There is a ruined castle hidden high up on a French mountain top where a group of Christians were starved, tortured, pummelled and poked. The Cathar community in Montaillou were as hardy as they were resourceful but still the inquisition got the better of them.
Some Christians in Britain may be feeling under siege at the moment. And whilst the rage and the zeal of The Atheists is not violent, it is certainly virulent. The campaign against Christianity and now Christians themselves has all the hallmarks of an organised campaign.
Last week the National Secular Society was gleeful in its triumph over the court case regarding prayers at council meetings in Bideford, Devon. The arguments for and against this practice continue to be rehearsed. It does not require Christians to hide for fear of attack. If anything, Christians are given a space and a voice to talk about the nature of prayer.
There is a tendency here in Britain to feel squeamish at that very word: tambourines, holding hands and vapid platitudes spring to mind. A prayer at the start of a meeting is a pause for thought, a moment of quiet to prepare for discussion and decision making where vulnerable people's lives may be further damaged, especially in these number crunching crises we're facing. It is unsurprising that there are prayers called Collects said daily in the Anglican church; they were written literally to draw people and all things together before moving on. Prayers aren't wish lists; neither are they batons with which to bludgeon everyone into submission.
The National Secular Society are delighted by the Bideford court case ruling; they say that a debate about secularism is a good thing. This is a worrying comment as they seem to be uninformed about the word on their identifying badge. Look it up: Secular means 'of the world' and not, 'against any suggestion that there is more to the universe besides flesh and blood.' History shows that the Christian faith has never been one of little folk hiding away in a sacred space wishing non believers would leave them alone so that they can all be holy.
Richard Dawkins is another atheist on the rampage. Those who identify themselves as Christians are now being asked to describe just how Christian they are: do you read the Bible on your own? Do you go to Church? What do you think about homosexuals? Such questions betray ridiculous assumptions about beliefs, that is that every one of us has a zeal equal to theirs. The nature of belief does not require a checklist. Maybe Richard Dawkins should write new 10 Commandments for Christians. I'm a priest and I doubt I would make the grade.
As a priest I am often confronted head on with dogmatic assumptions. Recently a man raged in my face that as a woman, I should keep quiet and take off my collar because the Bible dictates me to shut up and submit to men. Other times people start talking in hushed tones the moment I step onto the tube in my black regalia. It is always a fascinating experience and proves each time that faith continues to provoke and fascinate.
As a University Chaplain I work in the world serving every student and not just my own flock. Established or not the Anglican Church has always sought to serve everyone - of all faiths and none. Ask to see any parish priest's diary: nursing home, hospice, school governing body, crematorium, homeless drop in centre. It is quite likely that not one person the priest serves - yes serves - will know which church the priest comes from. Notions of 'us and them' is a lazy caricature.
The Cathar Christians on the mountain at Montaillou all died out but the ruined castle remains. As the Atheist Movement continues to fight against the voice of faith in public life here in the UK, Christians - and those of all faiths for that matter - need not batten down the hatches, but rather practice their faith and talk about it openly, unapologetic and unafraid.
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Jesus as he's been depicted would have been disgusted with the phrase "Church of England." Talk about mixing religion and politics! Can you imagine the "Church of America"?
I'm a christian who happens to believe passionately that ALL of us who hold strong views/beliefs should (a) have them routinely questioned and (b) we should be able to make reasoned "defences" for them, without at the same time being/feeling threatened. Yr views should not ever be "routinely condemned" especially not by Christians who suffer similar persecution worldwide. Sadly I have to agree with you conc some of my fellow Christians who do seem to take a 'high and mighty' position for granted. Just a thought, are you saying that Christianity is 'per se' indefencible? Or that the postion some 'high and mighty members' of the faith seem to take is indefencible? If the latter I'm in total agreement with you (which may come as a shock to you!!) - as it's not a defencible position to me at least. If the former I'm 100% opposed to you (sadly) but I would die - yes really die!! - for my faith, the faith which incidentally has fought for and got you so much of the freedom you now use to attack us with... What about you and yr atheism, prepared to go to the wire for it?? 'cos with so much intolerance about it may be come to it!!
The meeting. The meeting everyone gathered to hear. Say your prayers in church and in your home.
They most certainly should not let Muslims begin a public meeting with a prayer.
As to the Muslims.. Be in no doubt ..It's on their agenda...
Can you tell me why your prayers should precede a public meeting?
but i would suspect that your characterization of religion in the public sector is wildly off base
my understanding was that they have an official state religion, and that taxes go to fund that institution
No. It's a prayer.
Hence the problem.
"Those who identify themselves as Christians are now being asked to describe just how Christian they are: do you read the Bible on your own? Do you go to Church?"
Well, do you? We Atheists have certainly read your Bible.
"I'm a priest and I doubt I would make the grade."
The perhaps you should go back to seminary school, or read your Bible.
"As a priest I am often confronted head on with dogmatic assumptions."
Yes. We encounter those often as well.
"Recently a man raged in my face that as a woman, I should keep quiet and take off my collar because the Bible dictates me to shut up and submit to men."
Sorry about that, but WE didn't write the Bible. It's YOUR Word of God.
"As the Atheist Movement continues to fight against the voice of faith in public life here in the UK, Christians - and those of all faiths for that matter - need not batten down the hatches, but rather practice their faith and talk about it openly, unapologetic and unafraid."
That would be nice. Good luck with that one.
Indeed. Most British Christians are turned off by shows of public religiosity.
Um...it isn't?