Payday Loans: Government Urged To Crackdown On Industry

Payday Loans

First Posted: 13/12/11 16:23 GMT Updated: 13/12/11 16:23 GMT   PA

The Government has been urged to regulate payday loans to protect "vulnerable and gullible" people.

Labour peer Lord Mitchell said he had been offered a loan with a 4,200% annual interest rate and called for action to deal with the issue.

He said at question time in the House of Lords: "There are 3.5 million people in this country who use payday loans. Yesterday I decided to become one of them. I applied for a loan for £300 over a 21-day period. I went on a very friendly website and filled out all the forms very quickly.

"They told me that if I clicked the button I would have £300 in my bank account in 15 minutes. I had to repay in three weeks the sum of £369, which is an annualised interest rate of 4,200%. I did not click the website."

And he asked business minister Baroness Wilcox: "Does the Government plan to regulate this industry? There are a lot of very desperate, vulnerable and gullible people out there and I think they need help."

Lady Wilcox said capping interest rates was "not necessarily the solution" as it could "force some borrowers into the arms of illegal loan sharks".

She added: "We have commissioned research to look at capping the total cost of credit these lenders can charge and we are having discussions with the industry to ensure that existing codes of practice contain real, enhanced consumer protections."

"I have no doubt that consumers should not be swayed by promises they will have the money in their banks in minutes. This might well be true but before taking out one of these loans they should stop and think."

But Labour peers leader Baroness Royall of Blaisdon hit back: "For a Government to say that people should stop and think before they take these loans demonstrates somebody being out of touch. These people are desperate, they are poor, they have got nowhere else to go that's why they need good regulation and assistance."

Lady Wilcox said she had spent six years as chairman of the National Consumer Council and apologised if she gave the impression she took the issue "casually", adding "There is no doubt that the biggest worry is that capping or any action we take like this will move people who are the poorest and the most vulnerable to having to go to illegal money-lenders where the punishment if they do not pay is not always something we can always physically see."

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The Government has been urged to regulate payday loans to protect "vulnerable and gullible" people. Labour peer Lord Mitchell said he had been offered a loan with a 4,200% annual interest rate a...
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10:45 PM on 12/14/2011
Why should people have to be protected? Why cannot people take responsibility for themselves? The politician should worry about how it came to be that people are having to resort to this practise. After all, they helped bring it about. Then they should try to fix it!!!!
04:56 PM on 12/14/2011
Such rates of interest are extortionate, so the laws against extortion should come into force?
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01:09 AM on 12/14/2011
Yes and make them illegal. They charge extortionate rates.
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Paul Houston
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12:42 AM on 12/14/2011
Unfortunately, the mentality which these loan providers are offering is the "Two drinks for the price of one" have the drink now, and don't think of the hangover in the morning.
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11:15 PM on 12/13/2011
lets see now in skint this month aha ill take out a loan hmm next month im gonna be even more skint.
would be better to do without me thinks
11:13 PM on 12/13/2011
Total loans in this industry are peanuts compared to bank bailouts. Most of these people could be provide with bank accounts, direct debits to cover their basic expenses, and some serious advice (and close monitoring) about how to manage their lives. To let the chaotic, the careless, the simple and the feckless get into debt like this is cruel. Democracy does not mean licensing the exploitation of the foolish. Our silly citizens should be constrained and advised.

All of this form of loan sharking should be shut down. It is pernicious. It is evil.

Rightists who advocate hands off policies are saying that the poor and not so sharp can be ripped off. They support processes tantamount to criminality. You knew that of course.
12:54 AM on 12/14/2011
I agree, but what about the High Street Banks that are charging 5 pounds per day for an unauthorized overdraft of 1 pound? How many thousand percent is that? At least the pay-day-loan companies publicise their rates, the banks get away with thousands of percent because they charge fixed fees.
01:23 AM on 12/14/2011
I heard on Radio 4 that it was 100,000% annualized!!! You're right. The get away with it. We bail them out then get mugged. It's unbelievable.
10:45 PM on 12/13/2011
It's taken so long that the horse has bolted before the barn door has been closed. Any sane person could see that allowing advertising for these loan sharks was looking another debt crisis in the face. Not only is it madness to allow them to exist, it's criminally irresponsible of the Government.
11:14 PM on 12/13/2011
Well said.
10:42 PM on 12/13/2011
A fool and there money are soon parted.
08:56 PM on 12/13/2011
"not necessarily the solution" as it could "force some borrowers into the arms of illegal loan sharks".

Rather than the legal ones. Out of the frying pan, into the fire, as my old granny used to say. Why not stop the pontificating and act, or would this be akin to bank regulation possibly affecting some Tory chums. I know, put it in the hands of Europe, they'll come up with a solution.
09:03 PM on 12/13/2011
If only they would act, but alas, the banks wont and the government wont (well they have their shares in them all dont they)
05:40 PM on 12/13/2011
I agree completely that Payday Loans need regulating but, before we all scream and scream how bad they are, they are aimed at those who CANT get authorised bank overdrafts.

So the choices are 4200% APR for a Payday loan or a whopping 80000+% APR for unauthorised bank overdraft (assuming you can get the overdraft)

This is assuming that you are you aware that from next year, one bank will be charging its most vulnerable customers up to £36 a day EACH DAY in charges alone, before any overdraft fees, just for trying to go overdrawn.

So imagine in a severely disabled person on basic benefit gets hit by an unauthorised overdraft of lets say 10p, then by the next week that the next lot of benefit arrives the banks charges will have exacerbated this to a staggering £252 plus about 1p in actual interest on the unauthorised overdraft .... their weekly benefit wont even cover that.

Oh before you start yelling what the hell am I on about have a look at the government own finding on bank overdrafts issued a couple of weeks ago, and report nationally, and then rigorously downplayed buy the banks!

For some this is the ONLY choice, and the only way that yuo can stop this is to make sure that the bank also take a responsible attitude!
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07:01 PM on 12/13/2011
Well said! Payday loans for some workers simply tie them over for a week or so until payday and many people use them for emergencies.....of course NO ONE should ever use them as a long term financial answer; But at least this gives those outside the very very tight Banks "guidelines" for who can have credit a chance to access funds.

Banks live off OUR MONEY, they gamble, invest and money exchange our cash, pensions and investments freely every day and if they lose, WE will pay. Banks have an authorised State Monopoly; You MUST get your salary paid through them! Banks create NOTHING, they build NOTHING and can cripple the world and ruin our lives and take away our savings yet STILL give "Fred the Shred" at RBS his £1.4 MILLION Christmas bonus this year.......
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05:13 PM on 12/13/2011
Anyone who takes a loan offering an exorbitant interest rate need their head looking at.
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12:58 AM on 12/14/2011
Spoken like a man who has no need of such evils Mickey mouse. consider (if possible) a loan of £200 to be paid back in 15 days making a total of £221 to be repaid. The lender who cannot get his bank to let him have the £200 short term would charge him £20 for each unpaid DD + the company you defaulted with would make a charge also (from £10 - £20). That short term loan is becoming more and more inviting when weighing up the alternatives. For some Mickey Money, it is not the stupid way, it is the only way. But, as you seem very dismissive about a service people like you would never use it is just easier to spout your view without thinking "well if I dont need it why should anyone else" - think about it Mickey. Nobody "wants" to use them but some have no short term alternative. Merry Christmas Ebeneezer Mouse