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Gay Marriage - An Issue of Conscience

Posted: 26/05/2012 00:00

The man in charge of the land of the free (not Donald Trump) rocked up to ABC News earlier this month and told America gay marriage should be legal. Earlier this week the leader of this great country had a spokesperson issue a statement declaring gay marriage was a government commitment.

This week, Number 10 announced that MPs will be allowed a free vote on gay marriage because like abortion, equal marriage was "an issue of conscience". Why does our government seem to act on sexuality as if it's a lifestyle choice? Nothing says choose me more than social exclusion, risk of losing family, friends, abuse and attacks that even in the UK in 2011 lead to death.

A free vote will mean MPs are able to vote as they wish without scrutiny of their party leader, which has left many on the left worried the bill will not be passed, but it is still thought that the vote will go through. Are we supposed to believe that MPs like home secretary Teresa May who has previously voted against the age of consent (1998) and against adoption rights for homosexuals (2002 but later "changed her mind" on BBC Question Time) will allow us mere homosexuals marriage?

My Mum and Dad have been together for 28 years and are what American immigration shouts across JFK airport "a common law". They have seen their friends meet, marry, break up, make up, divorce and often remarry quicker than they could get through US immigration, and have stood by their decision not to marry but importantly made this decision as a couple. Unlike my folks, I would like to marry my boyfriend but unlike my parents this choice is out of my hands because of my given sexuality.

If I'm being honest I love the idea of gay marriage and not because I am one of them, allowing gays to marry (as opposed to gay marriage) subverts the idea of what a marriage is, what it means and what it can be, not to mention radicalising the gendered roles of a husband and a wife, all of which makes me excited. It also feels about time, when I told my Roman Catholic nan we couldn't marry she was shocked to think I wasn't seen as a good person in the eyes of the law (cue aww).

Peter Thatchell raises and interesting argument on his Twitter asking Cameron if he would put forward a free vote on race equality? No. But this echo's my hypothesis that government think sexuality is a preference.

As attractive as the idea of waking up and asking myself what sexuality do I fancy being today, this isn't the case. What I find more interesting than people in suits pretending they are doing the right thing is the anger my heterosexual friends have towards inequality in marriage, in fact I know more heterosexuals who have posted rants on their Facebook status' than my homosexualist mates - is gay marriage an issue for the gays?

We were thrown civil partnerships back in 2004, a convenient half way house that wouldn't rock the boat too much and of course my community lapped it up. Was I the only queer who thought we were being fobbed off? I'm aware I'm asking more questions than I am answering, but I'm baffled the decision of equal anything is still controversial in 2012.

Will gay marriage be approved? Who knows but I hope the MPs bring their issue of consciousness to the party. The only thing you can guarantee are the front pages of the right wing press printing "First Gay Divorce - Told You It Wouldn't Work!'

 

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The man in charge of the land of the free (not Donald Trump) rocked up to ABC News earlier this month and told America gay marriage should be legal. Earlier this week the leader of this great country ...
The man in charge of the land of the free (not Donald Trump) rocked up to ABC News earlier this month and told America gay marriage should be legal. Earlier this week the leader of this great country ...
 
 
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11:16 PM on 06/03/2012
The Scottish Government is currently analysing responses to its consultation on same-sex marriage, which is frequently referred to in the media by the homophile expression "gay marriage".
Recently, however,politicians at Holyrood/hollyrood have introduced a new expression," equal marriage".
The current definition of marriage is clear and within specific boundaries.
Same-sex marriage, whether desirable or not, is a subject which can be debated.
Equal marriage, on the other hand, is completely undefined and therefore not debatable by the electorate nor anyone else.
I have sought clarification from a number of MSPs, including three of the four Opposition party leaders at Holyrood/hollyrood, without success. Perhaps you can shed light on this completely crucial point.
Is marriage to be made legally available to any pairing or grouping who expresses a wish for it , with no limit to its scope, or left in its current format as the most successful domestic arrangement in the history of humanity.? This is something which should be decided by the electorate as a whole and not by PC ideologists.
Should same-sex marriage be legalised in the UK and/or Scotland, current equality laws would automatically lay religious organisations open to charges of discrimination which will certainly be brought by a number of homosexual pressure groups should they be refused religious marriage.
The fate of faith-based adoption societies following the legalisation of homosexual adoption clearly shows this to be the case, despite the large number of alternative adoption societies available
01:03 PM on 05/27/2012
David ( say anything to get a few more votes ) Cameron, thought he would get the " Homosexual Vote " by pandering to the perverted, however, he did not bargain on losing so many religious votes, now he has done the sums and realises that the " Gay Votes " gained would be outnumbered by the " Religious Votes " lost... It is simple really. If any Party leader had the guts to oppose the " Gay Marriage " they could grab alot of votes, however the thought of being called " homophobic " keeps them quiet... Also is not a " Free Vote " a good thing.. better still put it to the people in a referendum !!!!.. Half a million people signed the petition opposing the plans, doesnt that tell you something ??
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jacksdad41
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11:47 PM on 05/25/2012
I did wonder after reading your post (quickly to add for purposes of clarity I am straight, divorced twice and in total favour of gay folk having the same rights as are granted to every other citizen) why did Obama have to "think very very long and very very hard" about his decision to support gay marriage? If he had to think about it for so long and so hard that says to me he isnt / wasnt 100% in favour of it. Cameron, although making the mistake of not including it in the queens speech, supported it instantly. Your views on Obamas "should I shouldnt I"?
10:09 AM on 05/26/2012
Cameron didn't support gay marriage instantly. Cameron has previously voted against many gay rights initiatives. This includes voting, on more than one occasion, to keep the odious Section 28.

I am somewhat cynical of David Cameron's motives. I half feel like he is trying to get the gay vote now he has angered so many other people but I like to think that the majority of the LGBT community can see through him.
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jacksdad41
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10:30 AM on 05/26/2012
Hmm - Ok @sam - I hear you now and thanks for the reasonable reply (I usually get roasted for offering an opinion on this subject, try as I might to offer support it is seen by many as condescending which it truly is NOT) - Do you not believe that a free vote is the best way? I believe that the results of a free vote are available for scrutiny on conclusion?? At least the LBGTQ community would know how their respective MP's really view their position on equality which in my opinion is a no brainer. I am also a Roman Catholic but do NOT subscribe to the views held by Rome and neither do the "grass root" clerics ie Priest to Monsegniour. The ball busters are firmly ensconced within their Bishops houses and by and large do not reflect the views of the majority of Catholics - Jeez - there must be at least 20 couples I know attend mass who are openly (long term and committed) gay and I have heard not one word of condemnation or hostility of any kind towards them. They are kind, committed (both to each other and the activities within the church) very generous both with time and money. They are the best of people - and that is just what they are to me @Sam - people first and people last. Thanks for your reply and kind regards ;-)
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Thomas Platt
01:13 PM on 05/26/2012
It's not a case of "seeing through him". It should be assumed that all politicians have ulterior motives with everything they introduce. The question is, will they achieve the things that you want?
04:40 PM on 05/26/2012
He wanted the gay money, but worried about the political cost in the red states. He wanted the gay money more. BO did nothing to solve unemployment, but his crowning achievement is he got rid of Don't Ask, Don't Tell.