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The Truth About Jamie Oliver's 'Pink Slime'

Posted: 30/01/2012 23:00

Last week, the Daily Mail reported that McDonald's in America has responded to a segment in Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution by removing an ingredient called "finely textured lean beef trimmings" from its burgers.

This luxurious-sounding product is in fact another form of 'reclaimed meat', where meat processors try to get every last bit of meat from an animal's carcass.

In the segment, Oliver shows a group of parents and children a cow and explains the value of each of the different sections of its body. Then, he says that some parts of the animal were previously regarded as being fit for nothing but dog food, basically because there was so much fat and so little meat. However, a company in the US - Beef Products - has found a way of grabbing that meat. First, the leftover parts are spun in a centrifuge to separate the meat from the fat. The result looks - from what I can tell from the clip - a bit like regular mince. Then, to ensure the product is safe to eat, it is treated with ammonium hydroxide.

What Oliver called 'pink slime' is then added to burgers and other meat products. However, no more than 15% of the finished product can be these 'beef trimmings' and they must be labelled. However, he said in outrage, the ammonium hydroxide does not need to be labelled. No one had suggested that this product is uniquely dangerous - it appears to be safe to eat. Unless you were prepared to eat your burgers rare - and I've never seen McDonald's dish up rare beef - then any bugs not killed off by the ammonium hydroxide should be killed off by cooking.

Yet Oliver bigs up the 'yuk factor' in this process, which he freely admits he is pretty much completely ignorant about. So in this clip, he says: "this is how I imagine the process to be..." before demonstrating that he hasn't got a clue. Particularly irritating is his suggestion that the meat is treated with the kind of ammonia you might use for household cleaning and the implication that children are being fed powerful chemicals that might poison them.

In fact, getting every last bit of meat off a carcass is a good thing, given the cost of rearing a cow. The fact that this is done with a centrifuge rather than by a man with a knife only means the process is more efficient now. Butchers and meat processors are proud of the fact that they use everything but the moo. Little or nothing goes to waste - which is a good thing.

Treatment with ammonium hydroxide is a sensible precaution and was declared safe decades ago. Ammonium hydroxide occurs naturally in the body as part of the process of metabolising protein. It is quickly converted into urea in the liver. In large quantities, it would be poisonous, but in small quantities it is harmless. As a report for the US Food and Drug Administration noted in 1974: "Ammonia and the ammonium ion are integral components of normal metabolic processes and play an essential role in the physiology of man.... There is no evidence in the available information on... ammonium hydroxide... that demonstrates, or suggests reasonable grounds to suspect, a hazard to the public when [it is] used at levels that are now current or that might reasonably be expected in the future."

Jamie Oliver thinks this is all bad because it shows a lack of 'respect' for food and consumers. But if using this kind of product can make foods like burgers cheaper and ensure there is as little waste as possible, why not? Foods like burgers and sausages are all about taking less palatable but perfectly nutritious parts of animals and making them palatable.

If Oliver wants to say that burgers should only be made from the 'finest cuts' of an animal, that's a matter of taste - literally. But when he scaremongers about perfectly safe food on national television, that's pretty slimy.

 
Last week, the Daily Mail reported that McDonald's in America has responded to a segment in Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution by removing an ingredient called "finely textured lean beef trimmings" from i...
Last week, the Daily Mail reported that McDonald's in America has responded to a segment in Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution by removing an ingredient called "finely textured lean beef trimmings" from i...
 
 
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paulrandall
20:02 on 15/03/2012
It's gross and disgusting.

Now that I know what it comes from and how it's processed I have lost my appetite for burgers. What is revolting is that previously I didn't know how it was processed and where it came from or what its nutritional value was so I happily ate the junk.

What pisses me off is that they can get away with calling it something appetizing "lean beef trimmings", when it isn't. Pink slime may not be fair either but it's allot closer to what it really is. But then that is the American way.

Thank you Jamie Oliver for the education,
you are the man.

Viva La Revolucion!
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RahSolar
Stupidity is not a crime so you’re free to go
02:28 on 15/03/2012
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OPPDE/rdad/FSISDirectives/7120.1.pdf

This is a list of all the stuff the USDA WILL allow in the foods we consume.
Read it and decide what you want to eat.
I'm eating the grass in my backyard tonight.
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RahSolar
Stupidity is not a crime so you’re free to go
02:25 on 15/03/2012
Does anyone else pick up the fact he is quoting a study done in 1974 on the 'ammonia ion'?
that was over 35 years ago.

Here is a list of items that USDA WILL allow in the foods we consume.
Read it and decide what you want to eat tonight.

http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OPPDE/rdad/FSISDirectives/7120.1.pdf
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SpiralUp
17:44 on 09/03/2012
you can spin this all you want - this is a disgusting practice and not real food. It is sad that in this country we have people poor enough to not be able to be avoid this slime.
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DIEBOLD-WE VOTE SO YOU DONT HAVE TO
18:41 on 05/02/2012
I dont know what its like in The UK, but little by little, here in The US, we have seen essentially a two tier restaurant, and grocery store system develop, as a direct result of things like food & drink that many consider unfit to consume.

Food is once again becoming, once again, something of a "class issue". There is a huge divide on the subject here, that is not generally discussed, our pveople simply "vote with their wallets". The informed, who can afford it, do their grocery shopping at new stores that cater to their wants & needs, and the uniformed, or those who cant afford it, continue to buy what the rest of us consider "unhealthy corporate glop". A recent popular TV show here had a rich girl asking her poor friend if she had any "Poor people chips" left. "Chips, being what I think are called "Crisps" in England. The point being that even potato chips are divided among class/economic lines.

One thing I want to stress; Until Jamie Oliver put that pink slime info out there on American TV, virtually NO AMERICANS knew about it! Why? Because under the bush administration the law passed under the radar, AND by law, the addition of that pink slime stuff need not be disclosed. And as you can imagine, no one selling meat disclosed that!

So, once again, a big thanks to Mr. Oliver.
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DIEBOLD-WE VOTE SO YOU DONT HAVE TO
18:07 on 05/02/2012
Nonsense! I applaud Kennedy for exposing what was only recently allowed into American ground meat.

Thanks to him, enough of us walked away from the product, and the places that served it up to force the big chains to discontinue its use.

I cant believe that the author sees nothing wrong with these practices. The notion that one buys what they think is 100% ground beef/hamburger, and that it is adulterated with 15% of something not fit for human consumption is mind boggling.

I urge Britans to do what we have in the US, and that is to walk away from these products until they are once again fit to eat.

Once again, THANKS, Mr. Kennedy. Keep up the good work.
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DIEBOLD-WE VOTE SO YOU DONT HAVE TO
18:16 on 05/02/2012
Correction: "Mr. Kennedy", should have read "Mr. Oliver". Dont you just hate it when that happens?
23:18 on 04/02/2012
What a stupid article!! Instead of advocating the ingestion of decent well managed food you seem to denigrate the fact a relatively decent chef is trying to get the kids to see past the absolute rubbish of modern food production. Like a lot in today’s society, you push profit before health. Why would you advocate the eating of a chemical laden, mechanically reclaimed rubbish instead of decent food?

You’re welcome to your chemical MRM. I'll stick to decent well managed food thanks.
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Ppenguinator
Life's too imprtant to be taken seriously.
21:49 on 02/02/2012
I don't care if it has ammonium hydroxide in it. I'd rather eat it than most of the things Jamie recommends.
22:46 on 01/02/2012
It does go to show you that even the left has its own facet of ignorami just as misinformed and just as stubbornly willfully ignorant of science as the Tea Party. Reclaiming the waste meat is a better idea considering it reduces waste and is a safe process.
19:21 on 01/02/2012
Granted a centrifuge is a little less horrific than the giant hydraulic press that they dumped the carcasses in and extruded the goo added to meat pies and sausages. We used a centrifuge to spin the oil out of the guts and fishheads for use in cosmetics when I was in Alaska.

But isn't reclaimed meat how bse entered the food chain?
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02:35 on 01/02/2012
Sorry Jamie. What a crockochit. Same style as the guys who sell stuff to an audience on latenight TeeVee. What happened to snout to tail? Why didn't you turn Bossy into steaks? I bet the audience would be more grossedout from that than a pretend process. They don't mix cleaning ammonia, they expose it to ammonia gas accorting to the only things I can find that actually describe the process. Rich celebrity chefs are some of the least intelligent forms of life.
14:12 on 01/02/2012
Snout to tail eating has to be coupled with clean conditions. Something feed lots cannot provide. Most of the pathogens/bacteria that exist in a feed lot do not make it through the slaughterhouse process. Once the skin is removed, the part of the animal that was exposed to the shin deep chemical and parasite ridden waste, has been dumped in a separate room, never to see our plates. The stuff that lives in that waste is toxic to us, but it doesn't make it to our plates because the slaughterhouse removes the skin, then processes the beeves.

Forget organic for a minute and just go to a home farm that raises pastured beef for their own family. They still use antibiotics, and fatten with corn, blah, blah, blah. Their cows, however, aren't standing in their own feces for weeks on end. Sick from a diet of all grain and whatever else is fed to the cows because it's even cheaper than corn. Ranchers who grow their meat can easily eat snout to tail and do so without much worry. Feed lot cattle cannot be used in this manner.

Is Jamie a goof and over the top? Yup. Is he exaggerating to make a point, at times to the detriment of the argument, you bet. Is he right despite the info-mercial antics? Yup.
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18:56 on 01/02/2012
You're correct. Factory style meat has a lot of places where contamination can (and does happen). But there's nothing magic about pastured beef. They still harbor pathogens, but less as far as studies show, and if you're careless they can contaminate the meat. I imagine Farmer Joe occasionally nicks a gut. I've not been a spectator at large sl.au.gh.tering houses so I don't know exactly what goes on, but I suspect a fear of lawsuits if nothing else would make then wash down the hides pretty well so I don't know that it's necessarily proximity to the skin.

What bothers me is the dishonesty. If yu have a valid point, make it without resorting to stuff you make up.

And from an actual safety and human health perspective why is this worse than pastuerizing almonds or gas-flushing cut vegtables? I don't know, and I'll bet Jamie doesn't either.

I suspect most of those people started out horrified that meat comes from an actual cow vs a plastic package.
00:50 on 01/02/2012
Millions of people have grown up thinking that a McDonald's hamburger is what a burger is supposed to taste like. Knowing that your burger is considered safe because it's overcooked isn't much consolation for the poor taste experience either. If food is such poor quality that it has to be treated with chemicals to make it safe to eat society would be better off if it was made into dog food anyway. A hamburger should be made of ground beef, not beef byproducts or meat that has to be separated from fat by using a centrifuge or otherwise reclaimed from the pet food industry.

Overcooked beef isn't fit to eat. A well done hamburger is a sign of societal decline.
00:33 on 01/02/2012
My my. Listen to everyone SCREECHING about "OMG ADDITIVES" here. Umm-does anyone have any concrete evidence of any harm from this? Or is it just the yowling of "pro-organic-nazis" screaming about things with no actual evidence of harm?

I see LOADS of emotionalism in the comments here-and few facts. Remarkable.
18:47 on 31/01/2012
It's much much worse than your article states. This is not just tissue that is too fatty for human consumption. If that were the case, they'd not need to treat it. The reason it needs to be treated is it's the tissue that is closest to the skin, which is the area that is consistently covered by the animals' feces from the feed lot. This tissue has the highest concentrations of e.coli and other nefarious pathogens. Normally, and for the rest of the carcass, the animal is separated as cleanly as possible to avoid contamination. The parts in the "pink slime", were the parts suspected, or down right known to contain, contamination. So they are chemically sterilized with the Ammonium hydroxide. This isn't JUST about chemicals in our food, it's about where that garbage they're calling food is coming from.

As for McDonald's, say what you will about their use of "pink slime", or the use of bone meal in their "meat" patties. They have done wonders for the cleanliness of America's slaughter houses. To be a McDonald's approved supplier, you must implement a series of best practices, and checks and balances to avoid meat contamination, and undue animal suffering.
19:34 on 31/01/2012
The best reason to not eat what McDonald's, and other fast food places call a meat patty, is that they add so much sugar, salt, fat, and chemicals to make it smell the way it does, I believe it's known as "Grill Flavor".

When I make a burger at home, I add salt, and go for a fatty meat many times, but who adds sugar? And for that matter, why is there is sugar on the french fries?! It's because it adds a "unique" flavor, and it makes some come back for more.
18:59 on 11/02/2012
How about if Oliver looks next, and publishes, how our government is using GMO foods to push at us, and in other countries? Read up on the dangers of GMO in youur Veggies, and about cross-contamination, and what it does to babies and children? A little burger--that's kid's play when it comes to Roundup and Agent Orange in your foods.
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spitfiredd
My micro-bio has got it going on.
19:49 on 31/01/2012
I think you suffer from self contradictory logic.
14:05 on 01/02/2012
I know it seems that way sometimes :-) I just don't see anything as all good or all bad. McDonald's really did wonders for cleaning up slaughter houses and kill floors especially. What the slaughterhouses choose to do with the meat afterwards is the problem. McDonald's had a motive in cleaning up the slaughter house biz, and it wasn't better food for us. It was to avoid bad press in case of an e coli outbreak in their 'meat'. SOME of the byproduct of those efforts, cleaner kill rooms, mechanization of the kill process, almost instant brain death for the animals, shielding the kill area from the animals in line, and the mechanical process of hanging the beeves through an assembly line. These things benefit everyone that buys Cafo beef, which is most of the population.

I'm still not going to eat there though :-)
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blacksmithn
Iron, cold iron, is master of them all...
17:46 on 31/01/2012
Frankly, safe or not, I don't care. I don't want to eat it myself nor feed it to my kids. And I'd like to know when they adulterate ground beef with it so I can avoid it. But, if you want to try a big tasty spoonful, help yourself, Mr. Lyons. I'm sure it's delightful.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
22:37 on 31/01/2012
Play along - eat your cow brains. Who doesn't like some lacerated skin too?