Government Backs Clock-Change Move

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Posted: 23/11/11 06:18   PA

The Government will support a Bill aimed at moving the clocks forward by an hour all year round if amendments are agreed, ministers have told the Commons.

The announcement came in a technical debate over whether the Government can give the green light to the spending of £750,000 on a detailed research project into the idea.

Business Minister Mark Prisk said it would be essential for all parts of the United Kingdom to agree to the change and said the Government would consult with devolved administrations in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

The Government opposed the Bill at second reading 11 months ago.

But Mr Prisk told the Commons: "I can now confirm the Government's intention to support the Bill on an amended basis."

He continued: "The House last debated the Bill on December 3 last year when, despite the Government's opposition, it passed its second reading.

"It is something we have thought about long and hard and, as the Prime Minister has said, it's an issue that needs consensus right across the country. The amendments seek to address our concerns, including the need for UK-wide consensus.

"Accordingly, the Secretary of State will be required to consult with the devolved administrations in Scotland and in Wales, and to obtain the consent of the devolved administration in Northern Ireland to any proposed trial.

"I would emphasise the Government would not look to introduce a trial if there was clear opposition from any part of the UK.

"A further amendment we propose is that the independent commission be changed to an independent oversight group whose role would be to advise the Secretary of State on the preparation of any report."

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The Government will support a Bill aimed at moving the clocks forward by an hour all year round if amendments are agreed, ministers have told the Commons. The announcement came in a technical debat...
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14:33 on 29/11/2011
With all thats going on around us eg old people being treated like dirt, killed for a mobile phone, Banks ripping off the people that bailed them out,police and emergancy services being cut to the bone, UK desperate for money because the taxes we pay and the money generated from them is being thrown away to help other countries, the MORONS in GOV wan't to spend £750,000 on a reserch project
17:44 on 23/11/2011
Won't make much difference to anyone in the winter unless they can make the sun shine for longer and I doubt if anything apart from 'God' or a nuclear glow catastrophy can do that! This will cost businesses having to change opening hours to suit on top of the recent changes to VAT (it took me four weeks to change prices in the last VAT hike) but put into context the summer changes would benefit absolutely everyone! At it stands at the present moment, in the summer months it is light at 4am when no-one is up apart from birds, shift workers and farmers and light in the evening till 10pm? The summer changes would be the time when the benefits would be increased for tourism and family life. Just for once think 'out of the box'' and ahead into the future - summer would be wonderful but winter would just not change! Better some benefit rather than none!! The cost of the research is only the cost of a four bedroom country house with about an acre of land so don't start moaning. You would whinge even more if the question had not been asked and as far as I remember this was an idea put forward by members of the tourism industry and businesses which account for a shed load of jobs in the UK! As for the safety aspect for kids walking to school - how many actually walk to school these days?
17:05 on 23/11/2011
About time to - and I live in Scotland!
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rabidrightwatch
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16:55 on 23/11/2011
This will be good news for businesses all over the UK... the majority of our export trade is to the EU internal marketplace which, with a couple of exceptions, all work on the same time (CET), the UK, Greece, Portugual, Cyprus, Malta and the Canary Islands are out of sync with the rest...

In a typical 0900-1700 day, every UK business potentially loses 2-3 working hours when dealing with our EU partner countries...
think about it... if a UK office opens at 0900, its French counterpart for example has already been open for an hour. Similarly, lunch breaks are different and closing hours are also an hour different.

Now think how much more work we could do, and think how many more jobs this could potentially generate... joined up thinking please...

For those who argue that there will be less daylight - poppycock; this is a time change, not a change in the number of daylight hours...
This is a constructive, progressive way of realigning this differential.

I am no fan of this bow-and-arrow gang of a government, but they had to come up with a decent proposal sooner or later, now didn't they...
17:15 on 23/11/2011
Quote: "I am no fan of this bow-and-ar­row gang of a government­, but they had to come up with a decent proposal sooner or later, now didn't they... "

No need to give the government credit, it's a private member's bill. RoSPA has been campaigning for years to move the clocks forward as it saves lives, even in Scotland.
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rabidrightwatch
Green lefty & active environmentalist
17:27 on 23/11/2011
...zounds... I knew there'd be an explanation; couldn't force their way out of a wet paper bag, this lot... thanks
17:29 on 23/11/2011
Am in two minds about changing clocks - but will it really save as many lives as RoSPA claim?

Isn't it really guess work at the mo against a guaranteed known quantity?
17:21 on 23/11/2011
If a business who mainly does France can't work out out that it is more effective to work 8 to 4 instead of nine to five. Then really they deserve to lose money. Or even better eight to six and offer flexible working to its staff and covering the beginnings of the US market.

Why does my tax money have to spent on what business can do on their own because what exactly is stopping them moving their opening hours?
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rabidrightwatch
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17:33 on 23/11/2011
...if you read my comment carefully, you'll note I was using France merely as an example to illustrate the advantage of aligning the timezone, nothing else...
16:22 on 23/11/2011
Quarter of a million pounds for detailed research? Pardon me. Why can't politicians do their own research? That's what taxpayers pay them to do - to communicate with people. Get real!
15:55 on 23/11/2011
What gives this government the right to go against the wishes of the people,and waste YES waste another £750k on a detailed research into changing the way we have timed this country for decades if not more. SCOTLAND voted against the change and that should have been it. Are the government saying the Scottish vote does not count. I have written to Number 10 at least 3 times asking for an explanation into this government denying the public vote for the EU as they had promised apart from other very relevant needed answers. NO I have not received a reply, although the e-mail was acknowledged. What annoys me is that the British public has voiced its opinion and wishes through independant and media polls. So where are the so called PRESS who can put pressure on the government by expressing the wishes of the British people or are they and their reporters scared to ask the pm and "his" government why wont they honour their promises and the wishes of the people. I think they have forgotten that they are elected by the people for the people and its wishes, NOT for their OWN political whims. Also looking back through history one will find that Europe has always been the harbinger of lies,deceipt,greed and the cause of wars. We need to take a look at Switzerland and get,stay out and get this country a good if not great nation once again.
15:22 on 23/11/2011
BRING IT ON ! obviously jockland will oppose it . as usual . but they dont want to be part of the u.k. anyway . so GIVE them their independence plus their OWN time zone ! SORTED !
16:42 on 23/11/2011
The north of England opposes it too, please can we have independance?
17:07 on 23/11/2011
I oppose it too. Can I have independence please. Once I have my independence I can exercise my democratic right and vote on this, the EU and capital punishment.
17:07 on 23/11/2011
Apply to join and independent Scotland when it is formed.
17:09 on 23/11/2011
Can I also have independence so that I can sofrt out my own time zone. Added to this I am not in the red (yet) as I do not spend more that my GDP and will exercise my democratic right to myself and have a referendum on the EU and capital punishment
14:25 on 23/11/2011
The World does NOT revolve around London ! London just happens to be on the Greenwich meridian,which is where the World sets it's time from, Lets keep GMT all the year around, SOD Europe !
14:11 on 23/11/2011
a united kingdom my arse
13:30 on 23/11/2011
GMT is fine, thank you.
Government, please send your cheque for £750,000 to me at home. Your tax department has the address.
12:59 on 23/11/2011
What a waste of time & money!
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12:54 on 23/11/2011
Seems to me like a good idea, lighter evenings thing as far as I am concerned, Mark Prisk is my MP and does a great job.
14:01 on 23/11/2011
and the pitch black freezing cold mornings they are ok as well? in this extra hour of light at 4-5pm whislt it is freezing , heavy rain etc you will do what?
12:50 on 23/11/2011
I thought we had a debt crisis going on 3/4 of Million Quid for this pointless exercise!
16:44 on 23/11/2011
we only have a debt crisis going on when it comes to the poor, the sick, the disabled, the NHS, schools, the Armed Forces, the police, etc etc.
12:36 on 23/11/2011
We sit on the Greenwich Meridian - the world standard for time measurement. So what's wrong with using GMT all year round? There is no such thing as "daylight saving." Shifting the clocks does not make the sun stay longer in the sky. If the hours of darkness do not suit some people, then perhaps working hours and school opening hours could be changed to suit (as already happens in some schools in the very far north of Scotland.)
14:02 on 23/11/2011
true so Londoners could start work an hour earlier. all this is about is the bankers and city workers want to be on the same time as banking companies in europe in particular Frankfurt
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23:43 on 23/11/2011
Yep... early to bed, early to rise makes one synchronised with Europe.
12:34 on 23/11/2011
750K project - I wonder which of Cameron's mates or supporters / sponsors of the Conservative party will get that job