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Manners Please! Romania Is a Country Worth Staying Friends With

Posted: 04/02/2013 23:00

Cabinet Minister Baroness Warsi made a half-hearted attempt on BBC Question Time (31 January) to refute the rumour that our government plans to actively discourage Bulgarian and Romanian immigrants from coming to the UK when restrictions are relaxed next year. But it was too late, the horse had already bolted.

Last week the idea crossed the continent in all its arrogant glory and Romanians duly responded with a dollop of humour. 'Half our women look like Kate. The other half, like her sister.' Under the slogan 'We may not like Britain, but you will love Romania. Why don't you come over?' the website gandul invited readers to contribute to a viral poster campaign enticing Brits to sample the delights of Romania. 'We have Dracula, you have David Cameron.' 'Charles bought a house here in 2005. And Harry has never been photographed naked once.' What else could they do? Romanians are used to coming bottom of the European pile. I know, I'm married to one. He lives in Britain, and is often told he 'sounds English' - lucky chap. For those back in Romania, life isn't as straightforward. Common obstacles include a 25% pay cut across the public sector, the lowest wages in the EU, endemic corruption and a shoddy infrastructure. Britain's xenophobic outpouring this week, driven by scaremonger headlines and Tory angst, is just the latest knock for a country that is desperately trying to find its feet.

Romanians are poor, but they are also well educated. It is a toxic mix. Believe it or not most don't want to leave their family, their friends, their culture, they do so because they are frustrated with the lack of opportunities in their homeland. Since the Revolution in 1989 its estimated three million workers have already left Romania. Britain was not their first port of call; more popular destinations include Italy, Germany, France and Spain (before the crash). In the last 20 years young educated Romanians have proved much more adaptable than their nation's sick, struggling economy. That this ex-communist country has already haemorrhaged huge numbers of people - so many, a Romanian politician wanted to pay them to come home - is 'good news' for anxious Brits. There might not be enough willing Romanians left for the predicted flood next year. But, anti-British campaign or not, there will be a trickle.

The idea that we can keep Romanians out by waggling our economic woes at a country where the average salary is scarcely 300 euros per month, (doctors are lucky if they get more than 400 euros) is deeply patronising. Our rain and recession can't argue with basic economics. Romania is broke, limping along on an IMF bailout; Britain is one of the richest countries in the world. Romania is lumbered with no democratic heritage, a mafia style political system and a closed-off communist past; Britain meanwhile boasts the 'Mother of all Parliaments' (and an unelected queen). Young Romanians look to the West not only for a way out but also for experience. How else does a fledgling democracy learn? Isn't that one of the great visions behind the EU?

Surely even Europhobic little Britain wouldn't want to alienate the second largest country in South East Europe? After all there is nothing we like more than hopping about on the military stage and Romania is a good point from which to keep an eye on the unpredictable Balkans (and has proved a willing assistant in Afghanistan and Iraq). It is also the last bastion before that vast, vague and unsettling space left behind by the disintegration of the Soviet Union. Not to mention the country's considerable economic potential. Romania boasts the sixth highest density of certified information technology specialists in a world, (Britain doesn't come close), and their plentiful primary resources make them closer to energy self-sufficiency than any European country other than Russia. They are friends worth keeping I would suggest. Indeed, with a bit of EU help Romania might even reclaim its one-time title as the grain basin of Europe. I know Britain's politicians revel in short-termism (the shimmering horizon rarely stretches more than five years into the distance) but surely it is in our interests to stay in with this tenacious, educated people and their extensive rich landmass? Jokes aside, they are quite keen to be friends with us. They speak good English. And I can confirm, their women (the thinnest in Europe), have a certain royal quality.

Tessa Dunlop's memoir To Romania with Love is published by Quartet Books.

 

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18:37 on 25/03/2013
Romanians RULE!!!
in north-east, we've got a 150 euros, salary per month..
and to live a month with that salary is impossible..
and somehow we survive..
i wanna' see a french dude, a spanish dude.. or a another dude of a different nationality who lived all his life with a minimum of 500euros per month manage his life here.. with 150euros salary per month.. and the rent 100euros, if you can find one that cheap... SO YEAH... ROMANIANS ARE OK... if we can survive here where the poverty is at it's maximum.. we can survive anywhere...
09:55 on 15/03/2013
Here is something to think about. The long minimum wage deal for Agricultural Workers in the UK is to be done away with.

In my opinion, this is to pave the way, to employ more foreign nationals.to work on our farms.

The NFU thinks this is great. Wait till all the gear go's missing, and they kick the Farmers of the land. It won't be such a good deal then.
20:31 on 20/02/2013
Strikes me that Bulgarian and Romanian are eager to join the EU, even though, like us, they will have to pay massively for the privilege. In the meantime half of the UK are desperate to see the back of the EU.... Proves, least to me, no one really knows what they are doing...
15:57 on 11/03/2013
Tou do know Romania and Bulgaria are already in the EU...
04:18 on 12/02/2013
Or they will put horse in yer tea.
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Outstanding!
22:30 on 10/02/2013
That's what you get for doing business with a gypsy.

Becareful who you trust to provide your food.

With the prison problem in America, you could be eating imported filet Americano.

There is just no way to know until it is too late!!
02:10 on 11/02/2013
Let's not blame the gypsies for everything.
08:28 on 13/03/2013
Politicians will do you far more harm than gypsies:-)
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16:31 on 12/03/2013
No getting away from it our government is corrupt
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Delighted to meet you
17:41 on 10/02/2013
"The horse had bolted"

That is so funny when we now know Romania was a culprit in the horse meat scandal.
17:45 on 10/02/2013
I tell you, Tessa has a high sense of premonition :))
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17:58 on 10/02/2013
Sorry coderange, I'm an Aussie- didn't get your tessa reference
18:03 on 10/02/2013
And if our horse tastes like french beef, just try and imagine what our beef tastes like ;)
06:56 on 10/02/2013
@WhatsTheStoryFolks & seandobson201

I think you didn't get it ... that was romanians' idea, but I can guarantee the british campaign addressed the wrong people ... the gypsies did not see the british posters and for them is not as good as for romanians, anyway :)
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23:39 on 09/02/2013
Well that confirms it then....thinnest women in Europe?.....Stay in Romania, we don't need the competition!
20:11 on 08/02/2013
I have a better idea,we will stay here and as Romania is so good,you stay there.
15:49 on 08/02/2013
Cynicism is certainly intellectually esthetic and sometimes charming as individual act. Public cynicism though is stupid and offensive.
All countries should adjust the basic education system by adding honour to their curricula in order to dilute greed and money making related cynicism. Is UK considering this? It seems there is a lot of room for it?

Remember Palestina, Yalta. It seemed great to play the God but it turned a kind of messy.
Keep in mind that you are now politically a colony of your ex-colony. A bit of assumed humility would do some good to Brits too..
12:54 on 07/02/2013
Tessa, that's awfully decent of you. It's bound to fall on deaf ears, but it's awfully decent nonetheless :) As a third-world, second-rate citizen (also an Oxford graduate, which I suppose places me in the category of well-educated Romanians), I've learnt to avoid interacting with people who are more concerned with my place of birth than with what I can actually do. If I'm not good enough for you, that's all right - there are plenty others willing to pay for my skills. Emphasis on skills, because I wasn't lucky enough to look like either Kate or her sister :D Unfortunately, being born in Romania doesn't automatically make you a looker. Nor does it make you a job stealer, a beggar, a thief, or a parasite draining precious NHS resources. It just makes you very tired of always having to justify yourself.
20:05 on 06/02/2013
As one of the economical engines of EU (and the entire world for that matter), UK has all the rights to ignore countries like Romania or Bulgaria. You don't get respect by whining about it or asking nicely. You earn it. In the '50s everybody was laughing at Japanese cars... nobody is laughing now. I left Romania 20 years ago but when I visited it recently I could sense a big difference in good even tough those living there don't agree. Romania's time to shine is near and they really don't need to go anywhere! A little bit more patience and things will get better...

I live between British ex-pats (in far, far away country) and I understand them. They agree that immigrants are needed for economic growth but they question whether it is worth losing ones identify (as a country and people) for the sake of it. Some countries do well while discouraging immigration (see again Japan). I think that it would be better for UK to leave EU, create laws to make immigration almost impossible (like Switzerland or Japan) and see how they do.
13:09 on 07/02/2013
The UK is not only ignoring Romania and Bulgaria, as you put it, by trying to discourage and restrict their free movement and right to settle anywhere in the EU they please, it is ignoring the EU treaties it ratified. A country's economic power does not justify it breaking the rules it has signed up to. Romania and Bulgaria have jumped through all the hoops imposed on them in order to join the EU, and have earned their rights as EU citizens, rights that need to be respected.

The economic, political, and environmental mess the world is in at the moment is partly to do with this idea that powerful countries have earned the right to break the rules. Of course the UK can try to alter the rules by renegotiating its relation with the EU or exiting, which is fair enough and their choice. But this idea that the most dominant gets respect, while the others will have to earn it by challenging their dominance sounds to me more like a pack of wolves. Fortunately Homo Sapiens have discovered that the rule of law is a better way of doing things.
14:01 on 07/02/2013
It is interesting that the British were the initial drive towards modern democracy, human rights, and lately multi-culturalism. However, they found out that it doesn't really work as they thought. Their worst "gift" is political correctness (yeah, thank you very much for that!), however they cannot put their money where their mouth is.

We can talk a long time about what powerful countries should do or "respect" but in realpolitik they will do as their interests dictate. All countries do that... some can do more, some less. Look at Holland how it keeps Romanian and Bulgaria out of Schengen just because they can. At least the British want to do it properly (like get out of EU), not hide behind technicalities.
16:20 on 07/02/2013
It is true they are one of the economical engines of EU and the world. But they did not become that economical engine in isolation, so that they have the right to ignore Europe and the world like Europe and the world has no contribution to their status ... it doesn't make sense to me. Sounds like that romanian saying : "The donkey has upset on the village" ...
15:11 on 08/02/2013
I would think that it is rather the mayor that got angry with the village... not the donkey. Anyway, it's their cross to bear and Romania cannot take decisions for UK. The fact that they are still in EU and grudgingly abide by its regulations tells me that the people unhappy about it are still in minority.
16:05 on 06/02/2013
As a Romanian I feel proud that UK politicians are afraid about removing work restrictions. And doing such a big fuss about it, they clearly admit that Romanians are better and cheaper than UK workers. Now, this is bad news to those UK workers that are not competitive enough on the work market and loose their job to a Romanian worker. It seems to me that all this campaign is just a tool to get votes from said UK workers.
The actual problems Western Europe is dealing with right now are these:
- Aged population with very few active tax payers to support them
- Too many production facilities are moved to Asia, Africa or Eastern Europe because of cheap labor and taxes, generating unemployment
- People's living standard is decreasing
So actually from 2014 UK will get for free Romanian immigrants that will pay their taxes better than UK citizens, because they are watched closer, they are young with a great desire to work and prove they are better, they are very competitive on the work market and the most beautiful thing is that UK didn't spend a penny with their education and training.
Will they improve the aged/active population ratio? Will they give a boost to UK economy being more efficient and creating a more competitive labor market? Will they be efficient enough to maybe keep some of production facilities inside UK?
I'll end my post here and let everyone draw his own conclusion.
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21:58 on 08/02/2013
The problem in this country, is too many people spend too much time worrying about what everyone else is doing. Everyone thinks freedom of speech gives them the right to veto people's right to privacy, and whilst talking about foreigners coming to take jobs, they themselves can't be bothered to even get out of bed
01:14 on 09/02/2013
True, and I'd like to add that if a poor eastern european can cross the continent heading to a relatively hostile place and manages to get a job and earn a better living than in his/her homeland, I don't see a reason why a brit could not do just them same. After all, they have a better reputation than eastern europeans and higher financial potential to, at least, start it.
But I suppose it's easier to whine on benefits ....
22:13 on 09/02/2013
Yes, but Britain needs to look after it's citizens. The UK is an extremely expensive nation to live in and people don't need any more economic squeezes on their income. You might be happy pulling turnips for pittance and living in a shack, but British people wont accept that, and nor should they.
16:37 on 10/02/2013
but then british people need to get up and pull the turnips themselves. And british people who own the fields should provide better working standards for those british people who won't accept living in a shack. Or do you think migrants explicitly request to be hosted in a shack ?
12:30 on 06/02/2013
Yes, let's accept us as we are (with our qualities an faults. And Britain is not the land of Cockayne or some Camelot or the new Atlantis perhaps...) Let's shake hands again an continue with our business as usual.

Britain should't be worried about Romanians. They can be put to good use if one knows how to.
00:20 on 28/02/2013
"Britain should't be worried about Romanians. They can be put to good use if one knows how to. "
For some bloody reason, that remark actually bothers me more than anyone else's about my nation.

And by the way, just to put things on the straight and narrow here:
I am a Romanian and I still live here. I rather like it here to be honest. Sure I have a horrible paycheck of arround 200 dollars right now, but I don't think about it that much. I'm building a career and if that's how it is, that's how it is. Lots of people are calling us poor arround the internet... a damn third world country... WHAT? Whilst I may agree that our government has drained us to bare bones, we're still pretty far from poor. And if you don't bellieve that, come to Bucharest and look arround. Sure we have the seedier parts of town arround, but then again so do Rome, Berlin, London and many other great european cities.
00:24 on 28/02/2013
Now that the "poor third world country" hogwash is out of the way, I will aggree that a staggering majority of our country's emigrants belong to the "not so awsome" category. But think about it: Excluding the over-achievers, these are mostly people that choose the easy road. People that turned tail and ran for the greener grass on the other side. Why don't all our doctors, lawyers, IT specialists and entrepreneurs just walk out? Because they've chosen to stay and face the music. Can you picture how it is to be the guy that marches on beneath the heavy heel of the world's most corrupt governing system? To be the one that pulls the weight of 10 others arround, whilst also taking all the punches, the sole retard that shovels the coal in the oven whilst nearly everyone on the train is partying at your expense... simply because you KNOW... someone has to work arround here, or we're all going down.
That's what it's like to be one of the honest ones in this country. I don't know how long it's going to take us to wise up and just leave like others did, but we keep trying to change things, and we just get lost in a sea of dirty sweet-talking politicians. Maybe another revolution is needed... but as a wise woman once said: "Ain nobody got time fo that!"
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11:11 on 06/02/2013
The issue here is not Romania as such, but political worries about being seen as soft on immigration. That view brought down the last Labour government and has proved to be a thorn in their side ever since, the Tories are simply trying not to make the same mistake.

I hate to say it, but it's nothing personal against Romania, whichever country was about to have restrictions against it lowered next would have received the same treatment. This is not about who wants to come here, this is about the native population believing there's no more room left for any more migrants.
13:11 on 06/02/2013
Hi Nathan,

We are just fine throwing ourselves outside UK or not coming (I can tell you people are not keen on coming here, anyway) if you throw out every migrant and do not receive any other one. That will convince me you're trying to solve a problem and make a better living for yourself with which I do not have the slightest intention to disagree with you or any other brit.

But, for as long you keep accepting thousands of refugees + other Non-EU(asian and african) workforce and GB is willing to dodge the treaties your elected have signed with us, we will simply not buy the argument. And yes, we will take it as a personal offence because that exactly what it is. Whether you, GB, care about the offence or not, may have an impact on whether we care about it or not, once the time has come.

A big mistake your country has already made in this matter is that instead of keeping it low profile, your abhorrent press thought is a good idea to make all romanians and bulgarians aware about their new opportunities, by lecturing them on hardship and bad weather ... what stupid a joke to attempt with countries who have 45 years under communism, -30 in the winter and +40 in the summer ...
17:14 on 10/02/2013
Summers here are mostly wet.
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20:27 on 10/02/2013
"Your abhorrent press". That made me laugh. Your English is better than that of many Brits on here.

I think our press, and a vocal minority of the people, give the Brits a reputation for xenophobia. In reality, anyone who comes here and makes an effort to interact/contribute/improve themselves is treated with respect.

Racism makes good headlines, in short.
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22:02 on 08/02/2013
I personally would much rather open the UK to people who have skills and qualifications that can improve out economy. I live in London and I know plenty of people from countries around the world. Every single one of them pay tax far in excess what Brits pay and buy houses which helps to push-up the property prices.
16:55 on 10/02/2013
Where does the idea come from that people from other countries pay more tax? Everyone pays the same rates. The amount paid is a percentage of earnings, and the percentage increases with earnings.
17:17 on 10/02/2013
Down side is the indigenous population get priced out of the market. Like we wrote the other day SGill most people commute into London.