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Why Ukip Will Never Be Britain's Third Party

Posted: 21/12/2012 10:35

2012 has been a great year for Ukip; they've secured their best ever local election results, best ever by-election results and caused a whole new headache for the political establishment. Nigel Farage has been a regular guest and panellist on almost every mainstream political programme and has cemented his status as one of Britain's best known voices. Mainstream commentators and editorials have spent a lot of time (and ink) debating the reasons for Ukip's growth, with the main headlines screaming that following the Rotherham by-election they're on the verge of becoming Britain's third party.

While the recent by-election results have been impressive they also need to be seen in context. By elections are a time for protest, and in Rotherham Ukip came second with 21% of the vote, but the real story of the night was the turnout, which was a dismal 34%. When contextualising the vote it should also be remembered that the reason for the by-election was because of the extortionate expense-fiddling antics of the outgoing Labour MP, as well as the very particular timings of the local Ukip adoption scandal. Are we really to believe that all of Ukip's new voters are going to stay with them come 2015?

There is definitely, and often justifiably, a widespread sense of anger and disillusionment with Britain's political class, and Ukip's polling is a short term symptom of that. This is backed up by research from YouGov, who found that the surge in support for Ukip coincided with George Osborne's widely derided budget. However, in some ways the party is ill equipped for the new political limelight. David Cameron's charge that Ukip are "fruit cakes and loonies and closet racists" is remembered because there's an element of truth to it. The recent expulsion of Kent council candidate Geoffrey Clarke over his comments on people with downs syndrome show that there are still serious issues with candidate selection. It's a familiar problem and can also be seen in the outdated homophobic attitudes of their recent candidates for Croydon North and Oxford council. This is not to say all Ukip members and supporters are homophobic, but rather that they've either got issues with their vetting process or a poor base to choose from.

However, the main reasons they will never become Britain's third party are because of geography and the voting system. Geographically speaking, Ukip are a very limited party, there are huge chunks of the country where they have never kept a deposit let alone threatened an MP. I grew up in Scotland, where Ukip have never made a dent, and now I live in London, where Ukip has no representation. If we throw the Welsh Assembly and most of the big city councils into the picture and you can see a party that is too stretched and thin on the ground to mount a serious national campaign. There have definitely been local council success stories, but they're a long way off from making the necessary impact to replace the Liberal Democrats.

But then we come to Europe. Ukip's European success can't be dismissed lightly, but there's no reason to believe it can be repeated in a general election. In the 2009 European Elections they did extremely well, averaging about 15% across the country, but in 2010 they felt the impact of an increased turnout, bigger money and an election narrative that wasn't fixated on Europe and they were reduced to a mere 3.1%. This April, Ukip were polling at 9%, ahead of the Liberal Democrats, but ended up only winning a handful of seats and failing to reach the 5% requirement for the London Assembly. This suggests that Ukip's support is softer than that of the three main parties and more likely to fall away on election day. This point is particularly evident in their most recent polling. Opinium research put Ukip on 14% while YouGov put them on 8%, this may seem like a small difference but it's a change of 43%.

The reality is that much of this is not Ukip's fault. They neither have the budget, media coverage nor national base of the three main parties. They're also victims of the first past the post system, which ensures that there isn't a single seat anywhere in the country that they can expect to win. The polling suggests that the Liberal Democrats will suffer badly and that after the next general election Britain will recede back to adversarial two-party politics with little room for minority voices. Ukip will definitely play a role in the next election, with some analysts suggesting that it was Ukip who cost the Tories a majority in 2010. Can they do the same again in 2015? They will almost certainly be hot on the heels of a strong showing in 2014's European elections, and should they succeed in pressurising Cameron into announcing the in-or-out referendum that leading Tories and much of the wider public are calling for then they may have done something even more important than coming in third place.

 

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2012 has been a great year for Ukip; they've secured their best ever local election results, best ever by-election results and caused a whole new headache for the political establishment. Nigel Farage...
2012 has been a great year for Ukip; they've secured their best ever local election results, best ever by-election results and caused a whole new headache for the political establishment. Nigel Farage...
 
 
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10:52 AM on 01/04/2013
Geography has nothing to do with it. This is the 21st Century, media and the internet are more than capable of spreading the word into those pockets of the country which are currently not represented. Even the Scottish Islanders access the internet. Anyone who reads a newspaper or goes online will see more than enough information regarding UKIP or any other party. Since UKIP is the hot topic they will have plenty of coverage. I became more focused because my personal frustration is with immigration so it wasnt difficult to find information that gained my interest especially as UKIP are the only party talking any sense regarding this matter. It dosent matter where you live necessarily, if you want to see something done about certain personal political frustrations you can find an anser easy enough on the internet.
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Andrew Smith
01:39 PM on 01/04/2013
Thanks for the comment Paul. I think you're right that the internet has certainly been a valuable tool for UKIP and that will only become more-so, especially as they seem to have a decent grasp on social media and have a relatively good website. I think the geography issue is mainly to do with the electoral system; UKIP have a lot of supporters across some broad regions of the country, but are unlikely to have enough in concentrated constituencies to get enough votes to enter Westminster. I may be wrong, but I anticipate a large number of their supporters holding their noses and voting Tory when voting day comes.
02:18 PM on 01/04/2013
Well if they do hold their noses then they are fools I'm afraid. I do believe you will find more people than you think sticking to their guns and going with their ideals this time around because I believe we have reached critical mass point and the mood would seem to reflect that. I think the media sense this too which is why we could be seeing a real transformation of the landscape politically speaking. The UK is near breaking point, the immigration issue which is seemingly out of control and the timing of this with the current state of the economy is focusing people in a way that we havent seen in our countries history in living memory. I used to vote Tory but will definately be giving UKIP my support going forward and from I've heard, seen and read there are many who are ready to take that leap of faith also.
06:10 PM on 01/03/2013
You don't really believe it yourself.
UKIP have NOT had equal coverage from press ever. A little more recently than normal and look at us!
As for Geofery Clarke and Winston McKenzie they have both made silly remarks about PERSONAL opinions. Do you believe there is no loose cannons in the Li Lab Con?
Remove the blinkers and prepare for common sense straight talking politics. The good people of thus country have had enough of the establishment of which you are obviously a member.
#UKIP
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Andrew Smith
01:33 PM on 01/04/2013
A member of the establishment? I've never been called that before :p

Of course there are loose cannons in the three main parties, but they're not in the process of trying to penetrate an unfair electoral system whereas UKIP is.

UKIP haven't had equal press coverage and I don't recall saying that they have. The article isn't anti-UKIP, I think that most of the comments could equally be made of the Greens. Can you name a single constituency anywhere in the entire of the UK where UKIP could realistically expect to win an MP?

I anticipate they'll get more votes than anyone else at the next European elections and will probably increase their vote share come 2015, but I simply can;t see them winning a single MP under FPTP.
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mgme501
10:45 PM on 12/30/2012
They will become the primary party until the current status quo is overturned.
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Mickey Mouse 1
There are no lies or deceit on a chess board.
12:49 AM on 12/25/2012
With high youth unemployment across Europe, I cannot see much support for EU from them. I guess when the current crop of politicians dies off, EU will die off with them.
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alamb60210
06:46 PM on 12/22/2012
Maybe UKIP will not in the long term become the UK's third party, but their recent electoral success must drive home the message to the three main party leaders of the intense dissatisfaction of the overwhelming majority of Britons with the financial and political incompetence of the EU, and the desire to leave this failing super-state before it finally implodes (as it will do eventually).

Also, it has to be said that Nick Farage is a pleasure to listen to on television, which is very rare indeed for a leader of a mainstream political party in the UK.
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Braintree2
02:11 AM on 12/31/2012
"their recent electoral success must drive home the message to the three main party leaders of the intense dissatisfaction of the overwhelming majority of Britons" 15% does not equate to, "the overwhelming majority of Britons"
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vividrick
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01:37 PM on 12/22/2012
On a geographical basis, I can see the point in this article. However with the Lib Dems on verge of implosion, it does leave the door rather wide open. Not just for UKIP, but Greens especially have a chance to make up ground in the three years until next election. That's if we don't see a break-up of the Coalition before then, which is only mere chance Lib Dems have of hint of credibility rather than sitting contently on their hands for forseeable future.
10:13 AM on 12/22/2012
I doubt UKIP will gain any ground in Northern Ireland either. At least in the foreseeable future. Regardless, they do have some decent minds in their party and they have made ground, I think its' fair to say that they will remain in politics and depending on the next elections and those after it will either die out or grow. What we DO know is that right now the United Kingdom is getting worse, the conditions are deteriorating and regardless of the causes, people want answers. The UKIP is a third party possibility because they aren't giving the same options that have been provided time after time with the traditional parties. So they may surprise us all.
07:33 PM on 12/21/2012
Wasn't there a party at the last General Election who claimed they were now the U.Ks second party after the Tories ?... hmmmm... I wonder what happened to them ? .. and in an article recently involving Farage and Michael Fabricant...... UKIP said that in the run up to the next election they would really come out fighting ..what ? ... Fops pink-spotted hankies at dawn ! !
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05:00 PM on 12/21/2012
I think Andrew Smith is talking out his backside. UKIP are gaining more support by the day.
karen1963yorks
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07:36 PM on 12/21/2012
Yes Alan, Thats why he wrote the "article"
04:45 PM on 12/21/2012
Just a heads up, Gerard Batten is the UKIP MEP for London, suggesting that UKIP do have representation in the capital city
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Andrew Smith
11:06 AM on 12/22/2012
That's a fair point, I should have said the GLA, although to be fair I did say they had an excellent 2009.

One of the key points about the GLA elections is that over time UKIP have lost ground. Their vote more than halfed between 2004 and 2012. I think the reason for this is because the 2004 GLA elections happened on the same day as the European Elections, which suggests UKIP are more than capable of holding their own in the Euro elections (when agenda is focused on Europe) but not others.
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Derek Lantin
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03:58 PM on 12/21/2012
I feel that Andrew Smith may have overlooked the realities of modern day politics in the UK.

Yes, we do indeed have a “first past the post” system; however we now also have a coalition government.

It seems to be UKIP’s policy to target marginal Tory seats at the next election. If successful, this tactic could produce a situation where Tories have to form a coalition with UKIP, in order to cling on to power.

UKIP would then be thrust into a position of considerable power and influence in British politics.

Sincerely, Derek Lantin http://dereklantin.booksabuzz.com
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mrs w waugh
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06:21 PM on 12/21/2012
I will be voting for UKIP, as I am fed up with the predictable three......
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Derek Lantin
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02:00 AM on 12/22/2012
I think a lot of people feel the same way.

I read the UKIP Manifesto at the last election and it had a lot of sensible ideas.

I think they would have to broaden their top team to show that they are not a "one man band"

I think they would have to get the message across that they have a broad range of policies, - not justthe headline grabbing policies that keep the journalists happy.
12:04 AM on 12/30/2012
Me too.
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Andrew Smith
01:09 AM on 12/22/2012
But there isn't a single seat anywhere UKIP could conceivably come close to winning. What seat could they expect to beat the Tories? In 2010, on the back of their most succesful European election to date, they ploughed all of their resources into challenging the Speaker of the House and didn't come close. If it's a marginal Tory seat (persumably with Labour opposition or a sitting Labour MP) then I simply can't see them getting the 15,000 or so votes that are required to win a constituency. I think UKIPs infulence may come from forcing the Tories to pledge a referendum, even if only so that UKIP don't split their votes in the marginals and hand seats to Labour
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Dan Belcher
BNP against the New World Order
08:43 AM on 12/22/2012
And so our country will plunge into despair because of a pseudo democracy, great
09:55 PM on 12/30/2012
Presumably? Did you do any research for the rest of the article?
03:14 PM on 12/21/2012
You could have saved writing a self serving article and summed the title up in four letters - FPTP