Falklands - Guy Opperman, Conservative MP, Blames Foreign Office For Contributing To Impasse With Argentina

Guy Opperman Argentina Foreign Office

The Huffington Post UK   First Posted: 30/01/2012 17:39 Updated: 30/01/2012 17:40

Anyone flicking through stories about the Falklands in the papers last weekend might be forgiven for thinking we were on the verge of having to defend them from Argentina again. Most think that's over-egging it, but the security and prosperity of the islands is undoubtedly at a crossroads.

A trade blockade by Argentina is choking the islands' economy, and many in Britain worry that in the unlikely event of an Argentine invasion, we wouldn't be able to defend it. Tory MP for Hexham Guy Opperman is leading a debate on the Falklands' future at Westminster on Tuesday, and he spoke to Huff Post UK ahead of it.

First up, what's your response to comments by General Sir Mike Jackson in the Sunday Telegraph, who said that if Argentina were to repeat its invasion of the Falklands, it'd be "impossible" to take them back?

My understanding is we have a sufficiency of forces there to ensure the defence of the Falkland Islands. Certainly that is the view of the officer commanding, the Brigadier of the Royal Fusileers, who when interviewed on Sunday made it very clear that with the submarine offshore, the various ships that he has at his disposal, the various planes at his disposal, and the runway that they have, that they are well-capable of defending the Falklands Islands.

But you can see why people are worried, when the only real government response is to say that they don't think Argentina could do it in the first place?

The government's position is two-fold, that the Argentinians do not have that capability and have a considerably inferior military force than we do, but also that to her credit, whilst Mrs Kirchner talks a good game, she has specifically ruled out military force. I think everybody would accept, however, that there's a lot of sabre rattling going on, and whilst that may be ruled out on the left hand, the right hand are saying aggressive things at the same time.

But it is quite out-spoken of General Sir Mike Jackson, you must agree about that at least?

I think an awful lot of military leaders are making the fair and realistic point that we do not have the military capability that we had in 1982. Successive governments have been in a position where they have refined that military capability for a variety of reasons, and nobody disputes his expertise on that. General Sir Mike Jackson, would, had he been asked the question, been very clear on this, that we're well-capable of holding it at the present stage, and supporting it. It would be a different matter trying to re-take it if we didn't have submarines there, and the several thousands troops we have dug-in very securely, with 30 years of knowledge.

You're calling for the forthcoming government White Paper on overseas territories to include more on self-determination, what's the thinking behind that?

That White paper should contain, for all the independent territories, a self-determination rule whereby provided a majority want to stay with the status quo they should be permitted to do so. Sadly this country has had a tradition where the whims of Whitehall have in relation to the Falklands in the past, and occasionally Gibraltar, hedged ever closer towards a position where the interest of the local people were not paramount. I don't think that's right.

I would like it set in stone, so we're absolutely clear as to what the position is. That would also accord with the United Nations convention which everybody is discussing at length on this matter. It would add a great deal more force if the House of Commons and all the individual independent territories knew crystal clear that the determining factor was the rights of the individual people.

And in the absence of a looming invasion, presumably it's the blockade which is the next biggest concern?

Frankly we need to get on better with the Argentinians. If they genuinely wish to take over sovereignty, they're not exactly winning over hearts and minds at the moment, are they? Sometimes there is a preconception that the Foreign Office aren't doing enough. I'd like them to be doing an awful lot more. It's entirely in our own interests because we all want trade to be improving with South America. It would not be a good idea if the British people came to realise that the South Americans are effectively blocking their goods.

That's quite stinging criticism of the Foreign Office...

Everybody in the Falkland Islands believes the Foreign Office could be doing more on this issue. They could be considering self-determination as part of the white paper considerations, and they could be an awful lot more robust in their negotiations and diplomacy with South American countries.

We would like a Foreign Office that fully understands the motivations behind the Argentinian view. That has persistently been their failure, whether it is in Argentina, or Iraq or other places, or Afghanistan, to have a realistic understanding of the political, historical and actual motivations of our foes or our neighbours.

I have great respect for the Foreign Office but they need to do their job better. They don't have an understanding of certain areas. We're asking, 'Why are Argentina behaving as they are?' ... the answer is we don't know. Because the Foreign Office haven't been able to tell us. I wouldn't be conjecturing as to what that response would be if I knew it.

As a backbench MP I get the overriding impression that the Foreign Office are occasionally insufficiently well-informed about the motivations of some of our foes or some of the people that we do business with. The Foreign Office have got to step up to the plate.

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Anyone flicking through stories about the Falklands in the papers last weekend might be forgiven for thinking we were on the verge of having to defend them from Argentina again. Most think that's ove...
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09:32 on 31/01/2012
Send Haig to negitiate he could "stupid" them to defeat!
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McMarcia
04:01 on 31/01/2012
I lived in Argentina in 2010 and there is a small, but rabid bunch who enjoy their "victimhood" of the "lost" Malvinas islands. Everyone else just rolls their eyes when Cristina Fernandez Kirchner goes on and on. They all know it is only to distract them from the problems in the economy. The lack of career opportunities, the real 28% inflation rate (hidden by her corrupt government and she'll arrest anyone who says otherwise), etc.

As an American I was neutral on the topic of the Falkland / Malvinas dispute, but after reading up on it, I think the treaties of the time are highly contradictory. Yes, in the 1830's the administrative government in Buenos Aires had administrative authority over the Falklands, but they also had administrative authority over southern Brazil, Southeastern Paraguay and Bolivia. If they are using that timeframe (and they are) to justify their ownership of the Malvinas, and if the UN backs them, then they could also legally take back the provinces from those other countries. Also, at that time southern Argentina was not part of the BsAs administive area. Are they going to give that up to "restore" their original administrative authority?

I think it's really strange that the Argentine president is a 3rd generation Latin American (her grandparents were Spanish), yet claims that Falklanders (who have been on the islands far longer) should not be allowed to determine their own fate.
23:43 on 30/01/2012
"It would not be a good idea if the British people came to realise that the South Americans are effectively blocking their goods."

What nonsense! Speaking from one of the Latin American nations I can assure him that it is seeking to expand its trade with the UK and is making no secret about it!!!!

And why does Argentina speak as it does? I humbly suggest that it does so to appeal to a certain sector of the electorate, and uses the issue to distract a disgruntled sector of same. It also keeps some of its Generals busy on the topic and out of other mischief.
23:13 on 30/01/2012
How silly. The foreign office knows, as does every sensible person, that the Argentinians want the Falklands for two reasons only:
1) Oil
2) Focusing the attention of domestic voters away from the Argentina
3) Bragging rights
22:41 on 30/01/2012
I think that newspapers and news corporations should be controlled when it comes to this sort of thing. The article is right, all I have seen is basically saying we are almost at war. Which is not true. The media is fueling this.
21:42 on 30/01/2012
The native Falklanders want to be British.

The Argentinian government are threatening ethnic cleansing, they are bullying. The UK needs to bully back, undermine Kirchner and hurt her. Thats how you deal with bullies.
21:13 on 30/01/2012
Shame on both Kirchner and Cameron!

Argentina and the UK are both western liberal democracies- we should be the best of friends notwithstanding the ugly past conflict over the Falklands. The ridiculous sabre rattling and un-diplomatic language that both leaders have engaged in is dangerously jingoistic and unhelpful.

Cameron he is not honouring the sacrifice of the brave men and women who died in the Falklands War by putting the peace at risk mouthing off against Kirchner, and Kirchner is not honouring her commitment to human rights and democracy by ignoring the will of the Falkland islanders.

Both nations need to accept the principle of home rule and self determination for the Falklands and to keep talking and cooperating with one another.
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jimbraid1
03:34 on 31/01/2012
Sensible comments James.
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McMarcia
04:04 on 31/01/2012
Cameron has been preaching just that in Parliament: home rule and self determination for hte Falklands. But Cristina doesn't want that because she knows the Falklanders will vote to stay in the British Commonwealth (they already did so 10 years ago).

The UK has not inflicted sanctions against Argentina - but AR and Mercosur have set up sanctions against Falkland flagged fishing vessels, so they cannot dock or sell their goods in Brazil, Argentina, Chile, etc.

Argentina unfortunately will always pay for the sins of their dictators - just as Germany still pays for the Nazi sins. No Falklander wants to be ruled over by the Argentine government - though it may be democratic today, it is still wildly corrupt. This is the same for Germany - they lost territory after WWII - and France, Poland and Czech Republic are not planning to give it back!
09:36 on 31/01/2012
What the hell could we sanction them with - not giving them access to our corrupt, incompetent banking system?
19:59 on 30/01/2012
WHY NOT GIVE IT BACK. EVERY ONE ELSE HAS TAKEN BACK THEIR LANDS,HONG KONG INDIA, OZ, USA,IRELAND,SOON SCOTLAND,THIS COUNTRY SHOULD JUST BEND OVER AND TAKE IT.LETS JUST HOPE THE ITALIANS DONT WANT THEIR FORMER COLONY BACK I.E ENGLAND OR WE WILL B, F U C K ED HAVE U SEEN THERE DEBT
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20:19 on 30/01/2012
Well ... uhhh ... you've certainly given us all something to think about ........
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21:19 on 30/01/2012
Maybe you should fix your caps lock key before your next post. Or just not bother.
18:30 on 30/01/2012
William Hague is treating people like fools. William Hague, must resign!!!
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Seriously, it's time.
19:55 on 30/01/2012
He's just treating others exactly the same as he'd expect to be treated himself.
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20:53 on 30/01/2012
If you feel that William Hague is treating you like a fool then don't vote for him at the next election. As for his diplomatic policy and statements on the Argentine threat to the British soveriegnty of the Falkland Islands- maybe he is treating the Argentines as fools!
As for him resigning a post that he has so far been successful in; I would appreciate if you could expand your opinion.
18:30 on 30/01/2012
Why is it that when the answer to Argentinian attempts to take the Falklands is no there always seems to be people in Britain who want to find another way to ask the people of the Falklands if they would consider it again.
22:00 on 30/01/2012
Liberal's are the reason why.
22:13 on 30/01/2012
Do you seriously think that they might be wavering? They have absolutely nothing in common with Argentina.
18:13 on 31/01/2012
The Falklanders have been constant in their loyalty. The civil servants in whitehall not so much.