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We Need to Talk About Teenage Sexuality

Posted: 28/12/2012 23:00

In my recent blog 'Predatory Teenage Girls' I made the bold move of taking some responsibility for my under-age promiscuity. This was widely misunderstood by some readers as a rape apologist rant and endorsement of paedophilia. Nothing could be further from the truth.

My blog was not about the Jimmy Saville train wreck that has deeply affected many innocent lives. The recent rash of arrests connected to the music industry was simply a trigger for a discussion about my own experiences thirty years ago.

I was discussing the grey area of post-pubescent desire - with no talk of paedophilia which is a separate and disturbing issue of which I have no experience. My opinions and ponderings were on the differences in attitude and experience that the decades have brought since the 'swinging sixties' and 'free-loving seventies.' It peered into my old teenage world of sex, drugs and rock and roll of the early 1980s; a time when the word 'paedophile' was almost unheard of (we called them perverts), IDs were rarely checked at bars and music venues. There was less vigilant monitoring of teenage girls and no AIDS.

With all the focus now on that red line of 'age of consent', that small grey area of adolescence is being more militantly protected to the point that many young men, some only teenagers themselves are ending up on 'sex offender' lists for engaging in sexual activity with a girl only a handful of years younger than themselves.

I discussed my seduction of an older musician when I was still 15. I presented backstage at an over-18 club and did a very good job of looking like a more mature young woman. I did not look like a child, I looked like a woman. I am now 46 and see how dangerous my behaviour could have been but I own it and take responsibility for it. I would be devastated if a young girl ever did what I did to one of my sons and then pressed charges. My point is that at 15 a girl can have the mens rea to commit a sexual crime of entrapment. I know this to be true because I am guilty of it and know many others who were indulging in the same risky behaviour back in the rocking eighties.

Sexual intercourse before the age of consent is considered statutory rape. I protest that in the one example I shared, this was not the case. I resent the response from readers who demanded that I label myself a 'victim'. I was not. And by saying so, I do not trivialise other young women's stories of abuse. Some years later I was raped and I have deep empathy with other survivors of such terrible violation.

My blog was not intended to 'condone paedophilia' as one reader suggested. I was disappointed that my discussion of young women and their sometimes wayward and wanton desires was distorted into discussions of the rape of children. The definition of a paedophile is that of a person over the age of 16 who has a primary or exclusive sexual interest in pre-pubescent children (generally younger than 11).

Despite our heightened vigilance over our daughters' sexuality, STDs and teenage pregnancy statistics are soaring. What is needed more than anything else is education; earlier and more rigorous education. As the mother of five children, I am acutely aware of the need to warn young people of the dangers of predatory sexual offenders - both real and virtual. They aren't always dirty old men and more importantly, they aren't always men.

Every sexual encounter on this planet brings a unique set of dynamics and power imbalances that change and slide even between the same two people over time. To promote the idea that a girl is never, ever responsible for an irresponsible sexual act before the age of consent is a militant and dangerous stance to take, particularly when a 15-year-old boy will almost always be held accountable for any of his own misguided sexual behaviour. To suggest that a boy must take responsibility for his dangerous sexual desires but a young girl should always be cast as the 'victim' of sexual activity by an older male, is offensive and completely shackles the feminist sensibility. One young couple are still paying the price 15 years later, despite being married with four children.

With age and hindsight I can see the folly of my ways as a teenage girl but I was not a victim. I was playing with fire. I don't suggest that this is a common experience, but it was mine.

I am not a rape apologist and do not condone child sexual abuse.

The complex issues of consent and power imbalances must be discussed at great length with young people. The biology of sex and the pharmacology of contraception are only the tip of the iceberg. Sex while drunk or high. Age imbalance. Emotional coercion as well as physical. Regrets and recriminations. Rough sex. The unrealistic expectations of a porn-laden culture. False rape claims. We can't shy away from any issues. We need to provide our boys and our girls with maps to navigate the world of sex.

If we encourage sex education but refuse to look at all sides of the issue, then we are not being responsible.

 
 
 

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In my recent blog 'Predatory Teenage Girls' I made the bold move of taking some responsibility for my under-age promiscuity. This was widely misunderstood by some readers as a rape apologist rant and ...
In my recent blog 'Predatory Teenage Girls' I made the bold move of taking some responsibility for my under-age promiscuity. This was widely misunderstood by some readers as a rape apologist rant and ...
 
 
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12:55 on 31/12/2012
I was a drummer in the 60s, still a young teenager myself, and remember young girls (and older ones too!) desperately wanting to hook up after gigs, which was usually at someone's flat drinking beers for hours. I also remember late in my twenties a 13 year old hotel owner's daughter coming into my room during the night for sex. Until this Savile situation developed I have never thought much about it, but I now see it wasn't as funny as I thought it was. I don't think I deliberately caused anybody harm but I know I caused a lot of upset. Now a grandfather, retired, I see things in a slightly different light. I still want that protection for our youngsters. With a son and daughter I had a pretty middling view of teenage sex at that time, yes, we have to still protect our girls to a greater extent, but they need to learn about sex, gradually, gently, and not be put off by all the nastiness that surrounds sex.

I'd hoped by this age I would be no longer interested but the feelings don't wain. The major driving force in our lives, we could really do with a second chance of being teenagers!!
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19:11 on 30/12/2012
A thoughtful clear attempt to give a sane view. Impressive.
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20:54 on 29/12/2012
As it is a grey area and a very serious issue, the law should be as clear as possible. If it isn't, offenders will get away, especially those with the means to hire better lawyers.

The fact that you don't feel the victim doesn't mean that a law hasn't been broken and a crime committed. The law states that lawful responsibility is not required under the age of consent and any sexual act is therefore unconsented. Everyone should know the age of consent. What could be plainer than that for any adult?
21:43 on 29/12/2012
Just because the law states something does not mean it is right. In this case the law is trying to regulate a natural biological happening - ie puberty - without actually taking that happening into account. To look at it in context means considering the original age of consent and the average age of puberty at the time compared to what we have now. If originally the age of consent was 12 months to 2 years after the average age of puberty and yet now it is 5 to 6 years from the average age then surely we need to be considering this and asking if the law needs reforming?

Also we need to consider if the law treats sexes equally - how many 19 year girls are convicted for having sex with 15 year old boys? If the numbers are widely variant surely we had better be asking why because anyone assuming that it does not happen is a blindfolded fool.
22:09 on 29/12/2012
I agree about the law being questionable here for the very reason you state: sexual desires awaken at puberty, for a girl that could be as young as 9. But any expression of those desires with the opposite sex are thwarted by law until (in the UK) the age of 16 when these children magically become sexual adults and can marry with parental consent. It's highly probable that tensions are created by the frustration and repression of whatever desires are flaring up.

It's interesting to note that the age of consent in Spain is 13, most other european countries are 14 or 15. But I ascribe this to a somewhat attenutated sexual maturity in the UK. Our self-denial in the the UK has also won us the european record for underage pregnancies. On 8 Feb 2010 the Mail reported 63,487 under-15 pregnancies since 2002.

Not good. But while we're in self-denial and keep thumping law books we're not solving what appears to be a problem.
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11:31 on 30/12/2012
You may well be right. The lawful age of consent hasn't been static in the UK and could change again - though I doubt it will soon. However, the age of responsibility has little to do with the age of puberty or sexuality, this could be normally anything between 8years and 18years.

The point I'm making is the law is clear, as it needs to be, not "grey" and it's no defence to say the child didn't feel a victim or for the perpetrator to use a "grey area" as a loophole for their illicit preferences. The law is set to protect the minor. Adults are mostly deemed responsible and should know the law of consent perfectly well; they don't need excuses and a free pardon, they need to find another consenting adult to play with.

I'm not aware the age of consent is set differently for sexes. It is still an offence for a woman to have sex with a minor. There certainly have been cases I've read about.
14:16 on 30/12/2012
The law needs to consider making legal responsibility shadow ability to take responsibility as closely as possible.
At the moment the law will state that a 15 year is not able to make the decision to have sexual intercourse but is able to make the decision whether or not to abort if that intercourse results in conception. If we think a 15 can make decisions on major surgery why do we think they cannot make them on sex?
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07:06 on 31/12/2012
A most valid point.
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19:02 on 29/12/2012
Good article. It touches on how the persona of 'victim' is exploited by authoritarians to strip people of their individuality and control people.
15:36 on 29/12/2012
*sigh* yes I too have been a teenage girl I know how hormones feel but ultimately it is the adult in the relationship that needs to keep their wits about them and and not take advantage. Clearly Nikki you have issue with your past that you are working through but what concerns me deeply about this and the previous article is that we live in a world where rape and child abuse are very common and and people have all sorts of ways of justifying it to themselves and articles like this make it easier to do so.

when we're 14/15 we all think we look older than we are, as far as I am concerned I don't care how much coke someone has taken if there is any doubt they need to get a grip on themselves and get some scruples
18:13 on 29/12/2012
No it is not a case of we think we look older than we do - many many young women do look older than they are. Do you have friends, neighbors, or relatives with daughters between 13 and 16? Have you ever run into those girls when they are out with their friends away from their parents and not recognized them immediately because they look that much older? Or seen the daughter of an old friend you have not seen for a while who you know is 14 even as you take her for 18 or older.

I am a woman and mother and I have seen young women dressed, made up, and acting in ways that are quite simply terrifying because I know their real age - and I can clearly see what someone who does not know their real age will imagine their age to be.

Of course with adults in their 30s or 40s ultra caution and checking is reasonable to expect but when you have a man of 19 or 20 with a girl he thinks is only a year or 2 y
22:33 on 29/12/2012
I have friends who have daughters who are young teens, yet could pass for 18. But when you speak to them it's immediately noticeable they're children. I found it just as easy when I was 18 to tell when a girl was under 16. There are more ways to telling how old and mature someone is then how they're dressed and what make-up they're wearing.
13:31 on 29/12/2012
Reformed rock and roll groupie - oh please!
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DocManhattan
14:23 on 29/12/2012
Not sure what your objection to that is ... Explain?
06:32 on 31/12/2012
Who are you my teacher? I am surprised you did not ask me to do a short story of 500 words! If you cannot understand maybe it is beacuse your understanding of our language in the USA is as it always has been a struggle for you. - Oh please!
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11:15 on 29/12/2012
Excellent points. I believe there are a couple of huge cultural missteps we take in teaching girls about sexuality. One is that many teach girls that they won't have 'those' feelings unless they're in love and with 'the one'- which is utter rubbish and leads lots of very young women to mistake generic randiness for true love with predictable results. Since we also teach them that accepting what they're feeling will label them, there is a high tendency to not prepare themselves with birth control as that would signal to themselves, their partner, and the world that this was planned, not a cosmic meeting of souls which they simply couldn't control.

And finally, your points are well taken. Young women (and young men) often believe that they know exactly what they're doing and walk in with eyes wide open (sometimes while deceiving their partners about their age). Much like yourself I had an opportunity at 16 to hang out with some world famous men whom I idolized. I turned it down- but it was HARD. I knew enough to know that I wasn't necessarily going to be able to control the situation. The magic words, "I'm 16" were all it took.

The only point I'd disagree with you on is your statement that teen pregnancy and STDs are rising. I'm not sure about the UK, but in the US the rate of both are the lowest they've been since records have been kept.
14:12 on 29/12/2012
Brilliant point about girls still being led to believe that they will only get randy if in "true love" to which I will add we lead boys to believe they will be eager to have sex with anything and everything. Maybe we need a campaign to get people recognizing that girls get horny too.
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Justinjuice
10:18 on 29/12/2012
It is rare to see a woman taling about protecting boys and very welcome it is too.
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11:03 on 29/12/2012
I'm a mother bear and all my cubs are equal. And all cubs are my cubs!
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11:45 on 29/12/2012
Any room for another 'young' cub :-)
13:31 on 29/12/2012
Did you eat all the porridge then?
01:14 on 29/12/2012
Teenage sexuality must be managed in a way acceptable both to teenagers and to society at large. I suspect that most teen problems are sex related, that is, lack of legover. To overcome this problem two stages are seem logical: first to socialise teenagers so that they become attractive to the opposite gender and secondly for adults to facilitate teenage sexual encounters. The first may well prove problematical but could be used to highlight those who are likely to offend in future. The second is currently beyond our capacity to contemplate: how many parents are prepared to allow teenagers to have sex within a secure family environment? I believe this is where we are heading and the sooner we bite this particular bullet the better.
17:30 on 29/12/2012
>Teenage sexuality must be managed in a way acceptable both to teenagers and to society at large. I suspect that most teen problems are sex related, that is, lack of legover.


A good start would be to acknowledge that sex blossoms forth in people at puberty. Could be as early as 9, or as late as 15. It can't be reversed. Strange urges stir in our bodies, male and female alike. To then manage this increasingly simmering sexuality (as you put it and it seems a good term for it) is how to suppress these urges or enforce abstinence until such times as society consents that sex can occur. How you do that without drugs or religion, I don't know. How do you do it without invoking the forbidden fruit effect?

I number among friends a guy whose parents were so oppressive about any sexual act, thought and word that he had a nervous breakdown at the age of about 14, convinced that a wet dream was a visit by some she-devil to consign his soul to hell. It took him years to develop anythink like a healthy attitude towards sex. I very much doubt he is/was alone. I'm sincerely glad I had a more permissive upbringing!
22:17 on 28/12/2012
There still seems to be this pervading idea of the helpless innocent female and the predatory evil male. When are people going to wake up to the fact that girls can be as sexually driven as boys - and that sexual drive is hugely influenced by age. With apologies for being crude the fact is that a teen males drive is physically obvious while a teen girls is not even though it may be stronger. When people cannot see a teen girls physical desire they fool themselves into thinking it does not exist - I promise you it does. Hell go back 20 something years and if a certain teacher had not been totally professional and married expecting his first child then the French runaway would have been me and the fantasies were not romantic but totally physical.
I am the mother of 4 boys and I have tried and do try to give them as much information as I can about both the reality of dealing with physical drives and the way the law sees things they consider harmless (sexting for instance) or have not even thought about. However at the end of the day I live in fear of one of them being declared a monster for something that would see them declared a victim if they were the opposite sex.
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22:55 on 28/12/2012
As a mother of four boys myself, that all totally resonates with me. The victim/monster paradigm has to shift! And the whole teen 'sexting' thing poses formidable challenges.
23:19 on 28/12/2012
To be brutally honest if the technology had been around when I (we) was a teen then I know I (we) would have been taking full advantage of it without thinking anything of it. I (we) certain do not consider myself to be a sexual deviant or criminal - the law needs to open up and have the courage to examine the subject fully and honestly starting with that nasty tricky issue of the difference between numerical age and physical development of sexuality.
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When I saw her I marveled greatly.
17:43 on 31/12/2012
It isn't stronger. Not by a long shot.
17:53 on 31/12/2012
Your evidence please
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21:39 on 28/12/2012
Please post a better photo. Do you still like older men?
21:18 on 28/12/2012
The laws are there to try to protect vulnerable young women such as you were as a teenager. They did not work in your case.
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chrisalexthomas
22:54 on 28/12/2012
you missed the point, they wouldn't have worked, it's not a case of better laws would have worked better, she didnt care and did what she wanted.

it's REALLY REALLY weird how people just seem to lose the ability to read when it touches on certain subjects....
11:36 on 29/12/2012
I don't think I did miss the point. Let's try an analogy. Laws about stealing cars are there to protect the property of car owners by threatening punishment for those who steal them. Some people don't care, and steal cars because that's what they wanted to do at the time. For them, the laws did not work.
22:36 on 29/12/2012
They're also there to protect vulnerable young men, no?
21:03 on 28/12/2012
Your two essays would have been met with a mildly interested shrug in the Netherlands. Your two essays would have been met with a lynching mob in most of the US. In the UK you got some (unhinged) verbal pushback.

That about sums up the relative sophistication of the societies involved....
21:17 on 28/12/2012
Nonsense. Prejudiced nonsense. Be ashamed of yourself.
22:00 on 28/12/2012
Let me know when you are able to compare the age of consent laws, birth control availability for young people, in school sex ed curricula, and unwanted, teen pregnancy rates in the Netherlands as compared to what you find in the bible belt.
To many American, commonly known facts _do_ amount to prejudice....prejudice against denial, fundamentalism and ignorance.
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chrisalexthomas
22:55 on 28/12/2012
why should they be ashamed of themselves?

from my experience it's true, so if you have experience to put forward I suggest you do it
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Mette Poynton
20:01 on 28/12/2012
For some reason I missed your first piece - if I hadn't, I would have definitely commented... I will do that here instead.

You are absolutely right... on all counts!

As hard as that is to do practically, when teenage girls are invovled, it's important to look at both parties and at the big picture. Girls develop early and if they want to, they can practise the art of seduction at a very early age. This doesn't excuse any wrongdoing on the man's part... it just needs to be taken into account.

When the case of the school girl and her teacher who went to France was all over the media, all I could think was, "I could've done that". A relationship with an older man, running off when about to get caught... that's absolutely the sort of thing I (stupidly) would have done in my teenage years if I had found myself in similar circumstances. The fact that HE did it, the fact the HE didn't know any better, of course that's what needs to be look at... but calling him a predator? No. And calling it rape? It wasn't!

Thank You, Nikki, for blogging so honestly...
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chrisalexthomas
23:03 on 28/12/2012
in my area of the uk when I grew up, girls were quite flirtatious and often it turned into sex, not because the boys pushed them around, but just because it did.

when I was growing up (if you didnt realise I'm male from my picture) it wasn't unusual to hear things that girls had done with other boys and some of them were out of control but others did. I guess it's a case of whether your sex drive controls you or the other way around.

if you control your sex drive, perhaps it's not a bad thing, I mean, you have to learn, just like I had to, so it's probably normal that you do that, but if your sex drive goes out of your control, then thats obviously a problem because in that level of maturity, it's easy to make a serious mistake and end up paying the rest of your life for it.

I personally don't think it's paedophilia to engage with girls sexually when you are in the same age group, that to me sounds alien.....it's like a 15 female and 16 year old male, it sounds just like normal life to me....I wouldnt stray too far in terms of years before it could be entering that "danger zone" but to be honest, young people DO stupid things, it's how humans learn things, making mistakes...

I can just hear the angry keyboards clattering their responses right now....
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Tony Booth
12:24 on 29/12/2012
i think the main stream media were collectively surprised that the great british public were broadly sympathetic to the runaway teacher/pupil scenario. shows we can resist some of the corporate opinion forming that gets pointed our way. demonstrates too that the press attempt to be opinion formers rather than the reflectors they claim to be.
19:25 on 28/12/2012
Agree that both girls and boys need to be educated so that they can be equally responsible for their actions -- regarding sex and any other behaviours. It's about boundaries, self confidence, (self) respect and decency. I was a typically wayward teenager -- not very wayward, but a bit. There were a couple of occasions when I put myself into situations that, at the time, seemed slightly alarming (but now, as a parent, seem utterly terrifying). Teenagers are designed to push boundaries, to take humanity / society into new territories... as wise, experienced old farts, how much can we educate them? How much control can we wield at all? We need to do our best.