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Suspected Intruder Stabbed To Death Following Burglary In Bramhall, Stockport

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First Posted: 18/09/11 13:40 Updated: 18/11/11 10:12   PA

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A suspected intruder has been stabbed to death following a burglary at a house.

Police were called to the address in Bramhall, Stockport, on Saturday night following reports of a break-in.

A man aged in his late 30s was discovered with knife injuries and died a short time later.

A 39-year-old man - understood to be the householder - has been arrested on suspicion of murder.

Greater Manchester Police said it is believed two men entered the house in Midland Road and threatened the 39-year-old occupant.

The man was alone at the time, at about 7.50pm, but his wife and 12-year-old son returned during the incident. They escaped unharmed.

The second offender fled the scene and it is believed he may have driven off in a white Citroen van, registration MM02 XEY, that was parked nearby on Chinley Close.

Detectives are urgently trying to trace the vehicle.

The wanted man is described as being 6ft and of large build.

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dbrett480
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19:18 on 21/09/2011
Good for the homeowner. If this happened in America the intruders would have been shot and it would have been justified. The homeowner would not even be charged with murder as no criminal act occurred.
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M Zahran Sallay
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08:11 on 19/09/2011
no sympathy from me.

the intruder got was what coming to him. as i understand it the guy was stabbed to death with his own knife.
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fred53
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05:46 on 19/09/2011
What right did the police have to arrest the home owner? He was defending his home.
In my state if someone breaks into your home you can shoot them as long as you shoot
them inside the house. It's perfectly legal. I can assure you that if some punk breaks
into my home I'll shoot him. What kind of society prevents people from defending themselves­­,
their homes and families??­­? The police will never get there in time to prevent a crime.
I have an elderly crippled friend who lives in an area that has been plagued by drug fueled
home invasions. The local police gave him their personal mobile numbers and told him that
if he ever has to shoot an intruder trying to break in, outside the home to call them so
that they can come over and drag the body inside before officially reporting it so he won't
have any "administr­­ative issues"..N­­ow thats, to serve and to protect. Pity the British cops
don't serve the people...
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UKVisitor
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05:10 on 19/09/2011
What really annoys me about this case is that the police arrested the home owner.

Why? He wasn't going anywhere. Arresting him before investigating what happened is disgusting. Is he a flight risk? I doubt it.

My point is he didn't start this trouble, he wasn't looking for trouble, he was minding his own business until these yobs invaded his home. Then he was forced against his will to take part in a life and death struggle. So hasn't he suffered enough?

The Justice system is really out of step with public opinion on things like this.
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reasonshouldrule
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01:29 on 19/09/2011
I don't understand why the homeowner was arrested. He was defending his home and himself. And that his wife and son arrived during the break-in would have made him even more determined to stop the burglars.

Here in the U.S., there would be an investigation, but the homeowner would not have been arrested unless he was found to have broken the law. (Having said that, we do have a rather ridiculous law that says you can't use any force stronger than the intruder's--that is, you can't shoot him with your gun if the intruder was unarmed.)
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novelist2000
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05:19 on 19/09/2011
We have had this law here in Australia, too. It is based on the fact that you are responsible for what happens to people on your premises, especially out there on the farms and paddocks, where you can't leave deadly implements around or create traps. Extending this to city life, there was a burglar once who had broken his leg and the owner was found responsible. I believe the law has been softened. This kind of law is why people say, the law is an a%^e.

In all likelihood, the police and coroner will decide that he will not be charged. But when an unnatural death occurs they have to operate that way, except in Germany, which is another story altogether.
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reasonshouldrule
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01:06 on 21/09/2011
That's interesting, and your example is wonderful. Did the owner actually have to pay damages or go to jail? Sheesh! That sounds about like our law.

What happens in Germany on this issue?
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dbrett480
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19:19 on 21/09/2011
That is a ridiculous law. The police arrested this guy BEFORE it was determined that a criminal act occurred.
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eaglespark
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01:04 on 19/09/2011
"Suspected Intruder Stabbed To Death Following Burglary"

When I read the headline, I thought to myself: "Possibly the home owner was applauded for his actions in defending his family and... Oh wait-- this the UK? He will be certainly arrested and charged with murder then." Safe bet, eh?...

"The householder has been arrested on suspicion of murder"

I am glad I live in country and state that allows me to legally defend myself and my family.
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Miserable Swine
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00:32 on 19/09/2011
I wonder what the police would be calling it if one of their officers `murdered` an intruder in his or her home (while off duty)?
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eric14
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23:34 on 18/09/2011
The notion of ''reasonable force'' is an absurdity. Most people are never violent. When presented with a critical life-or-death situation they know only two things. Yield or fight to the death. There is no middle ground of ''reasonable force'' available to someone who is in danger. When tackling a violent criminal, you don't pause and think, ''Is this force reasonable?''

The person breaking into the property has used ''unreasonable force''. By doing so they put themselves at risk of meeting unreasonable force in response to their criminal act.
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sillyfrog
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00:22 on 19/09/2011
I think when everything is sorted out those charges will be dropped.
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TheLibraryOfCodex
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19:26 on 18/09/2011
Broke into the wrong house, huh mate?
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floodberg
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18:20 on 18/09/2011
This man was home alone when 2 intruders entered and threatened him.  He had every right to use deadly force to protect himself, assuming he broke off the attack when the intruder was no longer a threat.  In addition, his wife and son returned during the attack but got away.

The gold Maserati and/or Land Rover in the driveway undoubtedly was tempting.  I fully expect that there will be an outcry for harder sentences and more police now that robbers are going after rich families; who will of course get tax breaks for 'creating jobs' and having to put up with rioters, angry lower classes and of course the criminal element.
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Tim Haselden
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18:17 on 18/09/2011
Well, it is Stockport. That's Three dead burglars in the same number of months. GMP will start arresting homeowners soon, to stop themselves feeling left out.
Sorry, don't expect any sympathy for the burglar from me, I hope the bugger suffered.
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scsfoxrabbit
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21:15 on 18/09/2011
Faved - but I don't agree with the 'suffered'. Uncouth and unnecessary.
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novelist2000
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05:25 on 19/09/2011
If you have ever been the victim of people like that or similar, that's a natural reaction. Don't blame him for being human.

His tagline is Enemy of Rupert Murdoch since 1984 - 27 years! There must be a story behind that, I wonder. Sorry to distract, but I thought it would be noteworthy.
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Mr Sandbox
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17:53 on 18/09/2011
Based on the info presented, the home owner acted in self defense. It's not murder, but justifiable homocide. It's outrageous that the home owner was arrested at all. What's wrong with the UK police?
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UKVisitor
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19:44 on 18/09/2011
I couldn't agree more!
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Miserable Swine
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00:25 on 19/09/2011
What`s right with the UK police?
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John michael Adams
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16:48 on 18/09/2011
makes sense to me. if the guy is a burglar, the property owner has the right to defend his private property. i ahve more sympathy with the family of the property owner and i couldnt care less with the dead burglar. he brought it upon himself.
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Lawyer13
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16:11 on 18/09/2011
The man was defending his property, but was the force used reasonable, that is what the police and CPS will be looking into
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19:47 on 18/09/2011
He's a member of the public, not a trained martial artist, soldier or policeman. Why should there be any expectation on the householder to be "reasonable"?

Two against one and his wife and kid arrive during the incident. A flame thrower would have been reasonable.

If they charge him he should go to court, no jury in the UK would convict him.
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Miserable Swine
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00:27 on 19/09/2011
That`s for sure. But of course, the authorities wouldn`t want this to become a cause celebre.
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mrdailydigger
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15:58 on 18/09/2011
Multiple attackers one man and his home. I wish the police would investigate before arresting someone for murder. He didnt run away from his home or attempt to conceal the fact that he had defended himself. This country needs to start getting its house in order. People only need arresting once the police are sure an offence has taken place, not when a a crime sort of fits but is a good excuse to get the home owner inside.
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