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No Wonder Christians Feel Discriminated Against in British Society, a Disturbing Trend is now Emerging

Posted: 11/10/11 01:00 BST

Last month a Christian owner of a Café where bible verses were being displayed on television screens was told (quite incorrectly) by police that he was breaking the law.

The fact that British police would consider the displaying of Christian scripture an illegal offence is a concerning indication of the mentality that British society has come to adopt towards all things Christian.

For anyone who follows the British media's reporting of American politics, the continuous attempt to run down certain American politicians on account of their faith rather than engaging with their politics has now become a rather boring familiarity.

Bush and Palin are crazed evangelical fundamentalists we are forever being told, oh yawn, is this kind of cheap and lazy defamation really what we have to make do with for journalism?

Yet what is far more concerning is what is happening to Christians here in our own country. It is only when one steps back and takes an overview of the litany of cases where Christians have been discriminated against for their religious convictions, that it is possible to appreciate what resembles a sustained assault against the Christian communities in Britain.

Whether it is the case of the nurse who was suspended for offering to pray for a patient, the van driver who faced disciplinary action if he refused to remove a palm cross from his dashboard, the couple who were prohibited from fostering because of their Christian beliefs or the supply teacher who was dismissed when she mentioned praying for a child's family. The list goes on and on.

Then there are the truly bizarre cases of town councils choosing not to put up their annual display of Christmas decorations or the BBC dropping the use of the terms BC and AD because of their Christian connotations.

It is as if there is a systematic effort to extrapolate British society from its Christian heritage and the values that have for centuries served as a basis for British culture and identity. Those who have been responsible for these moves have often advocated for them on the grounds of creating a more secular and therefore a supposedly more inclusive and pluralistic society for everyone.

Yet it is hard to escape the fact that it has often been the very same people who have promoted secular values when it has come to driving out Christian aspects of public life, who have simultaneously lent their support for the establishment of a parallel religious legal system in the form of Sharia law courts.

Indeed there seems to be a curious disparity here.

How is it that the media has often lambasted Christian individuals who have found themselves dismissed from work or even in court on account of their views on sexuality and yet concurrent to this we hear so relatively little about those hard-line Islamic preachers who have openly preached hate over issues of gender and homosexuality, issues that the liberal press claims to champion.

At our universities these speakers are often provided with an open platform on the grounds of free speech and freedom of religious expression. Those were the kind of arguments that many in the British media were at pains to stress when discussing the ground zero mosque in Manhattan. And while our media obsessed over supporting the building of one mosque in America, it all but ignored the burning down of countless churches elsewhere in the world, not to mention the massacring of Coptic Christians in their Churches in Egypt or the murder of Iraqi Christians in their places of worship there.

Yet this is symptomatic of a growing double standard. We all remember the crowds who turned out for the protest at the Pope rally last year but where were the demonstrations against the then Mayor Ken Livingstone sponsoring the visit to London by the extremist cleric Yusuf al-Qaradawi?

The reality now seems to be that in Britain, Christians are treated by entirely different standards to that thought appropriate for other religious groups. It is as if Christians and their faith have become fair game. But it should not be left to Christians to campaign on this issue alone.

As much as I am not a Christian, it still seems clear that all of us who value the rights and freedoms afforded by a liberal democracy should ensure that there is fair treatment for Christians in Britain.

More than that, we as a society need to recognise that Christianity has played a major and for the most part extremely positive role, in forming our nation's history and national identity.

Those who cannot bring themselves to understand this will naturally also prove unable to appreciate what it means to actually be British and our society will continue to suffer from the chronic loss of values and any sense of purpose that currently seems to be at the heart of so many of the social challenges that we now face.

 
Last month a Christian owner of a Café where bible verses were being displayed on television screens was told (quite incorrectly) by police that he was breaking the law. The fact that British poli...
Last month a Christian owner of a Café where bible verses were being displayed on television screens was told (quite incorrectly) by police that he was breaking the law. The fact that British poli...
 
 
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uksnapper
02:25 PM on 10/13/2011
When religion becomes a public affair with each flavour stating that they,and only they know the "One true God" and in turn denigrating other beliefs and when that then turns into violence then religion has simply failed.
More than 2700 religions have been mentioned in history,no doubt more will be created.Have any been "The One" ?,not yet it seems, I trust something beneficent turns up soon.
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FrancisKing
Unitarian Christian
10:01 PM on 10/12/2011
"Bush and Palin are crazed evangelical fundamentalists we are forever being told, oh yawn, is this kind of cheap and lazy defamation really what we have to make do with for journalism?"

Sorry, it's just the truth. Jesus said that no-one had the right to take life, even if someone else opined that they could (John 8). Bush et. all disagree, because I guess they think they know better than Jesus. Some Christians, huh?
04:51 PM on 10/12/2011
"Extrapolate" is not another word for "extract." Not even close.
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Jelle NL
Unity in Diversity
04:13 PM on 10/12/2011
Apart from “Calimero” Muslims we now also seem to have a Christian variety. -- Dear friends, don't be afraid. Just keep your religion as private as possible, and all will be fine (It's called Jefferson’s Compromise).
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WESmith
Energy Conservation can save you M-O-N-E-Y!!!!!!!!
12:02 PM on 10/13/2011
Good advice except politicians have kidnapped religion as political rhetoric.
Politicians wouldn't want us to know what they are really up to.
Politicians tell people what "we" believe and their disciples say, "Amen."
It doesn't matter who "we" are or what we "religion" we might believe in.
I don't tell people on HP what I believe. They tell me what I believe.
It is irrelevant to me what they believe.
Back in Jefferson's day, the rhetoric was extraterrestrials vs religion.
Things never change.
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Philip J Sparrow
When your work speaks for itself, keep quiet
11:49 AM on 10/12/2011
This 'disturbing trend' of which you speak is merely the normalization of the legal attitudes towards the religous and non-religious. Employers would take a dim view of workers turning up in football shirts, so why should they allow crosses, turbans, skullcaps etc.? If private institutions and businesses choose to remove all religious symbols from their workplaces it is because they believe (quite reasonably) that their customers have no wish to see them.

The real 'disturbing trend' is the increasing willingness to allow religous schools free reign when it comes to the curriculum. If secular state schools were found to be teaching absurdities on a par with 'intelligent design' they would be thoroughly investigated and reprimanded.
11:19 AM on 10/12/2011
A few facts need pointing out.

The BBC has NOT dropped the terms BC/AD. It has clearly stated on several occasions that it still uses BC and AD as standard terms, but it allows it's program makers the choice of using either BC/AD or the common academic terms BCE/CE.

Tom Wilson is confusing rules and laws for the workplace with rules and laws for private life. An employer has every right to determine how its company is managed, what its employees are allowed to do, and what sort of image they present (provided of course, that they are all treated equally in this respect and comply with all other aspects of the law). Therefore, employees do not have the right to express their own religious opinions while at work if their employer does not wish them to do so, just as they are not allowed to do many other things if their employer does not wish them to do so. This is quite different from what they are allowed to do in their own time, where of course they are allowed to express their religious beliefs. The hard-line Muslims who express hatred of homosexuals, etc, in their own time as their personal opinions are entitled to do so. That has got nothing to do with the examples given of Christians trying to express their religious opinions whilst at work.

There were few if any demonstrations against Yusuf al-Qaradawi because hardly anyone knows who he is!
01:29 AM on 11/29/2011
Did you read the story? The column reports that *police* entered a shopkeeper's store to get him to not display Bible verses and a Christian couple was refused adoption by a bureaucrat because they are Christian. That's government discrimination, not employers choosing to run their workplace in a manner of their choosing.
10:15 AM on 10/12/2011
What nonsense. The BBC has NOT dropped "BC" and "AD". Their guidelines clearly state that BC/AD are 'standard', but that presenters are free to use whichever terms they feel are most appropriate. The van driver refused to remove a cross which he had installed without permission on the dashboard of a vehicle BELONGING TO HIS EMPLOYERS. You really mustn't believe everything you read in the tabloids. Your claim that the secularists who object to Christian influence on our lives and laws are at the same time seeking to promote the influence of other religions (and the introduction of Sharia law) are untrue and shows a lack of understanding of what secularism actually means. "Fair treatment" for Christians should result in them having no more influence over my life (as a non-religious Briton) than any other faith...however, in a country where the Head of State is also the Head of the official church, with Bishops in the House of Lords, Christian leaders campaigning on social and legal issues and the BBC committed to the continuation of (Christian) religious programming, I don't think that that's likely to happen soon.
08:08 AM on 10/12/2011
We need to redress the balance and make it very clear that Islam, Christianity, Judaism and all that are based on fairy tales and are all equally wrong.

The UK is a secular society and all religious groups should be equally spurned and discriminated against.
05:23 PM on 10/12/2011
The UK is NOT a secular society.
06:13 PM on 10/12/2011
You are not British
06:21 PM on 10/12/2011
John, don't be a prat. Secularism is about tolerating all people so long as they keep their beliefs to themselves. Atheists do not need and should not promote discrimination; we only need to promote reason and tolerance to all, EQUALLY. Otherwise you're being as dogmatic as the worst fundies...
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BeeJayCeee
I still loathe Thatcher
07:20 AM on 10/12/2011
Christians are most definitely *NOT* discriminated against in the UK. What some Christians are complaining about is their inability to continue with their usual brand of intolerance toward certain groups without public opprobrium. Society has moved well beyond the bronze age nonsense that Christians, Muslims and Jews cling to.

Take the Catholic church in Scotland: the Scottish government is holding a consultation on allowing same-sex marriage. The lies and vile bigotry that has spewed forth from such figures as the Bishop of Paisley has to be seen to be believed - allowing gay marriage would "shame Scotland in the eyes of the World". The threats toward the elected government of Scotland have swiftly followed - mention of a "chilling effect" on relations between the two and of lobbying their parishioners not to vote for the SNP.

It's this kind of meddling in the secular politics of the country by Christians that leaves a bad taste in the mouth and a hardening of attitudes toward their silly superstitions. Keep your intolerance and hate-speech to yourself or find a different faith.
FrancisKing
Unitarian Christian
09:59 PM on 10/12/2011
Again we have someone attacking the bronze age - an age of civilisation and technological advances such as mathematics, the wheel, and so on. It was also the age of literature, as we can see in the Bible.

This all somewhat detracts from the more serious, and well made, point about religious involvement in secular politics. The country has to be governed for the benefit of all, not just one sect or another.
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iLdoRight
Encouraging The Rightest Rightness
05:37 AM on 10/12/2011
Could it be that there are people in important places who know that there are many scriptures that could be used to show how wrong they are and know that if they don't nip the progression in the bud it will eventually get to the point where they have a tinge of conscience
06:15 PM on 10/12/2011
Could it be scripture is a load of rubbish?
FrancisKing
Unitarian Christian
09:53 PM on 10/12/2011
No.
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iLdoRight
Encouraging The Rightest Rightness
11:03 PM on 10/12/2011
I honestly believe the Bible is the result of Our Creator trying to communicate with His humans. I believe there is much evidence of this contained in the scriptures. I believe this because I have had the whole Bible in recorded audio form since the early 60s and have listened to it all 25-35 times and paid attention to things that seem to give it a "ring of authenticity", for instance, it condemns much of what claims to be Christian as Jesus indicated would be the case, it condemns the ancient Jews as a stiff-necked rebellious people who lost their inheritance, though many present day Jewish seem to say, "We still have a right to what God gave our ancestors!". If you think of most all the things that cause unhappiness in peoples lives, they are condemned in the scriptures. I believe that if anyone can start from an unbiased, neutral mental attitude and listen to it all the way through till they understand what it is actually saying they will come to the same conclusion I have come to and if they want the world (the conduct of it's people) to be better and they have the courage, they will try to promote it's values.
12:57 AM on 10/12/2011
I _am_ a Christian, and I don't recognise the Britain you're talking about. Everyone falls foul of bureaucratic nonsense from time to time — not just Christians. Further, it isn't that Muslims get away with things that Christians wouldn't, it's that the media doesn't report it as much.

It's certainly true that there has been a tide of misinformation equating Christian 'fundamentalism' — a movement in the 1910s based five fundamental doctrines — and Islamic 'fundamentalism', which is a term generally used to describe an extremist-Jihadist stance generally linked to terrorism.

On the other hand, most minority groups have to cope with this kind of misinformation in one way or another. It certainly isn't exclusive to Christians.
01:28 PM on 10/12/2011
Same here. As a Christian I too do not recognise the slightly alarmist tone of this piece, containing as it does a number of inaccurate "tabloid" scare stories, combined with some slightly skewed interpretations of others.
Although I suppose it's still a bit of a novelty to see this sort of article that uses "Christian" rather than the more usual target of "the European Union" - but in the current economic climate, EU-bashing might be considered to be less than sensible?!