M5 Crash: Coach And Lorry Collide On Motorway In West Midlands (PICTURES)

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UPDATE: Sky News is reporting that the coach involved in a crash on the M5 had broken down on the motorway when it was hit by a lorry.

UPDATE: Police this afternoon arrested the 49-year-old coach driver on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. He has been released on bail pending further enquiries.

One person was killed and 40 others injured when a coach and lorry crashed in fog on a motorway today.

Two people were seriously hurt in the accident near Frankley Services on the M5 in the West Midlands.

Forty people were treated at the scene, on the southbound carriageway between junctions three and four.

Police said the death and one serious injury were from the coach, and the driver of the lorry was also in a serious condition. No children were involved.

West Midlands Ambulance Service said a large number of resources had been sent to the scene on the southbound carriageway of the M5 between junctions three and four.

A spokesman for the ambulance service said several ambulances, rapid response vehicles and a hazardous area response team had been deployed to the incident along with doctors and ambulance officers.

The spokesman said a number of patients were currently being conveyed to various hospitals across the area.

"Whilst the majority of patients appear to be walking wounded there are a small number with potentially serious injuries," the spokesman added.

West Midlands Police said no children had been involved in the accident and confirmed that the driver of the lorry was among those seriously injured.

The affected stretch of the M5 is likely to remain closed in both directions for a considerable time and motorists are being advised to find alternative routes.

Eye witness Paul Guppy told BBC News that there were fog patches on the motorway at the time of the crash.

He was driving on the opposite carriageway at about 6.40am.

"There were fog patches, because I was driving through it with my fog lights on. That area is renowned for having fog, there's a lot of low-lying land.

"It was quite horrendous at the time, and then it cleared. Whether the fog was a contributory thing, I don't know."

The coach seemed to have been hit from the rear, on its offside, and was leaning, virtually intact, against a crash barrier, he said.

A number of passengers on the coach had non life threatening injuries and were receiving medical attention.

Police were called at approximately 6.24am via a 999 call to reports of a serious road traffic accident.

West Midlands Ambulance Service said later that 40 people had been assessed and treated at the scene, of whom 27 had been taken to various hospitals around the region.

Ambulance crews took injured people to Queen Elizabeth, City and Sandwell hospitals in Birmingham, and Alexandra Hospital, Redditch.

West Midlands Ambulance Service assistant chief ambulance officer Steve Wheaton told Sky News: "It was a very foggy stretch of road this morning. Police are investigating the exact cause, but the weather has not been helpful."

The coach involved in the crash carried a logo of the company Stagecoach, but a spokesman for the firm said it had been sold to a dealer 18 months ago.

The spokesman did not know who it was sold to.

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UPDATE: Sky News is reporting that the coach involved in a crash on the M5 had broken down on the motorway when it was hit by a lorry. UPDATE: Police this afternoon arrested the 49-year-old coach d...
UPDATE: Sky News is reporting that the coach involved in a crash on the M5 had broken down on the motorway when it was hit by a lorry. UPDATE: Police this afternoon arrested the 49-year-old coach d...
 
 
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03:36 PM on 03/24/2012
Not much of an eye witness when the impact is clearly nearside
03:22 PM on 03/24/2012
I am a lorry driver for a national delivery company and our vehicles like most have limiters fitted so the lorry can only do a maximum of 56mph which is faster enough, but more often than not I am constantly overtaken by lorries owned by the company which is involved in this accident called CoolChain, they leave other lorries standing as if they do not have limiters fitted to their vehicles which is illegal by the way.. but they get away with. Coolchain drivers speed and drive dangerously..
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05:11 PM on 03/24/2012
Actually its the bus driver who has been charged with reckless driving.
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saying it like it is
02:52 PM on 03/24/2012
surely if the bus had broken down then it would have had it's hazard lights on?
giving traffic time to see it, even in the fog.
maybe the truck driver saw it too late due to the fog or the bus hadn't made it to the hard shoulder.
either way the police report of the accident will discover the cause/fault in the end.
R.I.P to the person that lost their life.
02:55 PM on 03/24/2012
Some drivers don't see hazard lights. Too busy reading texts
02:37 PM on 03/24/2012
Driving down that road every day at about the same time each week day its right at the end of the 40mph temp speed limit that ends at frankly services it can get pretty foggy there in certain conditions as the lickey and clent hills cause a divide in weather conditions of which the motorway runs through them it can be sparadic. the work where the accident happened seems to have been at the point where the central barrier was finished now sporting the anti crossover concrete barrier and the speed limit would have started back to 70 again for a few hundred yards. but unless you was actualy there at the time you can not speculate the cause.
02:26 PM on 03/24/2012
why didnt the coach pull to hard shoulder? Coach driver is to blaim here. I think the slogan written on the side of the bus says it all really, "Another fine mess you've gotten me into"!
03:33 PM on 03/24/2012
he had broken down can you not read
04:20 PM on 03/24/2012
If the coach had broken down do you expect the driver to push it to the hard shoulder. Duh!!!!
02:11 PM on 03/24/2012
I think the reporter needs to go back to Reporter School. Stagecoach may no longer own the vehicle and their spokes person may not know who it was sold to. The coach appears to be operated by Fusion Personnel Ltd, 427 Quinton Rd, Quinton B32 1QH. Legal requirement to state that information which is clearly visible on the side of the coach.
04:07 PM on 03/24/2012
Fusion Personnel do not own and opperate this bus. A simple google search will show that they are a local recruitment agency and their name is an advert on the side of the bus.

Do your homework before posting stupid comments.
02:04 PM on 03/24/2012
THE REST OF MY RANT
Drivers on Phones, PhEW I hate em! I counted about 30 car drivers in the space of 20 25 min on the M1 in slow traffic recently. J28 J29. Either texting or using there phone. Its not just truck drivers it seems to BE THE MAJORITY of us. Hands up those of us who aren’t guilty of a bit of bad driving, because I know I am, People’s attitudes towards one another whilst driving needs to change, Slow down a bit, driving a truck like a lunatic all day will eventually get someone killed, most truck drivers get paid by the hour. So why speed?
Bad driving or because your texting Eating drinking brushing you hair or rolling a cig will kill people.
I recently saw a driver with a dog on her lap! What! A14 south in December, and yes love it was me who called the police,
The Cheshire Police now use an unmarked HGV fitted with cameras to look down on cars and into trucks as they pass, what a good idea.
02:46 PM on 03/24/2012
Yes well said, the amount of people I see on mobile phones still amazes me when there are supposed to fining laws in place! Yes and also the general standard of driving is just rubbish nowadays - who passes these people on their driving tests, but then I suppose we must remember that there are an awful lot of foreign drivers here in Britain now who have not had to go through our tough driving tests!
04:17 PM on 03/24/2012
People probably still go on their mobiles all the time whilst driving along as they know they can get away with it in the main, you'd have to be blind not to see a police car coming your way or very oblivious to the traffic around you not to - not a good idea when you're driving along of course!People probably get caught going on their mobiles when nabbed by and unmarked police car though. I'm not saying I do this, I'm just being realistic an educating a guess. Despite there being laws in place to prevent this people will often text or ring on their mobiles when they're waiting for a set of lights to change to green in an urban area..
02:00 PM on 03/24/2012
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I Have driven Trucks of all types and sizes in the uk and Europe for over for over thirty five years and it seems to me the standard of driving on our roads, (uk) has detireated dramatically in the last few years. Foreign HGVs visiting the uk will have to pay a daily road tax, This comes into force sometime this year. I’m not sure of the price but I think its somewhere in the region of £10. Per day.
I Can not see how anyone can judge what happened or who was at fault from the photos,
As for transport firms getting a “fine” of £1000 when they are late or fail a booking slot, is not entirely true, Most big supermarket chains do have this type of rule, but it would only happen if you where constantly late to a certain delivery point.
01:52 PM on 03/24/2012
Every one is quick to put blame on the lorry driver over this accident and wanting to get lorrys off the roads but look at it like this without the lorrys you would all be stuffed.Why?? Well look around you and what do you see everything that you can see has at some time been on the back of a lorry.what is carried in the back of 1 lorry you would need atleast 30 vans per full load so thats more traffic on the roads the cost of living would go up because you have to pay to run those vans and pay the drivers wages.
Now if you look back at the accident report stagecoach say the bus was sold on 18 months ago so why didnt they take the logos off the bus they do it at our local bus garage thats a stagecoach one
01:33 PM on 03/24/2012
My thoughts are with all those injured.
01:22 PM on 03/24/2012
if you look the bus is in the wrong lane
01:38 PM on 03/24/2012
The bus had broken down and was hit by the lorry in the fog! The bus had probably been pushed over to the central reservation due to the impact of the lorry hitting it so you cannot make assumptions as to what happened!
01:45 PM on 03/24/2012
If the coach had pulled into the hard shoulder,how did the lorry manage to hit it on the nearside then?
01:51 PM on 03/24/2012
Hooray someone who speaks sense, and is calling it a "bus" . It was a service bus and it has been confirmed it had broken down. I am not surprised to see the position it ended up in from the impact of the lorry. Service buses have no seat belts, unlike coaches and the passengers are more vulnerable because of this. I am sure questions will be asked why the passengers were still on it, or at least why they weren't moved down to the front even, which is more protected than the back seat in these circumstances.
01:56 PM on 03/24/2012
Have you not thought it may have been pushed there by the lorry hitting it?
03:38 PM on 03/24/2012
If the coach/bus was indeed in the hard shoulder,the lorry must have ben on the grass to have hit it where the inpact was,I guess it must have been on one of the carriageways
01:12 PM on 03/24/2012
sadly a lot of the bus operators choose to put advertising on the back of their vehicles instead of reflective markings ...
02:01 PM on 03/24/2012
Reflective markings are already built into the rear lights etc as required by law, modern advertising signs on the rear of vehicles including the windows are made in a way the driver can see through them without any impairment in there vision. The rear of this vehicle is generally white and the size of a barn door. You can't miss it unless you are not paying attention i.e. following the reflections of the cats eyes in their headlights instead of the road in front which is a major contribution in such accidents. More reflectors wouldn't make any difference. Ask any police officer who's stationary marked police vehicle has been hit by others not paying attention.
03:23 PM on 03/24/2012
ok I'll ask the lads when I get to work this afternoon!
01:01 PM on 03/24/2012
YOU SHOULD ALL BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES MAKING ASSUMPTIONS WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW. PEOPLE DIED IN FOGGY CONDITIONS IN AN ACCIDENT INVOLVING A LORRY AND A SERVICE BUS, (NOT A COACH). UNTIL YOU KNOW THE FACTS GIVE A THOUGHT TO THE FAMILIES THAT SAID GOODBYE TO THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS A FEW HOURS AGO, AND WILL NEVER SEE THEM AGAIN.
03:46 PM on 03/24/2012
quite right lets not make assumptions, wait untill the facts are known, please bear a thought to those involved before any more speculation
12:58 PM on 03/24/2012
I regularly overtake a very similar bus that has always got rear marker lights out and only one brake light working
12:45 PM on 03/24/2012
As the pictured coach banner slogan spells out in somewhat ironic Laurel and Hardy tones "Another Fine Mess You Got Me In To". Could well have been the lorry driver not paying full attention or heeding the warnings or not taking into account the foggy conditions when battering on regardless. Liability generally does lie with the driver who snynts somebody from behind, I'd be surprised if anybody else was to blame..