HMS Victory Remains Are To Be Raised From The Bottom Of The Sea

Hms Victory Raised

First Posted: 22/01/12 08:58 Updated: 22/01/12 09:05   PA

The remains of the first HMS Victory are to be raised from the sea bed nearly 300 years after it sank, it was reported today.
The vessel, predecessor of Nelson's famous flagship, went down in a storm off the Channel Islands in 1744, taking more than 1,000 soldiers to their deaths.

Along with a bronze cannon collection, some believe the ship was carrying a large quantity of gold coins from Lisbon to Britain, which would now be worth a reported £500 million.

According to the Sunday Times, the wreck is to be handed over to the Maritime Heritage Foundation, which is expected to employ Odyssey Marine Exploration to carry out the recovery.

The American company found the ship four years ago.

A Ministry of Defence spokeswoman said: "Efforts to protect key parts of British Naval history such as the wreck of HMS Victory 1744 are very welcome and we hope to make an announcement shortly."

The guns and other artefacts will be displayed in British museums, while Odyssey is likely to receive the bulk of any treasure under the laws of salvage, the newspaper reported.

The Maritime Heritage Foundation was set up by Lord Lingfield, the Tory peer formerly known as Sir Robert Balchin.

He is a relative of Admiral Sir John Balchin who was on board the Victory when it sank, although he stressed he would not profit personally from the ship's cargo.

Lord Lingfield told the Sunday Times: "The foundation seeks to prevent damage to this historically important site and maximise its archaeological, scientific and educational value.

"We hope it will give a unique insight into the world of the mid-18th century Royal Navy."

The ship's location remained a mystery despite numerous searches, until Odyssey discovered the wreck in May 2008. The Florida-based firm found the site 330ft under the English Channel, nearly 65 miles from where the ship was historically believed to have been wrecked, near the Channel Islands.

The Dutch financial publication Amsterdamsche Courant reported on November 18 1744, a month after the ship sank: "People will have it that on board of The Victory was a sum of 400,000 pounds sterling that it had brought from Lisbon for our merchants."

It was also thought that large quantities of silver and gold coins would have been on board The Victory from enemy prize ships captured by Balchin, worth 120,000 pounds sterling at the time.

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08:37 on 23/01/2012
If you want to sell it cheap see tony blair he is a good inbetweener.
23:52 on 22/01/2012
A lot of people are getting very snooty over the idea that the salvage people might makes some money out of this. I assume all those people work but refuse to accept any sort of wage as the vulgar money would dirty their hands.
23:46 on 22/01/2012
Why a picture of Nelsons Victory ?
Which is nothing whatsoever to do with the story .......
But then on this crap 'News' site what else are we to expect ?
23:07 on 22/01/2012
also my grandads ship was found a few years ago and that one was sunk in 1915...but then no one gives a monkeys anymore about that, but an historical ship....oh yes we want some of that..cobblers
23:06 on 22/01/2012
the MOD are a laugh they want to protect naval history hmm thats because they can smell gold coins down there somewhere my dads ship which was sunk was found to years ago by a private diver it was sunk in march 42, haha the navy don't care about theeir own ships if there is no value to them why is this old wreck any different .....mod suck
23:04 on 22/01/2012
There is a big spread in well known UK Sunday paper about this, apparently Odyssey have managed to enlist the help of the current generation descended from Admiral Balanchine, whose charitable organisation the Maritime Heritage Foundation, is sanitising the work (are they just set up to do this or are they `respectable' otherwise?).

Lord Lingfield is apparently quite sanguine about the bones of his ancestor, and of the 1000 people who were lost with him, being disturbed, and does not stand to gain financially from the recovery.

The cannons will go to UK museums (assuming they can find any still cannons collecting) and any gold bullion to Odyssey to cover the cost of recover.

Not a bad pay packet upto 500million that is
20:28 on 22/01/2012
reading the comments on this article makes me mad they are all about the salvage and how much people can make out of it lets remember for a minute this technically is a grave over 1000 people lost there lives when this ship sank so why carn,t they just leave it alone and let them rest in peace
23:45 on 22/01/2012
The sea will have recycled those people about 1000 times by now people to bodies to fish to fish fingers to sewage to fish etc.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
13:49 on 23/01/2012
There's a natural time limit on non-disturbance - the time before the death of the last relative who knew the bodies when they were alive. From 1744, it's a good time gone.
18:41 on 22/01/2012
CAPTAIN PUGWASH..MASTER-BATES AND SEAMAN STANS AN DONT FORGET TOM THE CABIN BOY...THEIR THE ONES THAT SANK THE SHIP...EYE-EYE CAPTAIN..FIRE THE CANNONS..SINK THEIR SHIP...PIRATES LIFE ON THE JOLLY ROGER....LOL...
20:43 on 22/01/2012
Dear DB34, Think you will find that there were no such character names in Captain Pugwash, Yes there was a Tom the cabin boy, Master Mates, and pirates Barnabas and Willy. Certainly no Seaman STANS (As you put it). - In fact in 1991 The Young Guardian newspaper had to print an apology for assuming that the tv series did in fact have characters with names of a sexual conotation.
21:43 on 22/01/2012
I am of an age to remember the programme as it was transmitted, loved it.
As an adult I can take silly pleasure in the .'naughty names'.
Roger the Cabin Boy, who would?
16:23 on 22/01/2012
Ah i can see HMS victory pressed back into service soon, ready to deploy to the Falklands!!!!...lick of paint, few new sails and the navys got another warship, bringing its total deployable number to 2. Ah the joys of the "strategic defence review" or as the guys in the military say "sack, save, waste".
14:10 on 22/01/2012
I can sense the Americans salivating at getting their mitts on our history yet again!

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15:47 on 22/01/2012
Perhaps you could summarise British efforts to find the wreck and provide some good reasons for the British to benefit.
16:08 on 22/01/2012
If I find a £5 note in the street I have 2 options, pocket it or turn it in at the police station, there is and offence of stealing by finding I think.
Best is that any bullion or whatever is used to pay for the expedition of recovery and anything left to pay for preservation and exhibition.
16:09 on 22/01/2012
I don't care who finds these wrecks/& or any great relics of history, it's just when they do find them, there's little regard for heritage and more about finders-keepers mentality & salvaging (rights) for profit!

...followed by some crass Hollywood (historically inaccurate) films!
16:07 on 22/01/2012
Regardless who recovers the ship, It wasn't doing a lot hanging around at the bottom of the ocean but salvage work doesn't come cheap so I would suggest that a lot of what they find will have to go towards the cost of recovery. If they find nothing, they'll lose their shirts...............it's a big gamble.
13:41 on 22/01/2012
i would not mind a few gold coins myself
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11:06 on 22/01/2012
Nice ship, bad location.
11:00 on 22/01/2012
Do I see more firewood? Well I have two wood burning fires and could use a decent supply, any chance ?
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
13:50 on 23/01/2012
You can probably find cheaper elsewhere.
15:20 on 23/01/2012
Cheaper be blowed...nowt but the best for me!
10:32 on 22/01/2012
I watched the recovery of the cannon on discovery. I don't mind them doing research, but the only reason this is even being attempted is the high chance of MONEY. Like the black swan project.
12:56 on 22/01/2012
Very possible, dot forget they the Odyssey group are also raising the cargo from another British gold carrier and the government are letting them keep 80% of the value. But then that one is very very deep, so the costs will be very very high.

makes me wonder what they will charge this time around!
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09:41 on 22/01/2012
What a beautiful sight for sore eyes it is. She has been resurrected in the nick of time, our Navy needs every ship they can acquire from anywhere, sharing with the French, is a definite no no, we would never be safe or certain with their allegiance..HMS,,Victory, has seen it all, she has been tried and tested the whole of her service, She, and her Captain and crew were resilient, in their endeavour to fight to the death for their country. However, politicians in those days were there for Britain..Strange how she is being resurrected right now, as the puppets in Wetminster, sign us up to the very people we battled with, is this a warning or an omen for them, let us hope so......
10:55 on 22/01/2012
Er, it's not the Victory in the picture, or are you joking?
12:54 on 22/01/2012
Chris that is Nelson HMS Victory, which you can visit in Portsmouth Dockyards. I dont think they have a picture of the original one!
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11:24 on 22/01/2012
Er,chris1000, you are splitting hairs, does it matter. It is identical in build and shape. have you been to Portsmouth, the similarities are striking....
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16:03 on 22/01/2012
I live in Portsmouth. One day to see the Victory, Warrior and a few other bits and bobs. That`s about it. Watch out for chavs.