HSBC Set To Reveal Huge Profits And Bonuses On Monday

Hsbc Profits Bonuses

First Posted: 26/02/2012 12:52 Updated: 26/02/2012 12:58   PA

Profits of more than £14 billion and a pay package worth up to £12.5 million for its chief executive are set to be revealed by HSBC tomorrow.

City analysts estimate that profits for 2011 could hit 22.3 billion US dollars (£14.1 billion), which would be among the biggest ever reported by a British company and close to its record of 24 billion US dollars set in 2007.

Chief executive Stuart Gulliver could be awarded a total package worth up to £12.5 million as his £1.25 million salary will be boosted by a £3.75 million bonus and long-term incentives potentially worth up to £7.5 million. The final element will be in shares and cannot be sold until he retires or leaves HSBC.

The banking giant makes an estimated 90% of its money outside Britain and has benefited from its exposure to emerging markets in Asia. It is expected to say that it will focus its efforts on growing economies such as China, while maintaining its market share in lower growth areas such as Europe.

Its British operations are expected to show flat profits for 2011, while its American arm continues to suffer the fall-out from the acquisition of sub-prime lender Household in 2002, reports today said.

Barclays, RBS and Lloyds have already said that they have cut their bonus pools amid falling profits, though it remains to be seen whether HSBC will follow suit by reducing pay at its investment banking arm.

In 2010, it paid its 295,000 staff some 19.8 billion US dollars (£12.6 billion), while its highest paid banker was paid between £8.4 million and £8.5 million.

But it is under less pressure to act because it did not need to go cap in hand to taxpayers in the financial crisis. Its profits are likely to be more than double the £5.9 billion reported by Barclays earlier this month.

The bank is also expected to reveal the pay for its top eight executives, in line with new disclosure rules due to come into force later this year.

And it will reportedly create hundreds of millions of pounds of new shares, which it will sell on the market to fund the cash element of larger bonuses for UK staff.

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Profits of more than £14 billion and a pay package worth up to £12.5 million for its chief executive are set to be revealed by HSBC tomorrow. City analysts estimate that profits for 2011 could hi...
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champagne charlie
Ayn Rand and social Darwinism are just wrong!
12:21 on 27/02/2012
Time to get out and sharpen the guillotine!
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Joyce70
Verba volant, scripta manent
00:06 on 27/02/2012
1- Huge Profits
2- Huge Bonuses
3- And soon, huge job cuts and redundancies?
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Mickey Mouse 1
There are no lies or deceit on a chess board.
23:35 on 26/02/2012
The only bank who's shares are worth owning.
23:31 on 26/02/2012
Maybe the govenment should ask HSBC for assistance with the lame dogs of Lloyds TSB and RBS.
Lloyds TSB can se no further than giving the're staff olympic badges and ties and waisting money on sponsorship, so that the're executives can go to the games and sit in the best seats. Paid with bailed out tax payers money. TSB the govenment sold once brought it back, hoping to sell it again. Scam. Now got RBS in tow.
22:08 on 26/02/2012
Whilst it is understandable to become angry at bankers' bonuses, may I add some food for thought?

A banker working in the UK pays 50% tax and 2% National Insurance (NIC) on a bonus and the bank has to pay 13.8% in NIC as well. So for a £1M bonus, HMRC collect £520,000 from the banker and another £138,000 from the bank,

If the banker was not paid a bonus, the banks have billions in Coporate Losses to now carry forward so there will be no Corporation Tax paid by the bank at all and HMRC collects nothing.

I appreciate that it is asking a lot to put aside the morale argument, but is it not better for the taxpayer to receive £658,000 for every £1M paid to these bankers, particularly when the country needs as much money as it can get?
20:20 on 26/02/2012
Another example of those who destroyed the economy are rewarding themselves without merit with bonus money after taking tax payer bailout money. No one should be surprised in the spring/summer when the occupy movement gets rolling after this kind of example of greed that this and the other banks have shown. Karma will come back for them.
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Mickey Mouse 1
There are no lies or deceit on a chess board.
23:45 on 26/02/2012
Bankers did not destroy this country, the Labour government did.
00:06 on 27/02/2012
parrotfish - HSBC did not take a single penny from the taxpayer - only 5 banks did out of 500 operating in the UK
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NOSHER
20:19 on 26/02/2012
that is disgracefull why dont they give some bonuses to the country to help the poor people they are the ones that put them there and if this comment doesnt get published im out of here to another news site who listens to free speech
19:30 on 26/02/2012
And they wonder why are youth won,t work. This sends out the wrong message . Millions are forced into poverty because of these banks for many years to come`yet it`s the ordinary people who have to go without and pay the deficit and cuts while these people pay nothing and receive disgusting large bonuses for putting us in this mess . Whats going on here. Have we got mugs written on are fore heads.
00:10 on 27/02/2012
alanfinddlay 1 - HSBC have not taken a single penny from the taxpayer - so good luck to them as far as I'm concerned - I have banked with them for years - my only wish is they move out of the UK back to the Far East where 90% of their business is located - it is absurd to have the Head Office of a business in a place where you do a negligible share of your business
19:24 on 26/02/2012
Man is generally at the peak of lower learning... Man has forgotten so much. This has happened before and humanity is going on the same cycle. Only a few are truly free and will escape hell.
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meddleman
19:11 on 26/02/2012
Take note Stephen Hester: this is how to run a bank and how to deserve a bonus! And not a penny fron the UK government!
19:33 on 26/02/2012
Rubbish `it was the banks who caused this mess through there selfish greed.
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Mickey Mouse 1
There are no lies or deceit on a chess board.
23:47 on 26/02/2012
The Labour government destroyed this country, not the banks.
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Philduck
17:47 on 26/02/2012
..and don't they just deserve it!
17:08 on 26/02/2012
they should be on five pounds an hour thats what there worth no way do they need that sort of payment you know what we are all special at what we do and are worth everything to our work place but we dont expect big bonus at the end of the year just like the bankers who gamble with peoples hard earned saveings and what do we get from them
16:48 on 26/02/2012
Man , you poor chaps are getting screwed almost as badly as us Americans.

I guess our model of capitalism is infectious.

I'm sorry.........................
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Mickey Mouse 1
There are no lies or deceit on a chess board.
23:50 on 26/02/2012
You should be, the credit crunch was exported around the world from America. Why haven't you sued someone for starting it?
00:11 on 27/02/2012
At present we're dealing with an infestation of moronic blue collar conservatism.

Can't seem to educate them, or get rid of them.

Sorry..............
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redsquad
Shootin' from the lip
16:37 on 26/02/2012
Yes, because the chief worked so hard all by himself to earn those profits didn't he? The "little people" actually doing the work had nothing to do with it.

For all the arguments for these bonus payments, from "they earned it" through "you have to pay for the best" right up to "it was in their contract", I have yet to hear a single reason why one individual NEEDS 12,000,000 all to themselves for simply doing their 'job'.
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jessjesskk
Benevolent Zombie Power
17:31 on 26/02/2012
two answers
- 1st, when you manage assets worth hundreds of billions, a 1% difference on 200bn is 2bn. Shareholders are ready to pay someone 10m if they believe the guys they pay allow them to get 2% rather than 1%, it's a very rationale trade for the shareholders (who are the one paying, remember)
- 2nd, in investment banking, motivation of the individual matters, revenue are chased by individuals based on their network and their skills. To get back to the basic example: assume that a MD in bank has a revenue budget for the year of $30m, and assume that in a OK year he reaches this these revenue in June. Why should he chase more revenue for the year, worl like a dog and travel around the world if he has no incentive, instead of resting and keeping munitions for the following year? the bank if much better off paying 2m of bonus on 80m revenue than on no bonus but 40m of revenue.. again a very rationale trade

It's not a question of NEEDING the bonus, it's a question of having the power to ask to those who already have this money (the shareholders) to pay in order to be better off...
00:16 on 27/02/2012
redsquad - for the same reason Wayne Rooney need more than twice £12 million ( £25 million in fact ) for kicking a bag of wind around Manchester on a Saturday afternoon .

The shareholders of the HSBC bank vote on his bonuses - if they don't approve them he doesn't hget them - but bearing in mind the profit made they think he is worth it - I'm not so sure many football managers and players are worth theirs
16:26 on 26/02/2012
take your money out of banks its better at home then they carnt use it for there gain
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