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Establishment of the Church of England Is Well Past Its Sell-By Date

Posted: 21/11/2012 12:50

We at the National Secular Society have argued for a long time that the establishment of the Church of England as an arm of the state is unsustainable in a modern, diverse society. Last night's vote at the General Synod to reject women bishops simply reinforces that opinion.

Although as secularists we would defend any church's right to make its own rules (so long as they are within the law and don't affect people outside its ambit), in the case of the Church of England it is different.

This is a church 'by law established', a status that brings with it many privileges that are denied to other denominations and religions.

There is no denying that the Anglican Church has had a profound influence on the history and development of this nation. But then, so did steam trains and we did not hesitate to get rid of them when they had outlived their usefulness.

The world has changed profoundly since the Church of England was created, and it is time for us to accept that change is needed. If we don't expect our railway carriage to be pulled by Stephenson's Rocket any more or go to America in a Zeppelin, then we shouldn't imagine that there are not better ways to order our constitution to take account of shifting demographics and progress in science and political thought.

Britain has become a society of many religions, but mainly a nation of no religion. This secularising process has brought into being laws that would never have been even considered if the Church was still in charge. Abortion, homosexuality, contraception, suicide, cremation - all were illegal for centuries on the orders of the Church. All have been legalised by a society that has been gradually rejecting religious dogma for over a century now.

Chief among these progressive laws is the Equality Act, which makes every citizen - religious and non-religious, male or female, black or white, straight or gay, disabled or able-bodied - entitled to the same rights. The Church of England has just set itself against this.

As an Established Church, its legislation has to be approved by our elected parliament. Usually this is just a formality, but with this decision there might be resistance in parliament, which has ruled through its own legislation that women must be treated equally and barriers must not be placed in their way.

If the Church of England wishes to continue with its privileged position in relation to the state, it must change its ways. But there are stronger reasons for its disestablishment - the first being that its supporters have voted with their feet and abandoned it in droves. It is now a tiny denomination, but still claims to speak for us all. With this decision it shows that it speaks for only a small group of conservatives who are out of step with the direction of society.

On Wednesday morning on the BBC Radio 4 Today Programme, the Archbishop of York, John Sentamu, defended establishment because "the Chief Rabbi says it keeps religion at the forefront of the nation".

Well, the Chief Rabbi represents even fewer people than the Archbishop of York. The Church of England has now shown itself to be an irrelevance, a nuisance and an embarrassment. It is well past its sell-by date and its establishment even more so.

 
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We at the National Secular Society have argued for a long time that the establishment of the Church of England as an arm of the state is unsustainable in a modern, diverse society. Last night's vote a...
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08:40 PM on 12/21/2012
Females can be priests within the CoE, they can't be promoted to bishops. So besides promotion opportunities, how else will 'not being a bishop' affect females?
The problem is that secularists look at the Church, as if its a business. So, to them it's all about equal opportunities and social quotas and so on. They miss the whole point of Church doctrine and the tradition of its adherents. All females joining the priesthood, knew of this. They could easily have chosen another career at that stage, if they felt the Church philosophy was so terribly against their views. But they didn't - why not? Why is there this big fight, now, by feminists within the clergy...
11:59 AM on 11/22/2012
As long as we have a monarchy it will not be disestablished.
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06:40 AM on 11/22/2012
Agree with this piece.

What has happened would be an irrelevance if the Church didn't have seats in the Lords but it does and so is very relevant.

My view is that if the Church still wishes to shape British law then it must abide by it with regard to equality of employment.
01:35 PM on 11/22/2012
Yes the biggest enemy to a religion is apathy were people do not believe that a certain type of religion is relevant because of set ideas. In the case of the Church of England this is manifesting itself in two ways decreasing numbers with people going to other forms of Christianity, or simply people no longer willing to follow a formal religion. The message is evolve or become extinct.
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03:24 PM on 11/22/2012
I'd rather the latter. It is my opinion that religion[s] have and are still [Israel/Gaza] the cause of most of the world's tragedies.
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06:48 PM on 11/21/2012
I wonder if the Catholic Christians in this country have any comments to make.... after all the RC Church is much wider and bigger around the world , why dont they have women bishops. ??
07:30 PM on 11/21/2012
Wouldn't they have to have women priests first?
08:15 AM on 11/22/2012
Clearly they would and I wonder why the vast RC and Orthodox churches do not/can not ordain women ..?
06:12 PM on 11/21/2012
Great post Terry. Speaking only for my self, I think it's an embarrassment for any educated person to take anything written in any religion's "Holy Books" to be anything one should concern himself/herself with when it comes to living their daily lives. For any modern nation to have an official religion is even more of an embarrassment, especially when the people of that nation have moved so far past the teachings of that religion. It is long past time that the British people rid themselves of this embarrassment.
05:52 PM on 11/21/2012
The only thing a religious person or Church should take into consideration is NOT " public opinion".. is NOT MP's opinions... but " BIBLICAL SCRIPTURE
The Liberal Minded and Secular Minded seem to be saying... " Because I don't believe in what the Church believes I think it is out of date and has had it's time " Very bigoted !!!!!
07:31 PM on 11/21/2012
Wow, the ones who want equality for all are now the bigots...when did I enter bizarro world?
10:46 PM on 11/21/2012
The idea that the bible is the only source of truth or right action is called “sola scriptura”. That view has been REJECTED by most Christians across the globe & throughout history, despite (sometimes bullying) conservative Protestant claims that it is the only way to be a true Christian. It came out of the Protestant Reformation in the 16th century in its battle against Rome. Fundamentalists love it. You can play some very nasty, cruel games with it, usually at other people's expense.

Anglicanism is not sola scriptura and is by no means a typically protestant church. Classical Anglican theology, since Elizabethan times, sits on a three-legged stool, attempting (and sometimes failing, as yesterday at Synod) to strike an intelligent (often nuanced) balance between Reason, Tradition and Scripture.
06:23 PM on 11/22/2012
you're dead right sherwood; and the Church is not a democracy over concerned about equality etc.....The aggressive secularism of modern society rules the media, but never the Church.
03:24 PM on 11/21/2012
Should this decision to discriminate against women violate the law of the land? ie equal opportunities in employment. If so, should the parliament and law enforcement agencies take appropriate action?
06:25 PM on 11/22/2012
but do you not understand: the Church has never been a democracy, it is meant to be counter-cultural. ( because its concerned with the spiritual kingom not the earthly)
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08:16 PM on 11/22/2012
This decision is further proof that the church does not act in the best interests of the majority of the population.