Council Prayers Ruling Overturned By Eric Pickles

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First Posted: 18/02/2012 08:47 Updated: 18/02/2012 08:47   PA

Communities Secretary Eric Pickles has moved to restore the legal basis for councils to hold prayers at the start of business.

After the High Court ruled last week that local authorities could not hold prayers during meetings, Pickles said he was "effectively reversing" the judgment.

He has fast-tracked the implementation of a general power of competence - contained in last year's Localism Act - enabling councils to do anything an individual can do that is not illegal.

Pickles believes this will render the High Court ruling - which followed objections to prayers at Bideford Town Council in Devon - irrelevant.

Mr Justice Ouseley, sitting in London, ruled last week that councils lacked power under section 111 of the Local Government Act 1972 to hold prayers "as part of a formal local authority meeting".

The National Secular Society and an atheist ex-councillor had argued that Bideford council was acting unlawfully by putting prayers on meeting agendas.

The ruling was condemned by government ministers and clergy.

It is understood the ritual dates back in Bideford to the days of Queen Elizabeth I, and the council has recently voted twice to retain it.

Pickles said today: "The High Court judgment has far wider significance than just the municipal agenda of Bideford Town Council.

"By effectively reversing that illiberal ruling, we are striking a blow for localism over central interference, for freedom to worship over intolerant secularism, for Parliamentary sovereignty over judicial activism, and for long-standing British liberties over modern-day political correctness.

"Last week's case should be seen as a wake-up call. For too long, the public sector has been used to marginalise and attack faith in public life, undermining the very foundations of the British nation. But this week, the tables have been turned."

The general power of competence for councils was meant to take effect from April, but Mr Pickles signed a parliamentary order today bringing it in immediately.

The Department for Communities and Local Government said larger councils would be able to continue with prayers although smaller councils, including Bideford, would have to wait until March.

It is only available to councils in England.

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05:31 PM on 02/24/2012
The announcement that Town halls can have prayers before council meetings is a victory for democracy and affirms our Christian heritage which has brought so much good to our country.
03:23 PM on 02/21/2012
'the fool has said in his heart, 'there is no God'. Psalm 14:1

It is a great pity that so many people both in politics and without speak of things they no nothing of and have not experienced.

If all nations were with one heart and one mind for their brothers and sisters to live in peace and harmony then God would listen to the out pouring of their hearts.
04:02 PM on 03/04/2012
That will never happen, muslims, jews and christians will always be at each others' throats until we all end up as ashes.
02:11 PM on 02/21/2012
I am surprised that the National Secular Society are not lobbying for the removal of the Lords Spiritual from the House of Lords ...
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01:41 PM on 02/20/2012
"Overturned"
Using religion to keep the masses in their place, has got to be good.
But if religion should ever place the tenets of that belief above the established pomp and ritual, that has to be bad.
01:36 PM on 02/20/2012
Eric Pickles does not understand his own legislation. Section 1 of the Localism Act says that Councils have a general power of competence but Section 2 says that Councils cannot use it to overcome a "pre-commencement limitation" - like a Court Order that says Councils cannot put prayers on the agenda of its meetings!
12:08 AM on 02/20/2012
For the benefit of the uneducated amongst us just because our Head Of State is also head of the Church Of England does not mean we all have to follow like sheep. Non-belief in a higher Being is perhaps not a bad thing when one looks back on all the wars fought over the differences in imaginary dierties. The Crusaders, the French Religious Wars and the Lebonese Civil War for example. I'm not so much anti religi­on as pro freedom of belief and that should include the freedom not to have a religion without some smart person telling me it's all to do with evolution.
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12:41 PM on 02/19/2012
Has this man got nothing better to do?
12:39 PM on 02/19/2012
For the benefit of the uneducated amongst us our Head Of State is also head of the Church Of England. Belief in a higher Being is perhaps not a bad thing when one looks back on some of the better known atheists, Stalin, Hitler, and Mao Tse Tung for example. I'm not so much pro-religion as anti-atheism and anti the false science that is used to promote atheism. For example the random mutation theory of evolution has long since been discredited but Dawkins and his like continue to preach the same falsehoods.
02:02 PM on 02/19/2012
Just for anyone reading this nonsense, Hitler hated atheists, and as a trained biologist, I have no idea what "the random mutation theory of evolution" is.
02:21 PM on 02/19/2012
Your a trained biologist??? Who trained you? http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/IIIC1aRandom.shtml
The theory is wrong, acquired variations are transmitted as RNA, mutation then consolidates the variation. Lamarck got it right.
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Researching my viewpoint....
02:04 PM on 02/19/2012
Well said! Monotheistic theism has been around for a very long time!
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Philip J Sparrow
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04:00 PM on 02/19/2012
so has syphilis
12:09 PM on 02/19/2012
Can I add that I am a non-religious - but believe it is anyones right to believe if they chose!
12:35 AM on 02/20/2012
Yes at present you can.
In the future you might not be able to say that if Picles gets his way.
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12:06 PM on 02/19/2012
praise the lord!the wicked one meaning the devil will never deystroy god the father the son and the holy spirit,the wicked ones time is limited
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10:10 AM on 02/19/2012
woahhh lets look @ this lets for arguments sake say buddists have now seats in a council does that mean that buddists prayers and rituals would come into force b4 any work done ?
09:58 AM on 02/19/2012
one person of a particular religion , another of person of a different religion and someone else of another religious persuasion all walked in to bar .......
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Paul Houston
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12:41 PM on 02/19/2012
Then a fight broke out!
09:45 AM on 02/19/2012
commented to create a laugth yesterday on this story , got a bad reaction from a couple of non religious huffers , then they removed my comment , it was a good one to , some people got no sense of humour .
03:27 PM on 02/19/2012
put it on again,we all need a good laugh !! stuff the AOL,gastapo!!
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wincanton man
09:05 AM on 02/19/2012
Yay!
08:37 AM on 02/19/2012
Prayers should have no place in public arenas like council chambers, on the basis that it excludes those who don't share that particular faith, have no faith, or find that particular faith offensive. What on earth has praying to a fictional sky fairy got to do with emptying our bins, or dog poo on our pavements anyway? This isn't "intolerant secularism" or "political correctness", this is just good manners, consideration for others and the democratic ideal. No one minds if Eric Pickles and his God-bothering friends want to pray privately beforehand, or play the bagpipes, or wave their knickers in the air - but not in publicly-owned and run council chambers please!