For eight years before becoming a stand up comic, I was a psychotherapist. I practiced in both the US and the UK and initially, my intention was to work exclusively with victims of sexual assault and domestic violence. And initially, I did just that, until the work quickly burnt me out, and with good reason. Rape remains one of the most devastating issues in modern society and I know firsthand the impact it has on its victims, both female and male.
Comedy was always my secret love and several years ago I made the career change and this year took my first solo show, Reverse Psycomedy, to the Edinburgh Fringe. I decided not to pull any punches when it came to tackling topics in the show - after all, therapy takes you down some dark and dismal roads of human suffering and anyone who's dealt with such issues knows that dark humour is often a way of coping with the unbearable.
I think the dark sense of humour you often encounter in the UK is both a beautiful thing and also indicative of a pattern of cultural coping: as a historical stereotype, the "British way" is not about emoting and showing vulnerability - but rather "getting on with it." Keep Calm and Carry On was not just an iconic war slogan, it's a mantra of a culture which historically valued that style of perseverance.
As a female comic who has dealt head on with the issue of rape, I debated whether to include it in my show this year. It's a hot comedy topic to be sure - between the controversy with Daniel Tosh in the US, and the countless anecdotes of male comics shoehorning it into sets for shock value, as illustrated by Tanya Gold's well-written piece in the Guardian at the weekend.
But what of female comics addressing it in their sets? To be certain, this can be done as badly as any male comic, if the intention is also to simply shock, or worse, indulge in the destructive notions surrounding rape: that women are at fault for it, are "asking for it," or secretly, enjoy the idea of it, ie the notorious "rape fantasy." Although even then, it's about intention - playing on the irony of any of these notions can be done to wonderful effect. Sarah Silverman is often the go-to example but there are many other female comics who have tackled the issue over the years.
Like any topic in comedy, context is everything, as is the experience and intention of the deliverer. To me, rape and violence against women could, with care, become one of those issues we take over as comics and turn the message around - perhaps in the same way that non-white comedians have had to tackle racism over decades, or gay comics the topic of homophobia.
I get nervous when anyone declares topics off limits in comedy, because I think comedy remains the forum for which we can reflect on our discomforts and failures around all sorts of issues.
Unfortunately, society goes through ebbs and flows of awareness and sensitivity towards topics, and rape is an issue which seems to have fallen slightly by the wayside in terms of both. Recent polls in the UK showed an overwhelming belief that women are in some way "at fault," if she is raped, and people who campaign against violence towards women are sadly marginalised as "overzealous feminists."
Not to make a sloppy analogy, but there was a time when environmentalists were marginalised as overzealous hippies, until increased awareness (combined with clever marketing for "Going Green") became the norm. If you recycle and reduce waste you're now just doing your job as a citizen. Perhaps awareness of violence towards women will increase and become a better staple in the public consciousness in future years. I hope so.
Bad comics will always do bad comedy, about any number of topics. In the meantime, the answer isn't keeping the topic out of comedy - it's doing it better.
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I believe that you can joke about anything in the right context. To make a joke about rape funny you have to be incredibly sharp, skilled and insightful. If you make the victim the punchline, and not the rapist or rape culture, then you just come off as a bully who can only take on easy targets. If you can't be subversive and can only reinforce the prevailing status quo then perhaps you should rethink being a comedian. Then again, Bernard Manning was very popular with some, so you could scale those heights.
I imagine there will be people on this thread going on about free speech but nobody is saying rape jokes should be banned, just that, if you do go after the cheap laugh, then don't go all offended when people exercise their free speech and call you the unfunny misogynist that you are.
This.
You're right, of course, I guess those were just things I'd be fascinated to hear a female comic talk about, but your article was perfectly valid, I think I'm just so frustrated and bummed out at the moment over this rape joke stuff, it's frustrating that straight-foward points like those you make above still need to be laid out, like the conversation just cycles and it doesn't actually get through.
FYI as someone's posted a very sad story above I'll just say: my intention is obviously not to suggest we make light of the topic. Comedy is tricky for certain - any number of things we tackle with humour can trigger a response in someone who's lived through the reality. But again, it's about intention, context, and who does the material and how. Comedy can convey powerful messages in the right hands. -Taylor
Nothing much to disagree with in what you said, the points you touch on seem obvious and common-sense (to me at any rate, suppose even this stuff is radical and threatening to men who so enjoy their rape jokes).
But a lot of things you didn't try address. Why is the victim still seen as the dirty party in rape, why are they so consistently blamed and undermined? Why is there so much virulent hatred for feminism in popular culture at the moment? What weight does the female voice carry in comedy, is it yet a friendly space for female stand-ups? As a stand-up, how was rape dealt with in the past in comedy, why is it so bad now, how do you think it'll be handled in the future? I didn't feel like you gave your opinion or viewpoint beyond re-stating things that have been said many times.