'Don't Mess With The Big Man': Vigilante From 'Scotrail No Ticket' Named (VIDEO)

Huffington Post UK   First Posted: 13/12/11 17:21 GMT Updated: 14/12/11 08:49 GMT

The “big man” from the “Scotrail No Ticket” viral video hit has been named as Alan Pollock from Stirling, Scotland by Deadline News.

Pollock was the vigilante hero of the "Scotrail No Ticket" clip on YouTube, unafraid to take on fare dodging student Sam Main on an Edinburgh to Perth train on 9 December.

The ruckus broke out after train conductor held the train at the station until the surveying student at Heriott Watt university got off or showed him a valid ticket.

“I'll sit here all night pal” the train conductor says, “I'm getting paid for this but they (the passengers) will start moaning. Why should they pay and not you?"

Main begins to swear saying “I’ve shown you my f**king ticket”

After a small argument, a burly passenger arises from a seat further down the carriage and asks “is there a problem?” With a single swoop, he grabs the student by the scruff of his neck and throws him off the train. As he sits back down other passengers clap and say “Thank you big man.”

The YouTube clip is captioned, “Don’t mess with the big man.”

The passenger intervenes in the row - grabbing the student by the neck


The aptly-named Big Man

Ian Hems, 27, from Perth, filmed the clip. Having seen the IT teacher record the incident, Pollock came over. Hems told Deadline news that the decisive passenger was the strong but silent type:

“The big man said, ‘if I end up in jail because of this, you’ve got to come and bring me a bag of pickled onion Monster Munch in prison.’ That’s pretty much all he said.”

The video has now been viewed by nearly 600,000 people and “the big man” even has a facebook group set up about him: "The Big Man Fae The Scotrail Train"

However he has attracted criticism from some quarters. Main has been eager to defend himself, saying that the “manhandling” left him with cuts and bruises on his face and that he did in fact have the right ticket. He told the Daily Record:

"I did have a ticket but I must have handed over the wrong one to the conductor.

"The next thing I know this big guy is manhandling me to the door and throwing me off. I landed on my face and I have cuts all over my cheek and legs."

His family said that as he didnt know his bag had also been thrown off he was frantically trying to get back on to the train to retrieve his belongings. They said it was especially important as he is diabetic and it contained his medicine, as well as his ipad and his university work.

On 12 December ScotRail confirmed it was looking into the incident. A spokeswoman said: "While we welcome the public’s support of our zero-tolerance stance on anti-social behaviour, our staff are trained in conflict management and we do not expect members of the public to take matters into their own hands.

"We are investigating the incident, which appears to show a person travelling without a valid ticket, refusing to pay for the journey, and swearing at a staff member in full view of customers."

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The “big man” from the “Scotrail No Ticket” viral video hit has been named as Alan Pollock from Stirling, Scotland by Deadline News. Pollock was the vigilante hero of the ...
The “big man” from the “Scotrail No Ticket” viral video hit has been named as Alan Pollock from Stirling, Scotland by Deadline News. Pollock was the vigilante hero of the ...
 
 
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07:24 PM on 12/19/2011
the big bully more like
03:35 PM on 12/15/2011
The conductor should be sacked. He held up the train and what about the people waiting at next station! He could easily have called the police and told them to get him at next stop but no the jobsworth held up the full train............. Also the big man isn't such a big man when he picks on a small young guy!! Nothing but a bully!!
04:10 PM on 12/14/2011
a horrible precedent -- the student was injured could have been badly injured & what if it was a pregnant woman or an octogenerian being vague about their ticket- does bully-boy manhandle them?
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07:29 PM on 12/14/2011
It's bleeding heart time again. The poor little 19 yr old was abusive and defiant of the rights of every decent person in the country-let alone those on the train. The bully boy (hero according to most posts) was quite within his rights to intervene. He used reasonable force and actually fended off attempts (Unreasonable) to hit him. The student claims he did have a ticket-in which case I hope he can produce it in evidence when called upon. If not- case closed.
05:52 PM on 12/20/2011
I agree with that statement.
03:19 PM on 12/14/2011
Away to go big man. Little scroat needed sorting out.....
02:23 PM on 12/14/2011
well done big man. Neds like Sam Main should be treated the way he treats everyone else.
01:20 PM on 12/14/2011
The man's a hero, impolite little oik got what he deserved...
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05:19 AM on 12/14/2011
When he asked if there was a problem and the conductor nodded yes. That was the conductor giving assent (permission) for the "Big Man" to intervene. He at that moment became an agent of the railway and all risk and liability became the railways. No charges will or should be laid because of that.
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10:55 AM on 12/14/2011
He also only used reasonable force on the ratbag
02:27 AM on 12/14/2011
Having now done the same thing 4 times in about a decade I wonder how I haven't been stabbed.

At the end of the day, it's still worth speaking out; no one has a right to take the proverbial and unless people act this won't stop. I once watched a young lad spit in a veteran's face on the London Underground and a carriage full of big grown men sat there and pretended not to notice it all. I threw the kid off the train at the next stop, pressed the emergency lever to call staff and the police, and then ranted for a full five minutes at the guys sitting there.

One had the nerve to say, "What are we supposed to do?" and I replied "Get off your big a-se and stop a kid attacking someone who risked their life for your country, that's what!"

Wasn't pretty....and my language was perhaps a little more colourful :-O
08:26 AM on 12/14/2011
David, thank god there are still people like you, I have to say I would have done exactly the same as you
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01:41 AM on 12/14/2011
Don't mess with a Scotsman- they don't care about political correctness, just what's the right thing to do.

If you're in a bit of strife, its good to know there are men like this who'll come to your aid.

Makes me proud.
12:09 AM on 12/14/2011
ultimatly its a common assult charge for which he is guilty by the video evidence shown regardless of if the lad was paying or not for a ticket

. oddly there ARE standards in place to ensure that under aged persons or vunerable adults can always use public transport without paying ie to return home if they have no access to money. tossing an udneraged kid off a train in the middle of nowhere is against those standards

the transport police have systems in place to deal with no payment along with fines for it there are also massive fines for delayed traines so is the conductor actualy able to halt a train for this? na i doubt it.

big bully abusing a kid.
12:28 AM on 12/14/2011
It does say the student was at university, so he's not going to be under age is he?
12:57 AM on 12/14/2011
He is 19 years old.
11:32 PM on 12/13/2011
I say good on this chap for helping out the conductor! The young lad never even seemed to ask to purchase a ticket and obvs had no intention of doing so. The member of staff asked the lad to leave to which he wasn't going 2, so after a short while a member of the public asked him if he wanted help in ejecting this lad from the train. I personally don't see a problem!, Staff shouldnt have to put up with that behaviour from any passenger.
I work in Security and that conflict managment can be a waste of time, it does not work on everyone especially when someone is swearing and going at you like this young lad was with the conductor and had no intentions of moving. I have been in situations with shoplifters before and have been greatful of any public help that has been offered! If they are not going to reason with you or come to an agreement then this is the only option left and thats to physically get involved, besides saved the police coming out didnt it? lol
11:44 PM on 12/13/2011
Well said!
11:25 PM on 12/13/2011
Pity Allan Pollock was"nt present when Alison Hulme needed a firefighter with some common sense.
10:51 PM on 12/13/2011
I have split views on this. I'm pretty sure I would have got involved in some way or another to resolve the situation.

If we are to believe the families catalogue of explanations then the lad (insolent or otherwise has a case)
I'm all for mediation however a vigilante is something else altogether.

If he'd picked on my son he would be a very sorry Fire Fighter by now.
10:17 PM on 12/13/2011
i have a teenage boy around the concer from me who travels on the train and NEVER buys ticket when hes caught he just gives my sons name and address then what you no im getting summons at about three a week comig thro my door i ring the train station senda photo of the boy who is useing my sons name and then we dont have to pay plus i can prove my son is at work
i got to the police and they say there is nothing they can do its a civil matter

after about the 25th summons my son has had enf and bash him up and put him in hospital yeah he was arrested, the police did a NFA well he is the local crimmial older brother a local nonce

funny how the summons have stopped

i saw deal with it yourself the law dont wanna help
10:52 PM on 12/13/2011
Could someone please translate this into English for me?
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12:02 AM on 12/14/2011
Press "3" for English.
09:36 PM on 12/13/2011
who videos this kind of rubbish anyway?
02:29 AM on 12/14/2011
A generation of voyeuristic people who have no emotional barriers left, from years of watching violence and murder on their tv and computer screens. That's what worries me most - they're so unaffected by it all.