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Save Charges of Racism for Genuine Racists

Posted: 12/01/2012 23:00

Racism, by definition, is advocating or teaching the superiority of one race over another. When talking about this we usually bring up the example of Nazi Germany, which made racism a state practice.

But is discussing race or bringing race up when talking about certain issues also racism?

Labour MP Diane Abbott caused a storm of outrage and cries of racism after she used Twitter to comment on the Stephen Lawrence murder trial. In case you don't know, she said "White people love playing divide and rule. We should not play their game."

Now I'm no fan of Ms. Abbott, who I consider a dilettante on some key issues. But it seems to me her words were just an expression of opinion, not a racist rant. And did anyone challenge her view? All we got were condemnations from Tory MPs about it being racist.

Every other week some athlete is accused of making 'racist' remarks. And worse, the UK's anti racism and hate crime laws are now routinely brought into play for alleged crimes that are often petty in nature and may not be racism in the first place.

This results in two main things. It creates a climate of fear in the country where people become afraid to bring race up in any discussion, And second, it cheapens overt racist acts by lumping petty non crimes in with real racist actions such as the Lawrence murder. There's nothing wrong in civil society with laws dealing with race and religion hate crimes. But they should be aimed at overt racists.

The essence of intellectual debate on issues such as racism and race hatred, is having all sides presented and the challenging these views.

America, with all it pretensions of freedom and democracy, has long been an anti-intellectual nation, choosing to maintain and a defend bigoted beliefs as a matter of religious conviction, upbringing or political correctness. Sadly this has now become the case in the UK, with laws, initially designed to protect minorities, being used to keep the population politically correct.

Yet this is nothing new here. Before WW2 British society maintained civility through class and people knowing their place. This, along with the highly civil practice of not speaking negatively about people in public, was an early form of PC.

As the old order broke down following the War and the UK became a multi-cultural society, white-on-minority racism became widespread among the lower class and lesser educated UK population.

However, gradually the Asian and Afro-Caribbean minorities began exhibiting anti white sentiments. And Abbott's tweet illustrating this is the controversy's most important aspect...that negative racial sentiments are a two-way street. This is not saying she is a racist, but it does show how whites are viewed by some members of minority groups.

Much of this sentiment, from whites and minorities, is due to a lack of jobs, especially for young people, people with too much free time on their hands and too little self respect.

The main difference in poverty UK and US style is that in the UK poverty seems to be an equal opportunities condition, entrenched in white and minority society. In America, most grinding poverty is located in black and Latino ghettos, with White areas isolated and insulated from these ghettos. You won't find council high rises in Beverly Hills.

I guess racism today depends on how society or governments define it. Using the standard definition of advocating racial superiority, if stretched, could even apply to Christianity and Islam, two faiths that maintain their superiority over other faiths and people not of their faith.

An example in the news is US presidential hopeful Mitt Romney. For years his main drawback amidst the rank and file of Republican voters is the fact he is a Mormon. No matter how good a leader he might be, the Christian right doesn't consider him a Christian, and thereby not fit to be president.. This is far more serious than Abbott's remark, yet who would accuse religions of being racist. And how many clergy members are arrested as charged with racist offenses?

Still to cry racism every time someone utters a racial view or joke is wrong and only creates more fear, resentment and a limitation on free speech.

There's a big difference between telling one of those "did you hear the story about" jokes and calling for genocide or ethnic cleansing. These may be in bad taste...and culprits should be held accountable, but not as criminals...just twits on Twitter while saving the race hate laws for yobs such as the Lawrence killers.

 
 
 

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11:10 PM on 01/23/2012
Tend to agree with Dan Ehrlich. There is very little serious debate around and concerning racism in the UK. what there gets polarised very quickly without much objective analysis. We have though, thankfully, moved on from where we were - in the UK during the '70s when I got a poster shoved through my door saying ..and I quote 'What did you do during the great wog invasion daddy?'.. I'd have to leave the UK if i got something like this through my door again..
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08:01 AM on 01/15/2012
As a Yank I must say that while Dan Ehrlich has a short-sighted view of the U.S., I must agree with his premise that there is racism and there is political correctness and some in the U.S. and apparently in the U.K. have drifted from anti-racism into P.C. rhetoric with no great advantage. The harm comes when intellectual debate and opinion is stifled. Or as Ehrlich says: "The essence of intellectual debate on issues such as racism and race hatred, is having all sides presented and the challenging these views.". If concern about racism is racism we are all racist.
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02:25 PM on 01/15/2012
Love how you used their term "yank" which I kinda find adorable. When in reality there's nothing Yank about being from Mississippi or Alabama for that matter. Oh, and I totally agree with what you said also.
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danew13
11:11 PM on 01/15/2012
as part of an intellectual debate, explain to me how my view of the US is shortsighted and then maybe I will be able to counter....dan e
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Theatrixnyc
Remember John Lennon:Power To The People!
10:34 PM on 03/07/2012
I guess racism today depends on how society or governments define it. Using the standard definition of advocating racial superiority, if stretched, could even apply to **Christianity and Islam**, two faiths that maintain their superiority over other faiths and people not of their faith.
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That certainly is the Dialogue that some wish to perpetuate, isn't it Mr. Ehrlich?

Sort of leaves the other group out, that's pushing their own force$ of Intimidation onto ALL of us:

Zionists

Talk about your Superiority Complexes, eh?

And before you say it, I'm not talking about Jews, nor am I speaking of Israel.

I'm talking about Radical/Extremist Zionists, that want to subvert the dialogue and hijack populations with propaganda that leaves entire everyone mis-trusting, tired, and defeated, searching for answers, as their lives continue to erode under their own 'created by others' Divisions, that keep them fighting with each other as their Country falls apart, and as they go broke fighting Wars that can't be Won...

Muddling the Dialogue on Purpose, is More Dangerous Than Any Bomb..

Sometimes it even leads to them....take Iraq for example.
05:59 PM on 01/14/2012
I thought everyone was a racist who did not believe that the UK must accept and give jobs to anyone from overseas who reached our ports. Surely, that is a simple fact of life, and every asylum seeker must be given a home from the taxpayer and all must be considered genuine in order for one to quality to being a good solid liberal thinking person.

In short Britain can take the entire population of the globe and one must express this as a mantra whenever the subject of racism comes up.

Any other way of thinking must make one a fascist thug and in addition to the above all must read the Guardian newspaper and worship the BBC's Radio 4 content in additon to being a member of the Fabian society and purchasing the New Statesman at least once a month.
04:39 AM on 01/14/2012
"Racism" has become an incantation used to silence information that some people do not want expressed. It's long ago morphed from describing genuinely hateful and physically dangerous activity -- such as categorical violence against a targeted minority race -- and can now consist of no more than being of one race while expressing an value, opinion or belief someone of another race doesn't like.

The charge of racism is used to silence, intimidate, stigmatize, marginalize, threaten and harm other people. We have imbued it with an almost magical and irrational power that it should not have. It has become the approximate equivalent of being an agnostic in a crowd of intolerant religious believers, or of stating what seems obvious to you in a crowd of fanatics who insist on thinking otherwise. Even the most carefully qualified and thoughtfully expressed view can unleash a storm of indignation, intolerance and pure hatred upon the speaker or writer.

The charge of racism has become a socially approved and dangerous form of intolerance and bigotry itself, a way of expressing hatred and contempt -- and even advocating harm -- for another person. It has become precisely what it claims to oppose -- an abusive tool of blind enmity and prejudice..
09:46 PM on 01/13/2012
All the below comments are excellent, but, is it just me who thinks it always seems to be only white people who are really accused of racism? I don't recall the drunken muslim girls who beat up an innocent white girl whilst calling her a white slag" etc being charged with racism! We all know racist people and they are NOT ALL WHITE! The racist card has become over used and abused, let's get back to common sense regarding this and remember all creeds,colours and peoples have these attitudes.
09:40 PM on 01/13/2012
Good article in the main. Especially agree that Mrs Abbott should be thinking about further measures that may have been taken when she seems to think of herself as whiter that white in her comments. (ho ho). Seriously though, surely we (most of Britain) are above all this sh*t now? No one cares about racism really, it's taken all out of all proportion. What pisses people off is MASS immigration. It doesn't matter if they are Geordies, Scots, Irish, Chinese, Indian or Pakistani etc, it's the rush on an area very quickly that upsets the balance in a community.
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05:13 PM on 01/13/2012
"In America, most grinding poverty is located in black and Latino ghettos" - the majority of Americans living under the breadline are white. You may not get high rises in Beverley Hills but you get plenty of trailer parks in the South and Midwest.
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07:18 PM on 01/13/2012
that's because the vast majority of americans are still white and thereby make up most of the current poverty cases...but their neighborhoods are nothing like many poor Black or Latino areas that look more like the third world than america. according to stats, only about 25 percent of the US African American population is considered middle class.
12:46 PM on 01/13/2012
I just wish people would stop bounding the term Racist, Racism about as reference to persons speaking negatively of a persons cultural, national heritage. There is only one race on this planet we inhabit and that is the Human Race. Continued use of the term Racism will only add fuelto the fire of drawing up false beliefs and understandingsof other heritage.
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Thomas Platt
12:26 PM on 01/13/2012
We seem to have a problem talking about minority issues in this country. Either we pretend that problems don't exist, or we pretend that the problem is entirely solved, and brand anyone who complains a malcontent. There are still problems of discrimination in this country (institutionalised racism/misogyny/homophobia) but any time you raise the issue, the majority (white/male/straight respectively) roll their collective eyes and complain that you're still fighting a war that's been won. It hasn't.
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SonnyBono
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12:15 PM on 01/13/2012
Your comments about Mitt Romney are not on target - Mr. Romney is a Mormon - many Christian sects in the US do not consider the Mormons to be Christian - for example, the Lutheran Church (Missouri Synod) the largest and most conservative of the Lutherans considers Mormons to be a cult rather than a religion - it is not just the Christian right but a broad spectrum of Christian sects that hold this view. It has nothing to do with racism unless you hold the belief that Mormons are a separate race but rather a matter of religious theology and a general annoyance with guys in white short sleeve shirts knocking on your door on Saturdays when you are trying to watch sports on television and give you a copy of the "Book of Mormon".
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danew13
01:55 PM on 01/13/2012
Look, a guy stands for president...is he qualified....not if he's a Mormon according to many of the people you listed...that is tantamount a religious prejuduce. Right?
11:06 AM on 01/13/2012
Diane Abbot isn’t a stranger to racist comments - her twitter comments aren’t the first time she has been derogatory about white people. And try talking to anyone who has worked with her - its an eye-opener! She really isn’t someone who should be defended.
10:34 AM on 01/13/2012
Very interesting artical and I would agree with the general thrust - not all observations on race are necessarily racist. There is a malevolent form of racist McCarthyism brooding in this country today, where any mention of race in anycontext leads to calls for "burning as a witch." That said, I don't agree with your observations on Dianne Abbott - her recent comment makes a derogatory generalisation (unless we are claiming that a love of "divide and rule" is an admirable trait!) about people based solely on race. Her comments weren't challenged because that would be akin to debating with someone who claimed the world was flat - it simply isn't worth the time.
As for Mitt Romney (and any politician) voters are attracated to candidates that share their views and beleifs. It is not religious discrimintaion discard a candidate on the basis that their beleifs are different to yours - it's simply a rejection their values and dare I say, their judement (I wouldn't, for example, vote for anyone who beleived the moon was made of green cheese).
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danew13
12:11 PM on 01/13/2012
Re Abbott...it is worth the time and bother to debate her simply because of who she is an the stink in caused....as for Romney, we are talking about the same people who wouldn't vote for a Liebernan because he was Jewish...America has a long history of racism, sort of pecking order dowm from the Pilgrims.
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Kevin Mcilroy
10:30 AM on 01/13/2012
The problem with Ms Abbott's comment is that she would have come down like a ton of bricks on any white person who had written something similar about blacks so she deserved what she got - and more in my opinion.

IMO there are too many people looking for racism where it doesn't occur - for instance, people using phrases like 'nitty gritty', the meaning of which had been lost in history until someone decided to investigate it and label its use racist.
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Aaron Watkins
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10:20 AM on 01/13/2012
"America, with all it pretensions of freedom and democracy, has long been an anti-intellectual nation, choosing to maintain and a defend bigoted beliefs as a matter of religious conviction, upbringing or political correctness. "

Does the author always bring up irrelevant and meandering thoughts in the middle a sputtering train of thought that he was just able to scribble on a cocktail napkin?