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HS2 - Why Oh Why?

Posted: 09/01/12 05:00 GMT

Sadly the idea of building a high speed rail line from North to South is in the news again. The idea is to spend £30bn or so building a new line from London to Birmingham. This will cut journey times, and increase capacity.

There are three reasons to oppose this plan: money, time and capacity. The first is that it is very expensive. £32bn is about £1000 per household. None of the advocates of the rail line claim that taxpayers will see a financial return. It is a bill that many in Britain can do without.

£32bn buys you a cut in journey times of 20-30 minutes. Birmingham will go from being just over an hour, to just under an hour. The distance - and so the cost - means that Birmingham - London will never be core commuter territory. The time saved is primarily for business people.

In fact, a third of all the transport benefits turn out to be time saving for business travellers! The largest group of these are London based business people. Since fares will be the same on the new line, business people are being given something for nothing, while taxpayers pick up the bill (table 1 & 2, pp. 10-11). There is no reason in the world why government should subsidise business people to travel more quickly.

Third, the government talks a lot about capacity problems. Yet the reality is that the lines from London to Birmingham and Manchester are not, by British standards, highly used. The Office of the Rail Regulator records how many people have to stand each day on their way into London. Around 2,100 people have to stand on their way into Euston. That sounds bad, until we learn that 29,000 stand on their way into London Bridge, and 27,000 on their way into Waterloo. In fact, of the 12 London terminal stations, nine have more people standing than Euston.

Even if the number of people coming into Euston doubles, and even if all of those extra are on services with no seats, and even if we add no more capacity, Euston would still be less overcrowded than services to London Bridge or Waterloo.

The reality is that a new high speed train line is the sort of glamorous project that gets ministers lots of headlines, irrespective of the benefit to cost ratio. It is exactly the sort of project that should not go ahead if we are committed to evidence based policy making.

 

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Sadly the idea of building a high speed rail line from North to South is in the news again. The idea is to spend £30bn or so building a new line from London to Birmingham. This will cut journey times...
Sadly the idea of building a high speed rail line from North to South is in the news again. The idea is to spend £30bn or so building a new line from London to Birmingham. This will cut journey times...
 
 
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ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
11:31 AM on 01/11/2012
OK, so we get that you're uncomfortable standing on the train going into Waterloo every morning and evening.

I don't see much of an infrastructure fix for that, save for you moving closer to work, or lobbying the local London train services to get their act together.

The more pertinent questions are why the thing doesn't go to Leeds and Manchester now, and why it doesn't go into London via Heathrow, and connect with Bristol/Wales bound trains on the way. Amsterdam, Paris and Frankfurt all have high-speed rail connections. Link up to Scotland, and release all those domestic slots at Heathrow. Going to Glasgow? - 2 hours from Heathrow, sir.
02:55 PM on 01/10/2012
I'm sorry but surely if you are an ecconomist you must realise equating the cost of HS2 to ' £1000 per household' and saying that 'It is a bill that many in Britain can do without' is highly misleading.

Our tax system means that the well-off will pay much more - compared to the working man. Rather than giving us the answer to a simple division - I would have thought that as an ecconomist you could have at least tried to predict the 'bill' for the average family. (Which would be considerably less)
01:38 PM on 01/10/2012
Incongruous story for such a melodramatic event, the victims compensations are where do we place the "truth" for the solutions of relieving the oppressions of the past journeys are never alluded as to their true value. We as a people of 2012, not just American and Britains, Jews or Japanese, just a people of 2012 can allude to better transportation, better housing, better economic conditions, better health, as long we do it not to build a name for ourselves but as a concourse to alleviate the oppressions of the poor in spirit. The pressures of commuting takes the joy out of working for honest gains.
01:25 PM on 01/10/2012
A rail line from "north to south"? This line *might* one day reach as far north as Leeds, which is in the southern half of the UK (130 miles closer to the south coast than the north coast).

The north of the the UK has been completely ignored.
01:19 PM on 01/10/2012
This is a really bad article.

The £32 billion relates to the *whole* cost of HS2, i.e. including extending it to Leeds and Manchester.

The initial bit (London - Birmingham) will cost £17 billion.

A significant upgrade will start on London Bridge after the Olympics as part of on-going the Thameslink works, which will lead to more 12-carriage trains going through London Bridge.

The trains to/from Waterloo are also having a big upgrade done to them - 10- and 12-car trains will be used for the local services when it's done. There's also plans by TfL to crate a second Crossrail route, which will remove the majority of these local trains from Waterloo. http://www.transportxtra.com/magazines/local_transport_today/news/?id=28776
11:39 AM on 01/10/2012
This is possibly the stupidest move this government could make. The rail ine will only benefit those who afford to use it (high income businessmen and Goverment officials (who all have expense accounts invariably paid for by us one way or another). So the taxt payer coughs up once again for those who can afford to make the journeys which they invariably do by plane or "chaufeur" anyway. If the government wants to throw aay 32 billion pounds that we don't have then build a decent raod system North to south which can be used by ALL! both commercial and private traffic. We have never been able to build a road system in the UK which isn't constantly being dug up orotherwise causing hold-ups. Our general road transport system is an international joke and if the government wants to stimulate this dying economy it could do so in far better ways than building a rail system for the elite.
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09:17 AM on 01/10/2012
I'm in favour of infrastructure building. It's one of the few forms of Government spending of which I approve.