Richard O'Dwyer: I Saw What They Did To Christopher Tappin, And I'm Scared

Posted: 26/03/2012 10:30 Updated: 26/03/2012 12:20

A 23-year-old Briton facing extradition to America on copyright charges has spoken out about his fears in a rare interview, saying he could spend months waiting for trial in a high-security jail.

Student Richard O’Dwyer, who is appealing against being sent to the US, told The Huffington Post UK he was scared he would end up in a maximum-security institution with no bail, and said he didn't deserve to be imprisoned.

“Yes, I am scared, I have seen in the media what they did to Chris Tappin [the 65-year-old British busisnessman recently extradited to the US] and how he has been put straight into jail with no bail,” Richard said.

Tappin is currently in prison in New Mexico, America, waiting for trial over allegations he plotted to sell arms to Iran.

"I have no criminal record and don't think I deserve to be imprisoned for what should be a civil matter if anything. In the UK if I was charged with any offence I would not be put in jail for such a matter," O'Dwyer said, via email.

"I am trying to stay positive and most importantly I want to complete my university degree."

Richard’s mother Julia, who is appealing after Home Secretary Theresa May signed his extradition order this month, said she was in a “state of panic” when she heard her son could be put on trial in the states.

The mother-of-two has become an “accidental campaigner” against the controversial UK-US extradition treaty since Richard faced extradition to America over claims his website TVShack.net linked to pirated material.

“You’re not fighting any crime here, you’re fighting the law, the extradition law. You don’t get a chance to fight the allegation,” she told The Huffington Post UK.

However Julia - who still does her son’s washing when he returns from university in Sheffield to report for bail - is not angry at Richard: “I’m angry at the government.

"The police are just doing their job, they were just told to do that when it all came from America. I’m not at all angry at Richard, I’m even less angry than I might have been [if he had not been facing extradition] because I am more angry at the government.

“Maybe we’re closer together, a little bit. He doesn’t want to bother about it, you see, much. It’s just a major inconvenience to him,” she said.

“I see him every week. I usually bring his laundry back, I usually do it on the day he goes to bail so I can give him a lift for that. Sometimes he comes home for the weekend anyway. He has to report to a police station every week, whenever I see him I will take away his laundry and next time I’ll see him I will take a bit back. That’s what you do when your kids are at uni, you know.”


Richard O'Dwyer with his mother, Julia


O’Dwyer has received support from the families of two other British men facing extradition, Tappin and computer hacker Gary McKinnon.

Julia is now calling for action on the “flawed” legislation, rather than more reform.

“Our government has failed to make a difference to a law that was pushed through the backdoor with no parliamentary scrutiny. Now we’re living with the consequences.

The government has sold him down the river. They’re doing it to other people. This law was put in place by the Labour government in the Queen’s prerogative with no parliamentary scrutiny. This government has promised to look at it and amend it before they came into power and they have done nothing about it except talk about it.”

Timeline - The Richard O’Dwyer case

November 2010 - Richard is arrested over his website. His laptop is taken and he is bailed to return to a police station in London in six months.

May 2011 - O’Dwyer returns for bail and is informed the US want to extradite him on two charges which each carry a maximum five years in jail, conspiracy to commit copyright infringement and criminal infringement of copyrigh.

January 2012 - A judge rules he can be extradited

March 2012 - Home Secretary Theresa May signs the extradition order. Just under two weeks later, his family launch a fresh appeal.

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doraemonpepsi
06:00 PM on 03/28/2012
brazen America!
01:19 PM on 03/28/2012
At first I thought this case was pretty simple, he seemed guilty enough. But then I read the incredibly relevant fact that his mommy still does his laundry when he’s home from university. Admittedly, I was unaware of this salient fact when I rashly passed judgment on him. Really makes you think...
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redsoxpagan
03:37 AM on 03/28/2012
Wow, a possible ten years for COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT! More than ANYONE on Wall Street for nearly destroying the economy and the destroying the lives of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Americans.
Glad to see the administration has its priorities in order!
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Marcus047
given up on HP
12:48 AM on 03/28/2012
It is dangerous for foreigners to be extradited to the US. Americans and america's legal system does not treat foreigners as innocent until proven guilty and it doesn't treat them equally to their own citizens. Just look at how many Canadians and others can't go to the US at all, because they run or work for companies that do business with Cuba, and therefore violate Helms-Burton. They face immediate imprisonment and then trial, and the deck is stacked against them, because they are guilty of a manufactured crime that is not a crime anywhere else in the world. Foolish is the country that has an extradiction treaty with the US, they're jeopardizing their own citizens and sovereignty.
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sbrannon
thinker, photojournalist, humanitarian
11:05 PM on 03/27/2012
What kind of copyright? Common, dont we have better things to do than to pick on a college kid?
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ideaville
I have sexdaily, I mean dyslexia, Danm!
08:52 AM on 03/28/2012
Every now and then the US has to remind us that it rules the World.
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10:12 PM on 03/27/2012
It is strange that a country that is so concerned with losing its sovereignty to the European Union can just throw that same sovereignty away when it comes to the US.
08:32 PM on 03/27/2012
what is more serious, the united states' violation of international law in invading and overthrowing foreign countries or this? ill go along with this prosecution when they start trying american politicians for their war crimes in the hague
08:29 PM on 03/27/2012
yet another case in a thuggish united states trying to impose its laws on the entire world for the profit of its corporations
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sbrannon
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11:06 PM on 03/27/2012
Want to fan, but cant on the ipad app.
08:04 PM on 03/27/2012
Britain's willingness to honor its extradition treaties should help to stifle others like this idiot who may be tempted to violate the laws of other states.

I would not be surprised if Julian Assange's boxers are somewhat more soiled now that previously.
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Marcus047
given up on HP
12:50 AM on 03/28/2012
the laws of other states cannot be enforced outside of those states, nor should they be.

In Singapore it's a crime to possess or chew gum. Should they be allowed to enforce that law on people outside of Singapore?
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dogpaddle47
Cui Bono
02:51 PM on 03/28/2012
Let's not babble too much about honor. Assange, this kid and others are the victims of an attempt by the US to extend its control to the entire world. Once, extradition was based on equalized crime and punishment, if it isn't a crime in our country and/or penalties aren't m/l equal, no extradition.
The US rammed this new set of rules down the throats of a number of countries. Without that, extradition for Assange, O'Dwyer and others would never be considered.
07:57 PM on 03/27/2012
This guy's parania is built on smoke and mirrrors. Nobody arrested for copyright infringement is denied bail. it might be high, and they'd take his passport and put lots of conditions on him, but if he can post bail he won' stay in prison pending trial. Copyright infringement is hardly analogous to weapons trafficking charges.

As they say in the USA and, I believe, in Britain: "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime."
08:30 PM on 03/27/2012
how about not imposing american laws on foreign nationals' activities outside the us in the first place?
09:11 PM on 03/27/2012
Problem = Those activities have serious and real economic impacts within the USA -- and under US law that's enough to impose jurisdiction.

I have an e ven better idea. How about if Brits stop stealing American intellectual property?
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Wheelo
A man a plan a canal Panama
10:31 PM on 03/27/2012
Well said. Next he'll compare himself to the Rosenbergs.

I won't deny copyright laws protect "corporate" profits, but they also protect the artists who created that content. Many, no doubt, would have no qualms taking the food out of the mouth of a millionaire corporate executive, but are you equally willing to take the food out of the mouth of a struggling artist?
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OH72
01:40 PM on 03/31/2012
There was a time when artists were happy to produce their work for either a set sum per work or a fixed salary by a sponsor. And it's likely such a time will come again. In any case, copyright laws, whatever they may be, are valid within a specific jurisdiction. If you copy the work of an artist in a country where copyright expires at death plus 50 years, it doesn't become a crime just because in another country, it expires at death plus 70. And in the case we're talking about here, the accused didn't actually copy anything at all.
Sean Porter
I support the right to arm bears.
06:10 PM on 03/27/2012
The UK better stand up for her citizens, because nobody else will do it for her. Let Richard stay in the UK.
07:58 PM on 03/27/2012
Why?
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ideaville
I have sexdaily, I mean dyslexia, Danm!
09:05 AM on 03/28/2012
Because he's British and he hasn't broken any British law.
The appropriate action is to let him off with a caution for a first offence.
Do you not see the irony of being able to shoot someone for being "suspicious" in a wealthy area, but not being able to download a TV show?
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ideaville
I have sexdaily, I mean dyslexia, Danm!
04:16 PM on 03/27/2012
The majority of copyrighted material piracy comes from Russia and Asia, many places where they wouldn't be able to afford a geniune copy of windows or the latest DVD, no government is ever going to ask the Russian or Chinese governments to hand over huge numbers of citizens involved in piracy because there is no money at stake.
Richard O'Dwyer made money in advertising revenue and it's not good for him to make a living when that money could have gone to the billionaires in Hollywood.
07:58 PM on 03/27/2012
There's also no USA extraditon treaty with Russia and China.
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DrObvious
No more business as usual
12:02 AM on 03/28/2012
depends, really, on whether the advertising was tied to material he held legal rights to offer.

doesn't sound like that's the case.    

don't assume the cash goes to Hollywood billionaires instead.    that's really nonsense.

when it is ok to steal someone else's work?    when is it not ok?     seems this guy went with the "not ok" form of theft, and property owners who's work was stolen want justice.

That's a very British (and American) concept.
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ideaville
I have sexdaily, I mean dyslexia, Danm!
08:49 AM on 03/28/2012
The whole point is that O'Dwyer has not stolen anything, he pointed to where people can access material in the same way yahoo and google do, just more specific. It is not illegal in the UK.
For the record no one's work is being "stolen". Theft is when an item is removed from it's owner, not the case with copyright infringement.
We have been unable to extradite terrorists for the last ten years because of fears of evidence being obtained by torture, but suddenly it's OK to send one of our students to a foreign regime that uses torture and detention without trial?
The US is bullying us on this one and we should stand up for ourselves.
It's a shame he hasn't just shot a black kid, that, he could have got away with!
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ideaville
I have sexdaily, I mean dyslexia, Danm!
03:44 PM on 03/27/2012
It's about time we looked after our citizens the way the Americans look after theirs.
We should hand over Richard O'Dwyer when the soldier that shot 16 Afghans goes back to face an Afghan trial.
05:53 PM on 03/27/2012
As an American, I wish more countries would stand up to mine. Why? Because maybe we would begin to act more like citizens of the world instead of the empire.
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ideaville
I have sexdaily, I mean dyslexia, Danm!
06:15 PM on 03/27/2012
I certainly do not hold anything against you as in individual American, but I wish as a Nation America would change. Here in Europe we have a lot to be grateful for, not least of which is the free health care that so many American politicians are so violently opposed to. Obama has seen fit, during his time in office, to dismantle our "special" relationship because of his grievance over British treatment of his family in Kenya during the MauMau uprising ( another case of one man's terrorist being another's freedom fighter), along with the insult of returning the Churchill bust to the British embassy and myriad critisms of our decisions as a sovereign state, we are starting to see America less as a cousin and more as a school bully. Obama's interference in the BP fiasco and the complete disregard for the Haliburton involvement
has cost British (and American) pensions dearly. We are waiting to see if an incompetent President will get a second term or whether a right wing maniac will take the reigns. Everyday we are viewing America less as a partner and more as potential occupier. With an upcoming conflict in the Falklands looming, we are left very uncertain of your friendship.
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Boduognat
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07:04 PM on 03/28/2012
Most empires don't explode, they implode or erode.

Someone famous once argued that the USA was the only nation in the world to evolve from Barbarism to Decadence without an intervening period of Civilization in the middle.

We've decided to sit back and watch the (debt) clock.
08:00 PM on 03/27/2012
Americans are hardly reluctant to extradite US citizens to other countries for trial.

Example = Bruce Beresford-Redman, the TV producer extradited last month to Mexico for trial on charges of murdering his wife there.
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02:18 PM on 03/27/2012
So we'll take a stand against a British kid whose website linked copyrighted material for streaming...but we leave the Chinese to break international patent law and pretty much openly pirate anything they can get their hands on from western culture...hmm

We're such hypocrites. The biggest problem I have with all of this, is that corporations do this to themselves. If they would keep up with technology and make their content available for a reasonable price and quit screwing around with the stupid distribution infighting, people would be less likely to break these laws. There will always be some degree of piracy, but this is just ridiculous...
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ebanks84
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01:06 PM on 03/27/2012
Oh gee, another mamby pamby crying the blues. Stand up and be a man kid.
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01:08 PM on 03/27/2012
First time I "unfanned" anyone.
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ebanks84
Grandma knows best!
05:21 PM on 03/27/2012
Your choice. No problem. I do not comment based on fan approval by the way.