Rail Fares To Rise As Transport Secretary Justine Greening Reveals Subsidy Cuts

The Huffington Post UK   First Posted: 08/03/2012 11:56 Updated: 08/03/2012 13:16

The government will reduce taxpayer contributions to the railways in Britain by £3.6bn a year before 2019, in a move which rail groups and unions fear will lead to job losses, the closure of hundreds of ticket offices and higher fares.

Transport Secretary Justine Greening told MPs that she was accepting the recommendations of Sir Roy McNulty in a report published last year. "We need to tackle the problem of our inefficient railway," she told MPs.

The McNulty report claimed that some ticket offices in smaller stations should be closed, peak fares should rise even faster than inflation than at present, and that overall costs in the railways should be reduced by a third.

This has seen transport unions warn that accepting the proposals would lead to thousands of job losses.

It's thought that the reforms could lead to more than 600 smaller ticket offices in England and Wales being closed.

The RMT and TSSA unions both believe that 12,000 raliway workers' jobs could be under threat under the reforms.

Greening said she favoured giving the train operating companies greater control over the network, along with Network Rail's regional offices having a bigger say over the operation of the railway lines. She also outlined plans for "smart ticketing", which would be the nationwide roll-out of a scheme similar to the Oyster card service which runs throughout London.

The Oyster card has been blamed by unions for the reduction in staffed ticket offices throughout the capital, but allows passengers to set up an 'auto top-up' which takes money straight from their bank accounts as they pass through the barriers at railway stations

Some believe that the cuts to the network are borne out of a need to divert funds to the government's controversial HS2 line, to be built between London and Birmingham in the first instance, and later to run further north. The head of the Office of Rail Regulation speculated that the changes were because of HS2 in a recent letter to the Financial Times.

Labour accused the government of putting the concerns of private train companies before passengers.

Shadow Transport Secretary Maria Eagle branded the decision "a dangerous experiment" which could lead to the break-up of the railway system. She accused Greening of passing the burden of cost to the fare-payers, rather than the train operating companies, which she claimed were making "huge profits".

Justine Greening said she accepted that passengers valued face-to-face ticket officers, but insisted that Labour also cut their opening hours while in office. She added that she was looking at ways of allowing people to buy train tickets at libraries, post offices and other local shops.

She insisted she wanted to "move ticketing into the 21st Century," to foster an approach where options for buying tickets were more in touch with people's lifestyles.

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07:39 AM on 04/19/2012
Fewer trains and buses a lot of routes canceled , some country routes gone altogether overcrowding on trains would fail any health and safety regs,old scrapped rolling stock bought out of the scrapyard doggeg up and passed off as new, but the government dont give a toss all they want is the money ,train companies dont give a toss as long as they get subsidised and get the share price up on public money ,

Iv been to other countries and our public transport is a disgrace ,its dirty badly maintained and far to expensive ,the only consistant thing about it is you just know the train will be late or cancelled and your getting ripped off .
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01:28 AM on 04/18/2012
dont know what the fuss is about...if you want a product you pay for it/ /you choose to travel by train so pay your fare and stop whinging
09:05 AM on 04/02/2012
stop all of the subsidies to the so called private companies that run public transport and make these companies run a company as it should be run ,on its own merit .

We are now getting closer to a Mad Max society =vat in the channel islands on items bought were vat free if under £15 = all gone, taxes on buses trains planes , PETROL DIESEL COOKING OIL WHITE SPRIT PARAFINN taxes on everything and more tax .

Well when the riots start again this summer don,t be surprised !
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01:09 PM on 03/21/2012
"Subsidy Cuts."
Not a problem. Simply allow the taxpayer to finance parallel rails alongside those existing. Passengers would then have a whip-round, so that their driver could divert onto this alternative toll -track.

"We need to tackle the problem of our inefficient railway,"
Two options. Turn it over to private enterprise gatekeepers, and let them price it out of existence. Or just axe it.

"Some believe that the cuts to the network are borne out of a need to divert funds to the government's controversial HS2 line"
Which does of course make perfect sense. Provided that all the paralysed passenger traffic resulting, can also be redirected to that one line.

"Labour accused the government of putting the concerns of private train companies before passengers."
Don’t Labour realise that profits are far more important than people ever will be.

"she was looking at ways of allowing people to buy train tickets at libraries, post offices and other local shops."
What's libraries, post offices, and shops mummy?

"move ticketing into the 21st Century,"
by introducing ticket touts into the system.
07:41 PM on 03/20/2012
What do you do in a country where it costs to much just to get to work ?
11:13 AM on 03/19/2012
Maybe a solution is, everyone that uses the railway to get to and from work, form a little company, trading as so and so, then claim your rail fares as work related expenses against tax.
08:10 AM on 03/17/2012
Go to Germany plan your trip and bingo the trains are always on time barring a nuclear event in winter they are warm and in summer they are air conditioned and above all they are clean very clean
and the price of the ticket per trip wont skin you alive .

So why is it that in the land that invented the train we just keep getting ripped off with dirty trains that dont work ,rarely arrive on time and cost a fortune !

A news item on south west trains showed rolling stock being fitted with new interiors what they forgot to tell you was all of the rolling stock was bought back from the scrap yards from where they were sold off !

This is not the first time old rolling stock has been used, a certain rail company that sounds like a woman who has not been deflowered used rolling stock that was 50 /60 years old and presented it as new stock ,boot sale Britain dont cover it !
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07:24 AM on 03/15/2012
You cannot control what you don't own it is as simple as that. Having privatised our transport system and allowed privateers for profit companies to operate more or less at their will it is hard to imagine that fares will ever be reduced when the end game is simply to make money out of the necessity of travel. When railways and bus services were controlled by government ro provide a service to enable the entire nation freedom of travel our biggest problem was how to control wages and the amount we were prepared to invest in research and renewal. Of course those of us who are investors in fortune will naturally have a conlfict of interest as on the one hand we want a good return on our investment whilst on the other trying to appear concerned. The government may well own the infrastructure upon which the railway operators run their rolling stock but equally the more the operators make the more the government make and everone is happy? No because the government out of their share of the take want to reduce the subsidy they pay to keep the fares down. Ever decreasing circles one might say. The worse case scenario is the charade of the Minister of Transpoort and the mayour of London play out in trying to fool the public they have any control of the matter of fares.
12:49 AM on 03/10/2012
again, the public have to pay more for less. This is beyond the need for efficiency, it is beyond the need for tax savings, it is another burden on the workers who have no alternative but to get the train to and from work. This, together with the emasculation of the NHS is leading only to one thing....the end of the coalition. Where are the efforts to get GB working? Where are the mass protests at such a smack in the face of every person in the UK? I've said it before and I will say it again; GB now stand for Gulag Britain. We are an island prison, subject to the ''do as we say brigade'' do not think of going abroad for a bit of sun, we are all prisoners of our communities. When was the last time we looked forward to taking the family for a ride in the car or the train to the coast? It doesn't happen anymore...no one can afford the time off work, assuming you have a job, no one can realistically travel further that a few miles for leisure and entertainment. If you did, the cost is punitive. Get them out!
03:54 PM on 03/09/2012
Both the Minister and report writer are mad.

With the numbers of different rail companies, the myriads of types of tickets and special deals and the journeys that cut across boundaries and companies, they cannot realistically expect staff at the Public Library or corner shop to know what they are selling.

Credit on an Oyster Card might make sense for fixed fares, but if you turn up at a train station how would the machine know what amount to debit ? And if you had to key your journey into a machine, what is the difference between the Oyster Card and a credit card ?

They will just cut £3.9B+ from the railways knowing that their recommendations are quite duplicitous.
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10:32 PM on 03/08/2012
It's a fact that Germany's Annual(National) rail ticket is £400.00 cheaper than our (Limited) rail ticket...What does that tell us'.That we're being riped-off...Maybe..?...and the German railways are much more reliable and less crowded...Checkn it out'..Don't take my word for it..?
12:21 PM on 03/09/2012
f & f casual agent . . . it's unbelievable . . . .how are people supposed to afford to get to work . . it boggles the mind big time
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01:03 PM on 03/09/2012
Perhaps Boris' would like to buy everyone a bike...?..lol
10:14 PM on 03/08/2012
A well, I suppose we'd better get ready for gridlock on our roads (if we can still afford the petrol)
08:06 PM on 03/08/2012
Rail travel-Another British institution that the Conservatives hate, just like the NHS.

Remember Beeching? That was under a Conservative Government. Thatcher had no interest in the railways and the system started to wither under her leadership until privatisation.

Now we have Greening.

A former accountant "Prior to entering Parliament, she trained and qualified[3] as an accountant, before working as an accountant/finance manager for, amongst others, Price Waterhouse Coopers, GlaxoSmithKline and Centrica." according to Wikipedia.

The accountants are in, the fares will go up, jobs will be lost, the owners of the privatised parts will get richer and the Conservatives will try to let the railways wither and die.
11:22 AM on 03/09/2012
How will the privatized parts prosper if the railways wither and fade? You cannot just knock out criticism taking both sides of an argument!
04:57 PM on 03/09/2012
I did not argue that the railways will die, but it will mean a very thin system.

The privatised parts that a few will make money on will be those in the commuter belt, which, as you are from the US judging by your spelling is around London. These are the profit making lines.

The main lines between London, Birmingham and Manchester will also be fairly profitable, but other lines and stations will close. This happened after Beeching http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beeching_Axe and many rural areas were left without railway lines and stations.

The rail lines were supposed to be well served by buses, but they were privatised and many of those bus services have stopped. In many areas, no buses run on public holidays because it cuts down on their profits. The railway companies also cut their services on public holidays. This is fine if you have a car, but no good to older people or people who do not drive.

Looking farther ahead, there will be less fuel for private transport about and if track is pulled up, there will be less opportunity for people to get about. It is quicker and more profitable to tear up a railway line than to lay one
08:00 PM on 03/08/2012
There is no way this country is going to recover from this financial mess. This coalition are way far to out of touch with the real world.
07:46 PM on 03/08/2012
disgusting wrong immoral if these workers will loose their jobs thats what you get for privatisation
more people on benefits