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Parents Need a Smack, Not Their Children

Posted: 05/02/2012 23:00

The debate over hitting children was reignited last week when David Lammy, the Labour MP for Tottenham, said that the 2004 changes to the law on smacking children were partly to blame for the social disorder during last summer's riots in London. (The Labour changes to the law made it illegal to 'redden the skin'.)

Daily Telegraph columnist, Cristina Odone, wrote a column supporting his view, saying working class parents in particular are too afraid to hit their children in case social services swoops in and takes them away. The fear of hitting kids, she contends, reduces parental authority resulting in a feeling of powerlessness and the creation of badly behaved young adults.

Most people agree with them. An online poll from the Daily Telegraph reveals that 85% of the over 4,400 people surveyed believe, "A light smack is essential for discipline."

Now I'm a tough disciplinarian. I'm not afraid of saying, 'no'. I don't particularly care if my children like me. I care if they respect me. Kids need to be punished when they're bad or deliberately disobey, and regular discipline is needed for children to become moral, well-mannered and properly behaved adults.

The problem I see with the Lammy/Odone argument is that it's sloppy reasoning to say that corporal punishment is the same as discipline, or even a necessary part of discipline.

I'm against hitting children for two reasons. First, I think it's wrong to use force, violence or intimidation against another person, regardless of their age. Then again, I can't say I'm an opponent of war when faced with an immoral enemy; unfortunately sometimes violence is the only answer to stop a malign force so I understand that I may seem inconsistent here.

So maybe my second reason could be more persuasive for its pragmatism: It doesn't work.

Maybe you're thinking, "Rubbish! Of course it works." Everyone knows that when you hit a kid, they usually immediately stop doing what they're doing and are less likely to do it again. Plus, sometimes those little runts deserve it.

But having read the research, I had to change my mind.

Hundreds of academic studies have shown that in the long-run, hitting can damage a child's self-esteem, make them resentful, angry, more aggressive, and violent, and lead to more bad behaviour. It's also not effective because it ultimately undermines a parent's moral authority. Not only that, but if the threat of corporal punishment is the driving force behind a child's willingness to behave, he is less likely to develop an intrinsic sense of morality.

I know I'm in the minority of people who oppose hitting. Most people I know smack their kids. Before I had children, I was never against it. Hitting was very common when I was growing up, and I was personally used to it when I was naughty. I used to think people who objected to it were those (literally) limp-wristed liberal moral weaklings who didn't have the strength to discpline their kids. And some opponents of hitting are. Think of all those parents out there who just won't put their foot down.

Still, I had to reconsider when I read the research and thought about it more.

Maybe most people disagree with me because they have different reasons for punishing their children than I do. Some parents who hit may believe that punishment is about retribution. Others care solely about immediately stopping a specific behaviour and preventing it from happening again. Still others might feel the only way they can establish their authority over a child is to dominate and threaten them with force.

I punish my children because I think it is a necessary part of moral training, and central to creating well-behaved, moral, secure, and happy children. I don't want to humiliate or shame them, undermine their sense of self worth, or ever let them doubt that I love them. I want to teach them. I punish to train and reform. But punishment is just one tool in discipline. Effective discipline also relies on positive reinforcement and love. (A child who is actively praised when they do good is less likely to be motivated to misbehave.)

I've chosen my methods carefully because I also know that if I do anything to lose their trust and respect, like hitting them, I risk my effectiveness to train them. Beyond that, how could I claim to be a successful moral teacher if my children may just be complying with good behaviour because they are afraid of me?

The truth about 'smacking', as Odone seems to admit from her personal experience in her article, is that many parents hit their kids when they feel out of control, lashing out with impulsive anger, and not from a rational, well thought-out approach to discipline. Not only that, but I refuse to believe that most parents who regularly use corporal punishment limit themselves to a 'light smack'. Over time, it tends to escalate.

So you know what Mr Lammy? I can see why you think those looters deserved to be smacked, but I'd advise you to smack their parents instead. They are the ones who failed to discipline their children properly; if anything, I bet they hit their kids regularly, creating adolescents that believe violence and lawlessness are acceptable. Studies of prison populations show that the most violent criminals grew up in violent homes.

Yes, I am in the small minority of respondents in the Telegraph poll who said, "No, violence is never the answer." From research and experience, I think hitting is wrong and unnecessary. There are plenty of other punishments that work.

And to anyone who mocks the idea of 'hugging a hoodie', I do too. By the time they're a hoodie, it's too late. I say, 'Hug her before she becomes a hoodie', and punish her without violence. Parents who aren't prepared to do that should raise their hand and accept they are contributing to our social decay.

Bad parenting is the cause of violent youths, not sparing the rod. Time for parents to step up and take responsibility.

 
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09:36 PM on 02/07/2012
A lady named after the town in West Yorkshire I was born in.
07:42 PM on 02/07/2012
As an ex-foster parents, we were always brought children who were described as 'problematic'
They never were of course, but l am convinced that their experiences often involved problamatic parents.

How does a child articulate such information that they experience but are unable to voice?

We very soon told social workers never to describe any child to us as problematic, but to point out to the parents the problems they were placing on younger more vulnerable shoulders.
Sadly, many years down the line the situation has deteriorated to the present and likely to become even worse in the future.
02:27 PM on 02/07/2012
My sister trains dogs, and one thing she teaches that caught my attention is that to correct misbehaviour it is neccessary to let the dog know immediately that its behaviour is unsatisfactory, saying if you do that again you will be punished is worse than useless. Punishment must equate to the 'crime' to have any correctional effect.

Chastisement as soon as the unsatisfactory behaviour occurs is the only way to reinforce discipline and respect for others, not sometime later. In my case as a child I knew immediately when I has crossed the line and knew that I had all afternoon to reflect on my behaviour until dad got home from work.The punishment was knowing when dad got home he would take the belt off his working trouserd across our backsides.

It drives my spare to hear, mothers especially, telling their little darlings: what did I tell you last time about being naughty? What she told them was that she is a soft mark, a few tears or a thrown tantrum is all that is required to get what you want in life and to hell with what anyone else wants or thinks about it.
01:57 PM on 02/07/2012
One curious effect of the ban on smacking is that nowadays if a child wishes a holiday from school all they have to do is get themselves excluded for bad behaviour. They learn that antisocial behaviour is the shortcut to get what they want for nothing.Cue riots and looting in the streets.

By the time they work out in later life just what they have lost, be it health or education, it is quite probable that they will have spawned another generation who learn early in life that they are owed everything, no-one can touch them if they misbehave, they know all about their 'human rights' and not a sausage about their social responsibilities.
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Ppenguinator
Life's too imprtant to be taken seriously.
08:12 PM on 02/06/2012
To turn an overused argument on its head: "I was never smacked, and I turned out all right".
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ginadeoliveira2008
Seen a shooting star tonight and I thought of you
03:58 PM on 02/06/2012
Oh God, when you used "smack" I thought you meant kissing! Hitting a child is wrong because it's cowardice pure and simple, you're way more powerful than the child. If this reason alone is not enough, you may create a sadistic relationship pattern, how about that?
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Paul Wagland
Resistance is fertile
12:44 PM on 02/06/2012
Very interesting topic. I'm not a parent, so maybe my views are naive, but humans are highly social animals - one way to 'punish' children is to exclude them temporarily from group activities. Much more effective than violence I would have thought. The 'naughty step' seems to be the modern MO.

That said, if you highlight the positive consequences of good behaviour and reduce those of bad behaviour, most kids will quickly realise which side their bread is buttered. As previous posters have pointed out, this takes work from the parents!
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AlanDente
Noses: made to hold glasses
11:19 AM on 02/06/2012
People don't like to accept the well-thought-out arguments against physical punishment because it is much harder, or at least requires more patience, to raise children without it. It's much easier to say 'I'm right, it's for their own good' and take the easy way out.

It's also very telling that many who were beaten (to a greater or lesser extent) in childhood almost always say 'it never did me any harm!'.

Oh, so apparently it's easier to claim violence is good for you than to accept that your parents were lazy and would rather beat you than invest in a loving approach to raising you? Hardly a surprise there, either...
02:13 PM on 02/07/2012
Me and my two brothers and our sister knew if we were bad to expect a smack from our dad when he got home from work. If we got the belt at school and our parents found out we would get the belt from them too.
Scroll on a generation, my cousins kid came home one night with every finger in both hands smashed with a hammer because he didn't know that not everyone in the world was as forgiving as his mother.
My neice coming from a well to do suburb in a detached two car garage home where all she had to do was ask for anything she wanted, has been 'excluded' from every school in the town, has has two kids to two different fathers, one kid taken into care and adopted, cleaned out anything not screwed down at her parents'home until she was old enough for her father to kick her out of the house. Because she knew there wasn't a thing he could do to her bar put her on the naughty step there was no way to control her behaviour.
When she was younger a quick skelp across the back of her legs could have saved a life of misery for everyone concerned, including two fatherless children.
But hey at least no-one violated her 'human rights'?
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AlanDente
Noses: made to hold glasses
03:54 PM on 02/07/2012
(You): 'Me and my two brothers and our sister knew if we were bad to expect a smack from our dad when he got home from work'.

(Me, from earlier): 'It's also very telling that many who were beaten (to a greater or lesser extent) in childhood almost always say 'it never did me any harm!'.

Also, delaying corporal punishment has been shown to be more unfair than enacting it immediately- the dread of future punishment, and the fact that any subsequent good actions are rendered void by previous poor behaviour, is horrible for children and doesn't promote healthy development.

(You) 'my cousins kid came home one night with every finger in both hands smashed with a hammer because he didn't know that not everyone in the world was as forgiving as his mother'.

(Me) That was the reason, was it? So if she'd beat him with a rod when he was younger, nothing bad would happen to him now? Can't beat that logic.

'But hey at least no-one violated her 'human rights''

It's not about human rights, it's about not abusing children. Regardless of whether you think corporal punishment works (studies have shown it does not), just because something avoids something else does not make the initial action automatically correct.

For example: I could cut off both my legs, as then mobsters would never be able to kneecap me. Therefore, cutting off legs is a good thing, and all kids should have it done.
01:13 AM on 02/06/2012
Thank you for the well-thought out post. As a Yank reading this, it never ceases to amaze me that the same culture that produced David Lammey also produced John Bowlby, the icon of Attachment Theory. We Americans are even worse with regard to physical punishment. For a good read on why even "punishment" is questionable as a disciplining approach, read Jean Liedloff's "The Contiuum Concept: In Search of Happiness Lost". Hear-Hear! to the concept of charging parents equally to the perpetrator for crimes committed by their children. Only problem is you would have to charge their parents....their grandparents....their great-great grandparents, etc. Bottom line for any society or culture: If you want to raise children by the sword, be prepared to meet your own death by the sword.
Southern law girl
Researching my viewpoint....
12:42 PM on 02/07/2012
Yes! "...meet your own death by the sword." You are spot on!
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Ryosuke91t
Now you know, and knowing is half the battle..
11:48 PM on 02/05/2012
Brilliant Post.

Check this out.

Robert Fuller : The Politics of Dignity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-RbDKp_MvM