So that's it then. The Iraq War is at an end. The long awaited conclusion as the final US soldiers leave the country, closing the gate behind them with a kick.
That's it. The end. Forget the lies. Forget the war crimes. Forget mistreating and killing defenceless prisoners. Remember the victory instead. Mr Obama needs the big-up before next year's elections.
But, of course, the war isn't over any more than Vietnam came to an end for the poor American vets who count their days ekeing out an existence.
In Iraq the violence continues, albeit intermittently. And there will be no comfort for the families of those who died, or those dreadfully injured in body and mind.
Media attention has, of course, been on the thousands of western soldiers that will never return. As if anyone from outside can truly grasp losing loved ones in a war so damningly dishonest, purposeless, wasteful and evil.
But nowhere is the attention given to the 150,000 Iraqis killed, a number which remains uncertain because nobody from the Alliance counted them. The same for the lack of support for the hundreds of thousands wounded or who will spend the rest of their days suffering from the effects of uranium bullets and other accursed modern war weaponry.
Is the war really at an end when the USA intend to build a gigantic embassy in Iraq with, according to some commentators, up to 13,000 employees, including private sector mercenaries who have shown themselves to be willing to shoot first and ask questions later, in the good old traditions of the Wild West?
Is the war at an end with western dominance eyeing up the loathsome Iran and Syria?
I could write volumes about Iraq, and how it has punctuated my 10 years as an MP.
Plaid Cymru opposed the war from its first jingoistic origins. Later we tried to impeach Tony Blair before realising that the other parties wouldn't scrutinise the behaviour of a man who, incredibly, is now a peace envoy in the middle east.
George Bush's policy appeared so pointless, filled with black humour from the moment that preparations for war in Iraq began following 9/11, on the same grounds as if after Pearl Harbour the US had begun a war with Mexico.
Was it a pointless war? No chance! The purpose was all too clear, confirming imperial power in an important strategic part of the world already cursed with considerable wealth. Woe is Syria. Woe is Iran.
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Good job blair & bush !
For me, a US Marine veteran of of the Vietnam war, the above situation is simply beyond belief. I cannot comprehend how this can happen in the land of the free and the home of the brave. When the US Army veteran's father told me this had happened to his son, we both walked away with tears in our eyes. It has been almost 50 years since I last cried, but this story brought tears to my eyes. All both the father and I could do was hold back the tears.
People who argue against these wars are accused of 'not supporting our troops', but what about supporting our troops by seeing that they and their families get a decent standard of living?
Let's not waste these brave men and women's lives in stupid wars and let's treat them with some dignity when they come back.
The Vietnam war was the first war to be beamed into people's TV's on a daily basis - before that the propaganda machine was paramount, and the public only heard what the government in power wanted them to hear.Unfortunately the amount of "information" available has swung too far the other way - to such a point that the guys who have the shitt...y job of fighting on a day to day basis are now under the microscope - ready for all of those lilly livered liberals to have a pop at them from the comfort of their armchairs.
Just consider this thought - You only enjoy the freedom of your opinion due to the free capitalist state you live in.
Most of Media is controlled by the government which is controlled by the corporate world.
You are only lucky that you were born on the "winning" side. However, considering that your tax money is paying for the wars and your friends are also dying I would not even call it the winning side. We are all being used for the simple purpose to make the rich 1% even more richer. No matter the human cost.
I don't mind admitting I am a capitalist/Republican- whatever tag you want to put on it - You sound pretty much a leftie to me - usually the side taken by those with nothing and envious of those that have it. I don't mind my tax dollars going towards keeping these Islamist extremists in line. As far as Iraq goes and the rest of the Middle East for the most part - Apart from Oil what have these "civilisations" got to offer ? - Without the knowhow of the West the black stuff would still be in the ground. And please don't lecture me on how great their civilisations were 2 or 3 thousand years ago - That was then and this is now.
We will never leave entirely, witness the complex of buildings we built there to house who/what(?).. agents from Black Water?
War is the biggest bussiness!
We wont, how long before we look at Iran? remember America backed Iraq against Iran. Is it the Americans that we should all be wary of???