Ministry Of Defence Theft Of Equipment Soaring

Night Vision Goggles

First Posted: 25/01/2012 06:24 Updated: 25/01/2012 06:24   PA

Thefts of military equipment are soaring and the Ministry of Defence is doing too little to stop the problem happening or seize expensive kit back, MPs said.

Helicopter rotor blades worth £50,000, £45,000 night vision goggles and an inflatable boat were among recent thefts - which totalled more than £1.9 million last year.

But only £19,000 worth was recovered and there were just 11 prosecutions, seven cautions and five dismissals, the Commons defence committee complained.

A two-and-a-half times increase in the number of annual thefts to 433 and a fivefold rise in the value of items stolen was put down in part by top brass to better reporting.

Even since the new procedures were put in place, however, the number has risen by 28% and the value by 66% - something the committee highlighted as a serious concern.

The level of fraud has also risen sharply, with 592 cases recorded last year, though sums being recovered have gone up, with just over £1 million clawed back last year and £906,000 in 2009/10.

That compares with five-figure sums in previous years.

The top civil servant at the MoD, permanent secretary Ursula Brennan, said particular attention was given to guarding arms and other dangerous items.

The military also had "more things that are of interest for people to steal", she told the committee, and had to balance security with the need to deploy kit quickly.

A Defence Crime Board had been set up, revised zero-tolerance plans sent out to every part of the MoD and fraud awareness education provided to staff, the MoD said.

The committee said though that it expected the MoD "to tackle this issue with a greater degree of vigour" in future, expressing shock at the scale of thefts.

"We recommend that the MoD clarify the roles of the various police and security forces dealing with fraud and theft and provide further information on how the problems of prevention, detection and recovery are being managed within the MoD," it concluded.

A defence minister revealed last year that a plane fuselage had been among other items stolen.

An MoD spokesman said: "MoD takes any loss or theft of equipment very seriously and has robust procedures in place to prevent possible future incidents. New processes and instructions have also been implemented to raise awareness of the need for vigilance in all aspects of departmental security.

"The Permanent Secretary and the Chief of the Defence Staff endorse the MoD's policy of zero tolerance and regularly remind senior managers of their responsibility to combat fraud. Investigations are undertaken into every loss or theft. Criminal prosecutions and appropriate disciplinary action is taken against those caught, as appropriate."

He said the committee had wrongly claimed helicopter rotorblades had been stolen - the item was in fact a rotor tuner which had since been found.

Inquiries were ongoing into the theft of 39 sets of night vision goggles, though 11 had been recovered, he added.

And the "fuselage" referred to in a previous ministerial answer was only "one small section" and had also been recovered.

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12:24 PM on 01/25/2012
I thought they have their own police or is everybody in it?
07:02 PM on 01/25/2012
We call them monkeys and they are about as clever well not quite and a bit stupid couldnt catch a cold on a wet day Red xxx
12:15 PM on 01/25/2012
When we see a body brought home he was always the best guy in the world and a credit to his unit, so who is doing all the nicking
11:20 AM on 01/25/2012
i had a cousin who used to work for flagship .an officer asked him to look at his private boat as the engine was acting up .he told him it was knackered but a week later the same officer asked him to fit a new engine he had got .when he checked the engine he found it was from the stores ..
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Philduck
10:30 AM on 01/25/2012
My next door neighbour nicked an aircraft carrier from the Royal Navy. He keeps it in his back garden.
It's a bit of an eyesore mainly because of its size. I had to complain last week because of the frequent take off and landings in the early hours of the morning.
Some people,eh!
11:20 AM on 01/25/2012
Make a formal complaint about the noise and the council will come along and confiscate it.
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Philduck
04:52 PM on 01/25/2012
I did. They sent round two council workers. They ummed and arred and were reluctant to move it. "More than their job was worth", one of them said. " 'ealth and safety" the other one muttered.
So I guess I am stuck.
A nice man came round from the Iranian Government, but he changed his mind about buying it and just asked if he could stay, indefinetly.
12:16 AM on 01/26/2012
;)
06:57 PM on 01/25/2012
Least he's got one we aint can't afford one AND keep our politicos in canopes Red xxx
10:05 AM on 01/25/2012
my son was in the black watch and was used to a good and honest life at home,only to find when he started his career in the army he was thrown in with a bunch of low lifes,thieves and bullys.dont get me wrong there were honest guys there as well and they would back me up with my statement,my son had all his personal items stolen a week before he went to iraq,which we had to replace,he had to report this to get the insurance claim in and got beaten up by the bullys that stole the gear because he was classed as a grass for reporting it,so he was in a no win situation,so if they start out like that no wonder things are going missing,
09:51 AM on 01/25/2012
Its a long standing tradition in the forces to scrounge and perhaps appropriate kit from other scources I do remember that in 75 the G1098 forms were a joke we used to sign M Mouse or Cpl B unny for kit we had lost or got destroyed on duty as the system for reporting loss's always ended with a fine or a charge for loss
The greatest joke was the spares demand system I remember the RL Bedford rear tailboard £100 was just one or two part numbers apart from an L60 engine Pack £80,000 and we knew that the number was paramount so we just put RL tailgate and the number for a L60 Chieften Tank engine and miracles of miracles a nice shiny engine appeared despite the QM telling us that they had no engines Red xxx
09:28 AM on 01/25/2012
Let me think, NCOs and officers are the people you should be looking at as they can move big stuff about and in and out of base with no questions asked. I suspect a lack of organisation and tracking of equipment making it too easy for things to go missing . In the military you have to always keep an eye on your own kit from your fellow soldiers sad but true.
10:02 AM on 01/25/2012
Our unit once FOUND a Scammel reccie truck that was a bit LOST we felt sorry for it and gave it a nice home it was two years before a thieving REME bod stole it but the Navy ended up with it and it was last heard of painted blue at a Naval stone boat Red xxx
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09:15 AM on 01/25/2012
Yes but when the streets fall into total disarray we will employ the military to patrol the streets like the police!!! Recent release of information showed hundreds of Police officers across the country have criminal records. These offences range from motoring offences to burglary, robbery, fraud, there was even a case where an allegation of rape was made and the police decided not to pursue the matter and arranged for it to be left on file! So let me get this straight in my mind. We have Law makers (politicians) running the country guilty of fraud and misappropriation of public funds (taxes) without fear of prosecution. They employ Police, of which are guilty of fraud, theft, violence, murder, corruption against the Public without fear of prosecution to uphold the law the former make. And whilst Military personal, usually ranking personal collude to steal million of pounds worth of equipment again without fear of prosecution as public cannot investigate the military, public use Police to investigate themselves and Politicians use themselves to investigate themselves whilst all the time if a member of the public farts in public he's strung up??? What a country
09:59 AM on 01/25/2012
LJW I can see from an ex squaddie most of this kit will not be nicked it's just not where it should be often kit is lost or destroyed or its shall we say used by persons who really perhaps not be in the position of having to appropriate kit from fiddles and scrounging its a long standing tradition and often gear is lost on paper but is in constant use for perfectly legal purposes by the soldiers we just had a case where a young soldier afraid of being charged for Night Vision goggles lost his life for trying to recover them Red xxx
09:00 AM on 01/25/2012
Sounds like Fred Carno is eqipping his army...The thousands of bloody civil servants stumbling over themselves and focusing on bonuses are too busy (sic) and too incompetent to stop it all.
08:58 AM on 01/25/2012
Pssssssssssssssst - Er - Erm
Wanna very low mileage TSR2 ??????

Only the very old will understand!!!!!!
10:05 AM on 01/25/2012
Love it!! One careful owner???
07:07 PM on 01/25/2012
I'll come and kick the tyres if its a runner know an Iranian gent who will buy it when his benifit ceck comes next week just park it on his lawn at the mansion where he lives Red xxx
08:56 AM on 01/25/2012
there must have been some dodgy looking charactors waddling through the barrack gates with that lot stuffed down the legs of their pants......maybe they all snuck out at night ...using the night vision goggles?
07:50 AM on 01/25/2012
'My eyes are dim,
I cannot see
I should have brought my spec's with me,
But some General nicked them!
06:49 AM on 01/25/2012
C'mon chaps - where did you hide that 30ft long helicopter blade?

More likely its 'lost' on the inventory system...
09:03 AM on 01/25/2012
I'm inclined to agree.

It's not exactly the sort of thing you can put down your trousers and walk out with, is it? Nor is it the sort of thing one would 'dispose of' down the pub.
07:00 PM on 01/25/2012
Up my ----- and its not worth it ouch Red xxx