Abortion Forms: BPAS Asks Why Pre-Signing Claims Went To Press Before Police

Posted: 23/03/2012 10:31 Updated: 23/03/2012 15:01

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The government has been accused of political manoeuvering over the issue of abortion after details of alleged illegal activity at clinics were given to the press before providers or the police.

The British Pregnancy Advisory Service (BPAS) said the decision to pass on the information over the claims, which revealed that up to one in five clinics may be illegally pre-signing abortion forms, risked polarising the debate further and bringing abortion providers under further stress.

The result of unannounced "raids" by health regulator the Care Quality Commission (CQC), which finished on Thursday night, was announced in newspapers on Friday before parliament, the police and abortion providers were aware of them, BPAS says.

Lansley was quoted in reports saying he was "shocked and appalled" by the claims reports that the CQC had found doctors in abortion clinics were suspected of illegally pre-signing forms that would allow women to have a termination. The health secretary told The Daily Telegraph that the department would take action soon: "If there is evidence of an offence we will give it to the police."

BPAS told The Huffington Post UK they were upset that they had not been personally informed of the serious allegations, especially at a time when abortion providers already feel "under attack".

Abigail Fitzgibbon, Public Policy Manager at BPAS said there was "no suggestion" the doctors in the clinics were doing anything illegal, and railed against how "unclear" the Department of Health had been about the findings.

"The thing about this is it's very unclear - all we've seen is the press release. I don't know what it is that these un-named doctors in these un-named clinics are supposed to have done. Pre-signing forms shouldn't be done.

"The CQC wrapped up their investigation yesterday afternoon and they were briefing the press about it at the same time. We found out about it from the media," she said.

The General Medical Council said the claims were a matter for the police, telling The Huffington Post UK they had not referred any doctors to the authorities "just yet" as they did not yet have the full information.

"This is a criminal offence and we would refer those doctors to the police. The information that you have is the information we have."

BPAS' Fitzgibbon said that providers now felt "under attack" after a month where their website was hacked by an anti-abortion cyber criminal and faced pro-life group 40 days for life filming women outside their clinic. She told The Huffington Post UK that if the Secretary of State "really cared about women" he would engage with the issues instead of making what appeared to be a "very big political statement."

"It's kind of taking its toll on our staff," she said. "I really do feel very emotional about this. Over the last month or so we've had our website hacked by a cyber-criminal, we've had 40 days for life outside.

"Andrew Lansley had nothing to say when we were hacked, and when we had people filming outside our clinic.

"He's not concerned about women or staff in abortion clinics. There are so many things we could talk to him about about women and sexual healths.

"There are so many ways he could improve provision for women. He's suddenly ordered these raids on clinics. It's so worrying because you expect it from Nadine Dorries but for the Secretary of State to start using abortion in this way it can only go one way and we've seen that in the States."

"This appears to be a very big political statement and that is just really, really frightening for providers.

"When you start using that kind of language ... then you attract extremists," Fitzgibbon said.

Conservative MP Nadine Dorries has called for the 1967 Abortion Act to be brought back before parliament, but declined to elaborate on the topic when contacted by the Huffington Post UK.

Anti-abortion charity LIFE spokesperson Niall Gooch said: “The results of the investigation show that a large number of abortion clinics are operating in a fashion which is complacent, fraudulent and potentially harmful to women’s health.

"We welcome the plans for further investigation, and are grateful for Health Secretary Andrew Lansley’s reaffirmation that the 1967 Abortion Act does not allow abortion on demand, or establish a “right” to abortion," they said in a statement.

A spokesperson for the CQC said: "The Secretary of State asked CQC, as the regulatory agency with direct powers to inspect and seize evidence across the NHS and independent sector, to conduct these inspections as a priority.

"Where our inspectors discovered pre-signed forms indicating that providers were breaking the law - we will share this information with the police and the GMC.

"CQC will also be considering what regulatory action we will be taking against these providers.

"We will be publishing individual reports on all providers inspected shortly and cannot legally identify non-compliant services until this point."

The Department for Health has not yet commented on the issue.

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06:18 AM on 03/26/2012
Abortion is a sensitive, and debatable issue,
which if we all told the truth wish had never existed.
but due too the fact we are human i does.
A sad event, in any womans life, and also the man
who never seems to taken into consideration.
wes
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vividrick
I came, I saw...I had a cup of tea!
09:23 PM on 03/23/2012
If the Met have any gumption, they'd make an official statement to declare they should have been given priority notice if there's any illegal activity, therefore making the investigation that tad bit easier to deal with under the circumstances.
08:23 PM on 03/23/2012
My guess is the pro-lifers have signed up multiples times to as to appear as various people supporting laws which remove a woman's right to her own body.

I think it's ridiculous that not one, but TWO doctors have to sign before a woman is "allowed" by the state to have an abortion in the first place.

The only person who should be signing anything is the woman requesting an abortion.
End of story.
Southern law girl
Researching my viewpoint....
08:51 PM on 03/23/2012
No, with respect you are wrong. Nobody is above the law of England and Wales, and that includes pregnant woman, whether they want to be pregnant or not, what you are objecting to is enshrined in law. Anyone can lobby their MP for the law to be changed, or to campaign for what they believe in, so if that is what you believe in, start campaigning!
07:38 AM on 03/24/2012
I don't think HMK99 was advocating breaking the law. You have the right idea, though, the law is outdated and should be consigned to history. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing thing that the government is politicizing the debate. Public opinion is not on their side, the response can and should be a political campaign to do away with this offensive law.
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GingerlyColors
No will to change it, no right to criticize it
04:48 AM on 03/24/2012
The issue is when it is acceptable to terminate a pregnancy. Some say that abortion is wrong under any circumstances after the egg has been fertilised while some pro-choicers demand the right to an abortion up to the moment of birth. Some South American countries ban abortion altogether - even in the event of a threat to maternal health while in China there have been cases of newborn babies being drowned due to the country's One Child policy. Great Britain (but not Northern Ireland) has perhaps the most liberal laws on abortion in Europe with the time limit set at 24 weeks while many countries on mainland Europe set the limit at 12 or 13 weeks, the end of the first trimester when the embryo's limbs fully develop and becomes a foetus. The debate about abortion will continue until the cows come home but personally, I would like to see the time limit set to 13 weeks.
10:24 AM on 03/24/2012
No the issue here is politics being placed above the law on both sides.

Whether you agree that the law needs to be changed or not, doctors presigning forms may not be technically illegal but it breaks the spirit of it. Plus when undergoing a procedure whether it is getting my tonsils out or undergoing an abortion I want at least one doctor to review all my assessment before getting the go ahead. Plus the BPAS should not be crying foul - a regulatory authority does not need to call them to inform them of the status of an ongoing investigation, it doesn't need to apologise for inspections unless BPAS can show the clinics in question are being presecuted by the CQC. If anything the BPAS should be distincing itself from clinics that practice presigning because how exactly does it promote the care, apart from saving a bit of time and money? Also with something as sensitive as abortion every clinic should be making sure that the nutjobs don't get any leverage, let alone be it on paperwork.

However it is not up to Andrew Lansley to decide if a crime/medical negilgence has been commited. He should not in any way shape or form be saying that if there is evidence of an offence they'll pass it on - any irregulatories should pass it on then let the bodies involved decide (police/GMC) and then let the abortion providers, DOH and all who want to amend said laws deal with it.
07:28 PM on 03/23/2012
Here we go again, with a polarising of the abortion issue. It is easy to make statements around 'viability' and a woman's "right to choose", but it isn't a little more complex than this. I agree that 'life is life'. What however are we do when an 'unborn' - NB neutral term - is found to have a severely compromised quality of life ahead of it, because of say inherent genetical faults? I've actually had the 'dubious pleasure' of counselling a couple with a double 'silver bullet' unborn. They took the abortion route, but only after much 'soul searching'... I am no way advocating on-demand abortion but, can we please have a sensible debate about this....please......?????????
08:57 PM on 03/23/2012
Sheer idiocy. This about things that are not yet viable human beings.
11:01 PM on 03/23/2012
you clearly having a literacy problem matey! Read my final line! Oh and whilst I think about it, you'd maybe like to think on the words of a number of young women I've counselled and whose repeated cry is "I just want my baby back!" This after they'd been convinced t go down the "convenience route". Yr position is however beneath contemptible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:51 AM on 03/24/2012
Neither are you.
05:30 PM on 03/23/2012
Margaret T posted such a brilliant point I repeat it verbatim:

People don't say "I'm having a foetus" do they?

Indeed. Well put.
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05:23 PM on 03/23/2012
For so long, a vocal minority on the left in this country have argued that the lack of viability is a justification, not for the withdrawal of medical support, but the active commission of a murderous assault and battery on the body of a defenceless human being.

So, a newborn baby is clearly not viable by any definition of the word. Should mums and dads be allowed to actively kill them? Even neglecting to adequately care for a child, however unwanted, is punishable by law. Where is the woman's almighty Right to Choose in that instance?

Inconsistency, that's what leaning too far left leaves one with...

Abortion is murder.
Southern law girl
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09:25 PM on 03/23/2012
I agree, but really, I believe abortion is murder. It does not come under the classic definition of murder 'as such', because the law allows it, but morally I believe it is and I am not afraid to say so and stand up for what I believe in. If a pregnant woman is killed, the Judge makes statement as to the murder of the woman and the illegal killing of her unborn child. I have a job to reconcile, on the one hand, the illegal killing of an unborn child as being illegal, but on the other hand, the Q of viability being good enough reason to justify abortion ie the killing of an unborn child. Some individuals argue it is just a cell mass, maybe technically very early on, but it has to be remembered that cell mass is alive and kicking! The general attitude to abortion now is a quick fix for an unwanted pregnancy. But I often wonder what those woman who have abortions really go through mentally, if they don't, one has to wonder what feelings they have, or if they really do comprehend the enormity of what they are doing.

I understand there are sometimes circumstances where women are faced with the unenviable task of having to make a decision, especially if their life is at risk to continue with that pregnancy.
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GingerlyColors
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04:54 AM on 03/24/2012
Should somebody who murders a pregnant woman be tried for two murders? Or should he be tried for illegal abortion as well as murder? Or murder and child destruction?
In Britain there is a little used law called Child Destruction which I believe has only been invoked once in over 100 years regarding a man who beat his pregnant girlfriend so badly that she miscarried. As far as I knew her pregnancy had progressed beyond the legal time-limit for abortion. He was sentenced to life imprisonment.
11:14 AM on 03/24/2012
I agree with you 100 percent, southern law girl.
Abortions often are taken too lightly, as a means
of birth control, after a drunken night out.
I have known several cases.
Just too add, i had to alter my user name, from
weskirk1, to weskirk12, due too the fact the website
would not accept weskirk1 any longer.
I reported this to huff/ nothing yet.
i do not know what is going on.
kind regards wes
05:12 PM on 03/23/2012
The article betrays its anti-life, pro-abortion bias.

It barely grapples with the issue of clear illegality and/or sharp practice, but pejoratively calls the investigation a "raid".

Hmmm...
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04:39 PM on 03/23/2012
By the way, anyone wishing to express their unhappiness at 40 days for life protesting outside BPAS clinics, there's a fundraising initiative in the below link- raising money for every day that they stay.

http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/fundraiser-web/fundraiser/showFundraiserProfilePage.action?userUrl=boycott40daysforlife&isTeam=true

and here's an article about that.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/mar/23/anti-abortion-40-days-of-life-vigils
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Norman Mitchison
04:30 PM on 03/23/2012
Another good reason to abolish quangos. Pay attention Campbell.
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04:21 PM on 03/23/2012
Sorry to hear that American style wacko abortion protests have spread to the U.K. Let's hope you don't get any bombings or shootings like the ones the "Pro-Life" folks have done in the States.
Southern law girl
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09:29 PM on 03/23/2012
I am "Pro-Life", but I don't go around doing the sort of thing you are referring to!!!!! : - / Remember, everyone has a right to their opinion, and a right to free speech, providing it doesn't infringe on hate speech.
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nete peedham
01:00 PM on 03/24/2012
I don't see your sort objecting to the murder of Dr. George Tiller! Or, as Fox News bigwig Bill O'Reilly repeated many times, 'Tiller the baby killer'.
I've been to the south. There's billboards all over the place pushing Fox News.
12:51 AM on 03/24/2012
I agree and Southern law girl Professor Wagstaff did not say anything about not able to have a right to their opinion.
03:51 PM on 03/23/2012
A baby is on a life-support machine all the time it is in the womb.It will need constant support once it is outside the womb until it is capable of supporting itself within society.It is an independent life form which deserves every opportunity to develop fully.No one should have the right to terminate its existence except in the most critical situations where the host life form cannot sustain its life support without extreme danger to both.
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04:10 PM on 03/23/2012
It's not your business what another woman does with her body.
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10:58 PM on 03/23/2012
A woman has within reason the right to do what she wants with her own body.But when she is pregnant,she is the host of another body,which is using her as a life support system.In most instances the woman has been aware that her actions could lead to pregnancy.With that awareness,she is making herself responsible for that dependent being who has an equal right to life under all normal circumstances.We allow the right of appeal to all criminals ,no matter how heinous their crimes.This was also the case before the death penalty was removed.But the voiceless and so powerless new being has no advocate to champion his/her case.The death penalty operates with light regulation restriction in the case of the unborn child.Innocent infants perish in our society thanks to the callousness of our abortion laws.
03:49 PM on 03/23/2012
The scandal of breaking the law is the story here, not the leaking to the press!

Even the Beeb is for once, on such a libleft red flag issue, reporting straight down the line on this one...

And abortion is murder, by the way.
05:20 PM on 03/23/2012
Akin - clearly you have no legal training if you say " abortion is murder - abortion is not murder and canot be murder - murder is the unlawful killing of a person in being with malice aforethought ..
A foetus is not in law a person in being so it cannot possibly be murdered .- refer A- 'G Ref No 3 of 1994 (1998) AC245(HL) Law Reports

You are of course entitled to hold your own personal opinion regarding abortion but you cannot impose your personal opinions on others.

Abortion it is a perfecly legal procedure and has been on the UK for almost half a century
11:17 PM on 03/23/2012
Abortion is the legalised(but morally wrong) killing of an individual being with aforethought through misguided and distorted thoughts of"compassion".
01:57 AM on 03/24/2012
From conception it is a life, a baby and therefore to terminate it is morally murderas the life has been terminated premeditatedly.
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12:53 PM on 03/24/2012
'...on such a libleft red flag issue...'

So you're just another toff-loving conservative.
03:46 PM on 03/23/2012
Abortion is a very personal issue, and should
be left too, the people concerned.
wes
03:50 PM on 03/23/2012
Including the Baby, Wes?
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04:27 PM on 03/23/2012
The foetus
12:36 AM on 03/24/2012
Once working in a hospital, i saw an aborted foetus
lying on a draining board,its little heart still beating,
left too die.
Words still fail me, how i felt, abortion should never
be taken lightly.
wes
03:24 PM on 03/23/2012
As I former foetus I'm against abortion. I do understand why people don't want children but abortion is people not taking responsibility for their actions. Yes, there are extreme cases, but those cases should not make it the norm. A large number of people who have abortions end up with mental health problems (look it up). Governments love abortion it because it stop population growth and spending. There was a time when people thought slavery was okay. It's the same for abortion and maybe one day we will realise this. Final thought - why do we put messages on cigarette packets warning mothers about the dangers of smoking. The baby's life matters until we decide we don't want it anymore - doesn't add up. This is not a religious view - just common sense. Rights should not overide what is immoral.
03:51 PM on 03/23/2012
Well put, Mr!
Southern law girl
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07:09 PM on 03/24/2012
I agree!
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janno000
04:30 PM on 03/23/2012
Well said.
Southern law girl
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07:11 PM on 03/24/2012
I agree!
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02:10 PM on 03/23/2012
Lets not start this American nonsense across here.
03:51 PM on 03/23/2012
What, having a debate on the news?