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Is Eric Pickles Deliberately Trying to Mislead Us?

Posted: 13/09/2012 10:18

Communities Secretary Eric Pickles has surpassed himself in an opinion piece for the Telegraph headed A Christian ethos strengthens our nation: Religion shaped the modern British state, and this Government is proud to 'do God'.

He asserts that "we are a Christian nation - and should not be afraid to say so". Can this ardent Christian have failed to notice that Christian affiliation and church attendance have been in continuing decline for nearly a century to the point that only one in 14 attend church on a normal Sunday? The BBC has let slip that the latest social attitudes survey shows half the nation now says it has no religion. And there is no sign of that decline halting. In such a tub-thumping piece, not to even acknowledge this scenario is disingenuous, to say the least.

He also tells us that moral leadership is offered by Christian leaders. It may be offered, but it certainly isn't taken; polls show that the clergy are practically the last people that those seeking moral leadership turn to.

And what a wonderful example we have had of moral leadership over same-sex marriage. The church vilifying homosexuals and the Anglicans seeking to justify their bigotry with a dishonest and self-serving submission to the Government Equality Office. And these Christian leaders are not only seeking to deny secular same-sex marriage - with no religious input at all - but they are opposing the possibility of optional same-sex religious marriage to liberal religious organisations who are anxious to have it. Polls show that those in the pews would also like the church to lighten up on this.

And then we learn that faith communities provide a "clear moral compass". We do not suggest that many people of faith are not moral, but they certainly don't have a monopoly of morality, and the clear implication is that those outside the faith communities are not moral, or certainly not to the same extent. That is a wholly inappropriate statement for the Secretary of State for Communities to make. And many will be concerned that "clear" is a euphemism for bigoted and doctrinaire.

And that brings us to the Coalition having an explicit "integration" strategy to bring communities together. To be fair, the Blair and Brown governments also emphasised religion, and addressed citizens primarily as a religious entities - for example in segregated schools or in community work. The idea that dwelling on the very issue that divides us most- religion - somehow brings communities together is the biggest lie peddled by these governments, and motivated by an obsession with promoting religion at any cost.

Having bashed the religious drum, Mr Pickles then turns his sights on secularism, which he cannot refer to without first adding a pejorative adjective, and indeed cannot mention without misrepresenting.

One of his two major beefs with the National Secular Society is our intervention at the European Court of Human Rights supporting the decisions of the UK courts in rejecting the claims of two workers wearing crucifixes. To his credit, he does acknowledge that our action is in support of his own Government and its position. According to Mr Pickles the government's position "should not be misinterpreted as supporting secularism: rather, we are resisting Brussels interference and gold-plating of what should be a matter for common sense." Could it just be that secularism and common sense have led us both to the same conclusion?

Clearly implying that these were the issues in the crucifix cases, Mr Pickles informs his readers that: "Banning discreet religious symbols for reasons of political correctness is not acceptable. We should challenge the nonsense that religious displays could "cause offence" and therefore should be hidden from view?" He certainly doesn't let the facts stand in the way. The cases were not about banning any crosses or crucifixes; there is no ban on crosses or crucifixes, political correctness did not come into it and no one suggested that causing offence played any part in the courts' decisions. The cases were about health and safety and jewellery, and the very considerable attempts by the employers to accommodate the employees were repeatedly rebuffed. They became even more obdurate as soon as their religious litigant helpmates at the Christian Legal Centre and Christian Institute came onto the scene.

Mr Pickles' other major bone of contention with the National Secular Societyhttp://www.secularism.org.uk (in his words the "intolerant" NSS) is the court case we won on Council prayers. He characterises this among the "long-standing British liberties of freedom of religion have been undermined in recent years by aggressive secularism".

All we did was ask the High Court to make a decision. But he is careful not to remind readers that the NSS made clear both before taking action and in the High Court that it was perfectly happy with (optional) prayers being said before Council meetings or a period of silent contemplation during them. That does not restrict anyone's freedom of religion, the manifestation of which under human rights charters is a relative not absolute freedom - so it needs to be balanced with the rights of others, for example the non-religious going about their democratic business.

He claims to have changed the law to "safeguard and entrench the right of councillors to pray at the start of council meetings should they wish". Not necessarily so. It is the function of the courts, not ministers, to interpret the law. Ministers have no power to reverse court rulings, and this Act of Parliament he refers to, the Localism Act, makes no specific mention of council prayers and received Royal assent before the judicial review was heard by the High Court.

In saying equality laws must not reduce established religion to the equivalent status of any other belief, Erick Pickles is clearly advocating a state where Christianity is privileged above all other beliefs, including non belief. Such opposition to a modern secular democracy undermines British liberties in exactly the way he accuses 'militant secularism' of doing.

It beggars belief that the Minister asserts that "Christians also have the right to be heard by policy-makers", as if Christians were routinely ignored and downtrodden. Mr Pickles speaks as a minister of the only country in the world to give bishops the right to sit in its parliament, and of the only country in the world where daily prayers (overwhelmingly Christian) are mandatory in every school in the land.

 
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06:54 PM on 09/16/2012
The Gay President of the National Secular Society writes an article condemning Pickles, well who would have expexted that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get a grip HuffPost let's have some originality not the blatantly expected.
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vividrick
I came, I saw...I had a cup of tea!
01:48 PM on 09/14/2012
"...A Christian ethos strengthens our nation: Religion shaped the modern British state, and this Government is proud to 'do God'. We are a Christian nation - and should not be afraid to say so"!

Whenever the ethos of Capitalism overides relgion, then it loses credibility. As I've said a few times on here, I remember Sundays being the 'day of our Lord', every religion just about preached this, and all the shops were closed because of that. Those few that were open were only till 2pm, and had certain breaches, like being against the law to hire videos! Now it's a complete turnaround, when people head for the supermarkets, malls & enetertainment complexes on Sundays. Sure religion has shaped certain pillars here from architecture, literature, art, moral-codes etc etc...but the modern thrusts of choice & consumer culture has eroded that. So I don't buy what Pickles is saying at all!
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Lykos
Nobody Never Eat No Fifty Eggs
11:48 AM on 09/14/2012
A little overfond of mistakenly declaring what the British are, is Mr Eric Pickles. Not only with this latest ridiculous (and easily disproven) presumption of this country as a Christian one - he was also the point-man on a "curry course" so that British people could learn to make this dish. He of course failed to notice that British people already *were* making this dish - they just happened to be of a darker skin colour than Mr Pickles recognised as British. Yet another political deadweight dragging the Conservative Party down below any public use...
11:09 AM on 09/14/2012
Terry Sanderson is president of the national secular society. No bias there of course.
11:04 AM on 09/14/2012
I agree with Terry Sanderson. Nothing must take us away from Britain being a wonderful diverse paradise which gives priority to all religions accept Christainity of course. Every effort must be made to attenuated the role of Christains in line with Britain's let them all in type policies providing they do not reside near me of course. This is after all another new liberal-elite fashion or fad.

I state this because Sanderson's article is totally in line with the left wing brainwashing of Universities since the late 1960's, and as such these viewpoints are well entrenched within the media, and if he hopes to get a job with the BBC or keep a job with the BBC then he must write articles such as this.

Finally, I wonder what Terry Sanderson would have written about a Muslim wearing some form of religious necklace or emblem? There can be no prizes for him to have stated that such a necklace is essential to their faith, and we must use lottery money such that all those who work in hospitals or on aircraft should be given one at no cost to themselves.
12:30 AM on 09/14/2012
Who truthfully cares what this man has to say outside of his brief?
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mmartini54
Roll on 2015!
09:34 PM on 09/13/2012
Mr Pickles sounds like a kindly comedy character in a children's show from the 60s, jolly, rotund, red nose and all. The reality, however, is a terrifying nightmare. Be afraid....be very afraid, children.
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Paul Wagland
Resistance is fertile
09:28 PM on 09/13/2012
Thanks you, Terry Sanderson, for another slice of reason. Pickles is an embarrassment to our democracy.
06:04 PM on 09/13/2012
First Warsi, now Pickles. Am I alone in thinking that the Tories are looking enviously across the Atlantic at the extremist evangelical elements of the Republican party and are trying to import some of that to the UK for their own benefit.
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fandabidozi
06:31 PM on 09/13/2012
That makes sense.
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mmartini54
Roll on 2015!
09:36 PM on 09/13/2012
Oh yes. Gove was a founder member of some ultra right wing UK/US alliance. This coalition reeks of it, and Cameron is pathetically equipped to keep it out of government.
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fandabidozi
05:46 PM on 09/13/2012
So,in one fell swoop he manages to alienate the majority of this Country.

Well done Mr.Pickles,very well done.
07:35 PM on 09/13/2012
The majority being?
10:29 PM on 09/13/2012
The majority of the electorate is neither Conservative voting nor regular attenders at a church or chapel.
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fandabidozi
06:50 AM on 09/14/2012
As figures show,those that don't see themselves as "Christians".
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Philip J Sparrow
When your work speaks for itself, keep quiet
05:02 PM on 09/13/2012
"The Government’s opposition to a European Court of Human Rights challenge on crucifixes should not be misinterpreted as supporting secularism: rather, we are resisting Brussels interference and gold-plating of what should be a matter for common sense."

How can a government minister mistake the ECHR (Strasbourg) for the EU (Brussels)? That's the kind of error you expect from people who are completely ignorant on matter of European law and politics, not someone in a position of power.
04:43 PM on 09/13/2012
An excellent article. Mr Pickles' assumptions regarding Christianity and it's role in society are (at best) Victorian. Too many Christian spokespeople appear to assume that religion provides a strong moral framework which - by implication, at least - is lacking in non-religious people. This is offensive and demonstrably untrue.
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Tony Booth
08:14 PM on 09/13/2012
too true, religion has been used for social control for centuries. it suppresses knowledge and initiative and stifles creative thought.
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jrt1101
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03:27 PM on 09/13/2012
Almost all the moral advances made in recent times have been made through reasoned intellectual debate and often in the face of religious opposition. Emancipation of slaves, universal suffrage, human rights, civil rights, feminism, legality and equality of homosexuality ... all secular achievements.

Pickles should be championing the role of reason, not putting it down.
04:12 PM on 09/13/2012
JRT101--Pickles should in all reason preach the gospel of Christ instead of involving himself with a secular lying machine
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jrt1101
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04:48 PM on 09/13/2012
That would at least stop him governing, which would be a plus.