do with us.